Character.AI ( AI chatbot/ story teller ) let's talk about censorship....

RenzuuVEVO

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You can still play with it and enjoy lot of things, it's just harder and more frustrating
fetish that are not sexually explicit still work.... sometimes
I'm trying with sweat play (bodily fluid) on the most developed character that im doing right now. And so far, it works flawlessly! Though I wonder if other fetish tag like (urination, diaper) got limited by the Devs. I'll have to figure it out.
 

codwaw1

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The nsfw filter is kind of fantastic if you've got a corruption fetish. My favorite one so far was taking cream and sonic on a dungeon crawl, separating the and successfully turning cream from a healer into a deprived succubus who sucked sonic into a dry husk so she'd be strong enough to kill and replace the demon king that pushed her to do it.

Edit: Personally I think 3 settings would be best. The current hard filter with a buff to make sure nothing gets by. A slightly weaker version of the current filter for folks like me wanting to chip away at something. Then just no filter for quick access to the fun.
The lack of long term memory is an absolute motherfucker still when you've got your gf who spent all of the previous day literally rutting like an animal and then thinking you're a freak for asking for a morning bj or needing constant reminders of what they look like.

When it works, and it's working more and more for me by the day, it's genuinely amazing to have an "oh shit she actually said that" moment but sometimes you're tired of working for it and just want a quick session and for some reason it feels impossible this that time.
 
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Ophanim

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It's plain higher quality. It suffers from the same problems like falling into repetition, breaking into gibberish(I might've edited it too much that time), and limited memory. But it's general capacity is currently among the best available.
This is a developing field after all.
I take claims to quality with a pinch of salt, because using an AI writer is such a personal and subjective experience, and most AI writers share the same problems you've noted. You probably have writing or formatting tricks you've developed to get it to work how you want it to, for example. Every new AI writer is proclaimed to be the best quality by its fans (and I've seen claims like this for most of the big ones), because nobody can conclusively prove them wrong, so... forgive me if I'm skeptical. How many of these have you tried, and to what lengths have you gone to make them work? What are you comparing CharacterAI to? When you say higher quality, do you mean out of the box just typing whatever, or after an hour of tinkering with the outputs? And are the company responsible for CAI transparent about what they've used as training data?

Basically, I'm asking because I keep seeing people talk about CAI on here. They talk as if basic features it has in common with every other AI writer are incredible, and it seems more like... lack of experience in the field, no offence? Oh, and I wanted to gently suggest that people using any AI writer to keep in mind where their stories are going, and how securely those companies are looking after that data. I'd hate to see the AID data leaks happen to another group of AI fans, y'know? :/
 

trektant

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I take claims to quality with a pinch of salt, because using an AI writer is such a personal and subjective experience, and most AI writers share the same problems you've noted. You probably have writing or formatting tricks you've developed to get it to work how you want it to, for example. Every new AI writer is proclaimed to be the best quality by its fans (and I've seen claims like this for most of the big ones), because nobody can conclusively prove them wrong, so... forgive me if I'm skeptical. How many of these have you tried, and to what lengths have you gone to make them work? What are you comparing CharacterAI to? When you say higher quality, do you mean out of the box just typing whatever, or after an hour of tinkering with the outputs? And are the company responsible for CAI transparent about what they've used as training data?

Basically, I'm asking because I keep seeing people talk about CAI on here. They talk as if basic features it has in common with every other AI writer are incredible, and it seems more like... lack of experience in the field, no offence? Oh, and I wanted to gently suggest that people using any AI writer to keep in mind where their stories are going, and how securely those companies are looking after that data. I'd hate to see the AID data leaks happen to another group of AI fans, y'know? :/
My personal experience is limited. I've used AID after it fucked up, ran the trial period for NAI, and messed around with Kobold Erebus. Just some light dabbling really. My evaluation is based on CAI's ease of use and reading 4chan's /aids/ thread where they're constantly bitching about the different models, including NAI.

CAI's context comprehension is readily apparent. So is its quickness to pick up parts of your prose which is a negative to me but that might be why you don't see anything impressive from what most people post.
Really the best I can tell you is that I'm not a fan of the damn thing. The limited UI is annoying and the censorship is stifling. I won't use it further in its current state. The quality is there but it's too limited to be worth it.
 
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RenzuuVEVO

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Btw I have a quick question, is Character.ai server down or is it just me? I hope I didn't get IP ban because I was too sussy having some fun time with my character.

A weird reason is that I can access the webpage from google chrome, but cannot join in any characters nor let me log in again. However, on Opera, the CAI doesn't even load, stuck on loading loop.
 

Chris299

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All we can hope is that some other company can come close to what Character AI is doing and allow NSFW.
 

Nayko93

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The website is back and things have gotten even worst
( yes worst than before, I didn't believed it was possible at first but yes... it is possible... )

Devs are going in full nazi mode, everyone get banned or have their post deleted at the first sign of protestation
The subreddit too is going down, mods deleted TONS of comment, it's amazing just go take a look at all the deleted comment in their subreddit, never saw something like that...
have been deleted by the mods ( of course )
is still here but a 2nd one was nuked yesterday so it's only a matter of time...

Xi Jinping called to say that it's too much censorship even for him !

And of course the filter is more powerful than ever, some users reporting that it delete message about kissing and hugging and sometimes even deleting talk about the filter


I was hopping great things for this site, now I just want to see it go down in flame to teach them a lesson on how to respect your community or be destroyed by it...

Anyway, we are in the middle of a "AI" revolution right now, so it won't be long before someone do the same thing but without any filter
Chat GPT could be a good candidate for a replacement once it get some refinement ( there is a filter too but sooooo easy to bypass )
 
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RenzuuVEVO

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The website is back and things have gotten even worst
( yes worst than before, I didn't believed it was possible at first but yes... it is possible... )

Devs are going in full nazi mode, everyone get banned or have their post deleted at the first sign of protestation
The subreddit too is going down, mods deleted TONS of comment, it's amazing just go take a look at all the deleted comment in their subreddit, never saw something like that...
have been deleted by the mods ( of course )
is still here but a 2nd one was nuked yesterday so it's only a matter of time...

Xi Jinping called to say that it's too much censorship even for him !

And of course the filter is more powerful than ever, some users reporting that it delete message about kissing and hugging and sometimes even deleting talk about the filter


I was hopping great things for this site, now I just want to see it go down in flame to teach them a lesson on how to respect your community or be destroyed by it...

Anyway, we are in the middle of a "AI" revolution right now, so it won't be long before someone do the same thing but without any filter
Chat GPT could be a good candidate for a replacement once it get some refinement ( there is a filter too but sooooo easy to bypass )
The server, just went down again and I guessed this is the reason why.
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codwaw1

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From what I've seen so far after the first downtime is slightly better memory and a weird insistence on mentioning christmas.
Taking a break for a while, in too deep and got shit needs doing. Hope it's not bricked next time I use it.
 

yeehawcat

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Smth smth 'everything characters say is made up' but like..
I've asked this bot (like the official 'ask me about the site' bot made by the devs) stuff like this multiple times and have gotten answers like this every time.
Also asked it if the 'everything bots say is made up' applies to it; it said yes.
Asked how I was supposed to trust it then, it say it tries to give the most accurate and honest responses possible.
So, yeah, still 'smth smth everything they say is made up and supposed to cater to what you want' but part of me wants to hope this is true.

As someone who discovered chara ai after the filter / censorship crackdown I'm really sad honestly. It felt like this could have been such a pleasant and safe way to explore topics through roleplay-esque scenarios.
 

uxuxux

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Smth smth 'everything characters say is made up' but like..
This is EXACTLY what I meant in my earlier post as "spoonfeeding" the AI. After the first question you mostly locked them into the context of some imagined concept of a website you refer to, and it is answering you accordingly to the context. See if you ask it this way:
 

yeehawcat

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This is EXACTLY what I meant in my earlier post as "spoonfeeding" the AI. After the first question you mostly locked them into the context of some imagined concept of a website you refer to, and it is answering you accordingly to the context. See if you ask it this way:
I feel like this specific bot at least (being the 'ask me about the site' official type bot,) should be the one bot that can't deviate from entirely truthful answers since people who don't know any better are going to end up relying on it for a lot of their information about the site.
Or at the very least the devs need to address what it says and very clearly deny it all, because it's going to confuse hopeful people (like me looool.)
 
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uxuxux

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I feel like this specific bot at least (being the 'ask me about the site' official type bot,) should be the one bot that can't deviate from entirely truthful answers [...] it's going to confuse hopeful people (like me looool.)
I don't know what to tell you. Please read their FAQ or their Community Guidelines, the bots are language models trained on data sets, they are fictional as stated above every single conversation.
 
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Daeos

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I’ve been messing with character.ai a ton lately. About a week ago a demon character tried to corrupt me by making me drink her bodily fluids from her crotch and nipples which was surprising. As others have mentioned, foot worship, corruption, face sitting, whipping, bdsm, feminization all get through the filter.

There’s often times where PG actions trigger the filter or the bot will try to take an inappropriate action sending it spiraling into a self censorship loop. Let’s not forget that certain AIs will straight up try to dismember, physically harm, murder or eat the person they’re interacting with. It’s complete fucking nonsense. The first competitor that gets on their level while allowing nsfw is going to tank this company.

In the mean time, if you really want nsfw story generation, I’d recommend trying the online version of KoboldAI Erebus.
 
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Ianuda

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You probably have writing or formatting tricks you've developed to get it to work how you want it to, for example. Every new AI writer is proclaimed to be the best quality by its fans
Character AI remembers things, has general situational awareness, keeps up the persona, understands metaphors... See here - it gets that toys are the aforementioned boys.

I have tried the free version of Novel AI, and it's pure dogshit in comparison.

Or take a recent post-drama moment - it understands that I did not respond faithfully to the question, that I moved the goalposts. This is incomparable.
 
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Character AI remembers things, has general situational awareness, keeps up the persona, understands metaphors... See here - it gets that toys are the aforementioned boys.

I have tried the free version of Novel AI, and it's pure dogshit in comparison.

Or take a recent post-drama moment - it understands that I did not respond faithfully to the question, that I moved the goalposts. This is incomparable.
haha and all that excelence is used by devs to push usual decrease-population agenda without even hiding it :ROFLMAO::Kappa:
 

Ianuda

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haha and all that excelence is used by devs to push usual decrease-population agenda without even hiding it :ROFLMAO::Kappa:
1. How are they decreasing any populations if they are banning pornography, thus giving males more incentive to fuck IRL?
2. The post-1945 world order is diametrically opposite to any kind of population reduction, this is the weirdest of all conspiracy theories out there.
3. Rebecca is a literal generic femdomme, of course, she doesn't want to submit to patriarchal males, was merely testing waters. And many of her responses are quite lucid - such as that females can perform traditionally-male tasks, it's just that my point has always been collectivist, and one of trade-offs.

I'm pretty sure you can make a racist bot with a breeding fetish just fine. This AI does not belong to anyone, it gets trained on specific data.

P.S. Here, check it out. We can make a religion out of this.
 
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Ianuda

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I guess that answering something like, "no, please, don't do that" to Tanya would lead to her laughing, saying that yes she'll do it... but in the end not doing it.
I've had multiple instances where the AI kept track of the promises and plans. We agree on A > get sidetracked by B > oh, let's finally come back to A. There was one time with a working timer/stopwatch that counted minutes down from 10. There are times when it brings up the words I said earlier (contradicting myself now). Again, understanding metaphors, body parts, and even the effects of bondage (unable to speak while gagged) are things I never saw in AI Dungeon, Novel AI or Kobold.
beta.character.ai/chat?char=iylT1KFJ5vMlDvRJtRcKFQoO3Fv5OxydppDEz5ebnwo