Change my mind: NTR

Segnbora

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"Therefore, by seeking out to play NTR games over non NTR games, or even having an affinity to NTR games, the player must be into the cuck fetish."

No.
 

Segnbora

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I "picked it" because I wanted to see hot DAZ or, in your case, Honey Select sex. But please keep telling me that I'm lying.
 
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danteworks

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I "picked it" because I wanted to see hot DAZ or, in your case, Honey Select sex. But please keep telling me that I'm lying.
You picked it out due to art, not because it was ntr, so my point remains. You don't fall into the camp I am addressing and is why I included the BBC example
 
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Segnbora

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You picked it out due to art, not because it was ntr
But I quoted you insisting I felt differently. I don't. I exist as a refutation of your original assertion, and I seriously doubt I'm alone.

I truly don't understand the insistence that once can't consume porn for the porn rather than the subject of the porn.
 

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But I quoted you insisting I felt differently. I don't. I exist as a refutation of your original assertion, and I seriously doubt I'm alone.

I truly don't understand the insistence that once can't consume porn for the porn rather than the subject of the porn.
The quote you quoted was for those that sought out ntr games, and your testimony indicates that you didn't pick the game due to ntr
 
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Segnbora

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No, see, that's how you're wrong. I seek out games with multiple male NPCs because the potential sex scenes are sometimes hotter. That includes NTR and cuckolding games. Do I care about the NTR or the cuckolding? Not in the least. I want the hotter sex scenes. Devs who do have that fetish construct some pretty hot ones.

When I can get the same in non-NTR games I'm just as happy. I maintain my core point: I don't care. This is fiction.
 

danteworks

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No, see, that's how you're wrong. I seek out games with multiple male NPCs because the potential sex scenes are sometimes hotter. That includes NTR and cuckolding games. Do I care about the NTR or the cuckolding? Not in the least. I want the hotter sex scenes. Devs who do have that fetish construct some pretty hot ones.

When I can get the same in non-NTR games I'm just as happy. I maintain my core point: I don't care. This is fiction.
How does a game being ntr make it hotter? You saying the ntr devs have more talent? There seems to be much better tags to go by to tailor your likes than ntr
 
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Dude, you're making it really hard to keep it civil & decent talking with you. If you like to play it dumb and draw some moral values on a fetish while constantly trying to make it rational or like something that could be scientifically explained then that's your choice but then don't act like a brainless dick when someone's not on your side.


Thing is, your whole thread is pointless from start as you don't want to hear other's views. Fuck off.
 

danteworks

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Dude, you're making it really hard to keep it civil & decent talking with you. If you like to play it dumb and draw some moral values on a fetish while constantly trying to make it rational or like something that could be scientifically explained then that's your choice but then don't act like a brainless dick when someone's not on your side.


Thing is, your whole thread is pointless from start as you don't want to hear other's views. Fuck off.
I'm just deducing why people play NTR games. I don't think you've given me a reason. I'm just staying unemotional and looking at it critically. You chose to retaliate by casting aspersions about people who play incest games, and that is also your choice. You could also choose to be impartial and make your point as cleanly as possible.

That is why I chose to use scat - because scat is almost universally viewed distastefully and so I want to form a baseline of what is so clearly out there versus what we are discussing now.
 
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Segnbora

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How does a game being ntr make it hotter? You saying the ntr devs have more talent? There seems to be much better tags to go by to tailor your likes than ntr
A hotter scenario makes a game hotter. I honestly don't care what genre is employed to make that happen. Your insistence that NTR can't be one of them gives your game away. You're still not interested in a dialogue.
 

danteworks

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I agree with a lot of this, as an NTR fan, except the issue of liking games tagged as cheating. Most the time games tagged as cheating are the MC cucking someone else or a female protag cheating which isn't the same as NTR and thus not strictly attractive to people with the fetish.

I also certainly don't desire to see my SO have sex with or be stolen by another man. It is a point of great anxiety if I am honest. However, the way I deal with that anxiety is to embrace NTR and let myself take the role of the powerless partner through these games. Both because of being cheated on in the past and the fear of it happening again. While it certainly isn't the same as women who get into more hardcore sexual fantasies after experiencing sexual assault it is, for me, in the same realm of using the fetish as a coping mechanism.
Sorry to not reply to this, but this is a great answer. I postulate that very few people who enjoy the NTR fetish really want their partners taken from them in real life. NTR games is a safe way to play out that fantasy. There are times when the weak, powerless role is desirable. This is a great thing for people to come to terms with I think. Bravo.
 
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danteworks To my own knowledge/view most people who play NTR aren't into all kinds of NTR nor they have any inner desire to get cucked in real life. Most also do not like pegging, gay or extreme humiliation situations.

The most important aspect people enjoy in NTR is the emotional rollercoster that most vanilla games lets face it... lack. Mainly from the heroine who essentially loves main character to be 'in lust' with the either guy.

For instance one particular reason Marina series is pretty good is that main character gets off by seeing her fuck others (his fetish basically started from extreme jealousy when they were friends and she was dating an other guy) and as the series pregresses she is getting pissed off and tries to humiliate him to almost divorcing him in part 3.

Anyway different strokes for different folks. Cheers mate. Your game is excellent. :)
 

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A hotter scenario makes a game hotter. I honestly don't care what genre is employed to make that happen. Your insistence that NTR can't be one of them gives your game away. You're still not interested in a dialogue.
I'll say for the second or third time that you have misinterpreted me, and that's why I refer you to the BBC example. If I enjoy a game that has BBC by happenstance, I'm going to enjoy the game if it's good regardless of BBC or not. That alone does not make me a BBC fan.

Similarly, you claim that you just care about whether it's hot or not, regardless of whether it's NTR or not. This means that NTR is independent of whether you like it or not.
 
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danteworks

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danteworks To my own knowledge/view most people who play NTR aren't into all kinds of NTR nor they have any inner desire to get cucked in real life. Most also do not like pegging, gay or extreme humiliation situations.

The most important aspect people enjoy in NTR is the emotional rollercoster that most vanilla games lets face it... lack. Mainly from the heroine who essentially loves main character to be either be 'in lust' with the either guy.

For instance one particular reason Marina series is pretty good is that main character gets off by seeing her fuck others (his fetish basically started from extreme jealousy when they were friends and she was dating an other guy) and as the series pregresses she is getting pissed off and tries to humiliate him to almost divorcing him in part 3.

Anyway different strokes for different folks. Cheers mate. Your game is excellent. :)
Thanks for the thought out answer! I have a great deal more respect for NTR used a story telling device than a fetish.
 

Segnbora

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I'll say for the second or third time that you have misinterpreted me
"Therefore, by seeking out to play NTR games over non NTR games, or even having an affinity to NTR games, the player must be into the cuck fetish. And well, that means you take sexual pleasure from having your love interest railed by another man."

That's you. First post.

I don't have a cuckold or NTR fetish. The exact opposite, actually. And yet I enjoy NTR/cuckold games when they're done well. Your choices are now to assert that I'm lying or that I'm lying, since you won't just accept that I reject your premise.

I still don't think you were ever interested in an actual dialogue, and so I'm out. Have a nice thread.
 
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Just make a game with the prettiest gals that daz can offer, grab all the tags you can muster (except for dino-tits or she's one less biznatch to me), and I'll scrape all the sex scenes ntr included except for scat, gay and sissify.