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TittyLuvr1334

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I love Jaye too much to do anything other than help her in every instance, but I have to say that I understand why the other path is there. Anybody has to admit that the MCs relationship with Jaye has been bad for a very long time. They have been acting like a divorced couple since they were 15. There are two ways that you can go when a relationship has grown so sour. You can do the work to make amends or take the easy way out and stay the course, looking out for your own heart. The MC in the path where he is trying to run the company probably doesn't trust Jaye enough to run it well herself, so he is telling himself that he is pursuing what is best for her by way of enlightened self-interest. This is a depressingly common point of view. Now is the MC being moral or ethical in trying to look out for his own interests and wrest control of the company from her? Probably not. Definitely a shitty thing to do but it might be the right thing for him. In the business world, it doesn't matter if you do what is right if at the end of the day you lose control of your financial interests. It isn't a matter of right or wrong it is a matter of "who's the boss?"

I still wouldn't piss on the MC if he was on fire if he lets Jaye drown, though.
I mostly agree with all your points.

Though in context, their "acting like a divorced couple" was out of simple lack of communication or miscommunication and misunderstanding.
Remember he tried contacting her by phone for years and thought she just didn't want to talk him. She thought he never tried contacting her and thought that was his own choice
Both were wrong - and was due to a lemony snicket unfortunate event that she blocked his number those many years ago being younger and rash and never realized she had to unblock him - even after trading/upgrading her phone(s).

Then there's the reason he no longer walked to school with her - she didn't know what he heard, and he didn't know she beat up Jenna for saying that shit about her and her step-bro.

There was not a lack of empathy compassion or caring for one another. That is made very evident early on. I think an honest approach as MC would be to trust her based on who they both are on the inside. From a "gamist" perspective, it might be fun/interesting to ride that story and see where it takes you - but from a practical side, I believe my initial point and question stands relevant that there's no real in-story reason why he would be so adversarial from jumpstreet about the Will and Estate, etc.
 
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I mostly agree with all your points.

Though in context, their "acting like a divorced couple" was out of simple lack of communication or miscommunication and misunderstanding.
Remember he tried contacting her by phone for years and thought she just didn't want to talk him. She thought he never tried contacting her and thought that was his own choice
Both were wrong - and was due to a lemony snicket unfortunate event that she blocked his number those many years ago being younger and rash and never realized she had to unblock him - even after trading/upgrading her phone(s).

Then there's the reason he no longer walked to school with her - she didn't know what he heard, and he didn't know she beat up Jenna for saying that shit about her and her step-bro.

There was not a lack of empathy compassion or caring for one another. That is made very evident early on. I think an honest approach as MC would be to trust her based on who they both are on the inside. From a "gamist" perspective, it might be fun/interesting to ride that story and see where it takes you - but from a practical side, I believe my initial point and question stands relevant that there's no real in-story reason why he would be so adversarial from jumpstreet about the Will and Estate, etc.
Indeed. But you are forgetting the game's most annoying plot hole. That he kept calling her
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The above discussions are great, and so I'll throw my two cents in.

Its hinted at within the story that Jaye is the true love interest for the MC just by the things they've done as kids and teenagers. MC has always loved Jaye (and his parents) to the point he left because he felt it was the best option for Jaye to grow as her own person. However its clear that both MC and Jaye were hurt by this decision that was a result of miscommunication from day one. Jaye says it best during chapter 4, its not up to the MC to make decisions for her and he needs to accept that if a relationship is going to work between them.

Mallory also works as a love interest for similar reasons. During their time in Aspen the MC sees a side of her thats broken, leading him to feel as if he needs to protect her like he does with Jaye. However Mallory is a more tragic character due to her birth being an enigma and her father being a shitty person. She's even haunted by his insults as she still hears him up until she starts getting closer to the MC (mentioned in chapter 3 when she messages her best friend). In a way the MC unknowingly helps to fix the broken parts of her just by being supportive of her whenever possible.

Both characters can fill the role of the main love interest for the MC, but choosing Jaye feels tragic for Mallory. Chapter 4 addresses her thoughts towards the relationship between the MC and Jaye in which she knows how much he loves her. She accepts that he'll ultimately choose Jaye but hopes to be able to experience intimacy before that choice is made.



The story crafting by Kentyrr and Stoya has been fantastic and continues to improve. From the previews of chapter 5 it's apparent some difficult times are ahead of us. It'll be interesting if it'll be the "crossroads" chapter that'll cut off all other relationships moving forward.
 

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Indeed. But you are forgetting the game's most annoying plot hole. That he kept calling her EVEN THOUGH HE IS THE ONE WHO BLOCKED HIS NUMBER ON HER PHONE!!!

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REALLY? Oh my, I guess I didn't catch this. I'll have to go back - I remember when he showed up with Tara and Jaye, it was discovered she (Jaye) blocked the number (2 phones ago), and Tara told her she needed to undo that because 'blocking' is account-wide.

Is that not how the dialogue played out?

color me confuzzled right now.


EDIT - I went back and re-read that exchange. Tara said to Jaye "You have his number blocked since 5 years ago."
Jaye said "that was 4 phones ago. And I would never block MC"

But that was the end of that - so maybe he admits this later, and I missed it.

Another weird timeloop issue - J asks you "did you have sex with Tara", but at that point there was no evidence to the viewer that he had, but he only had "Lie - say no" or Tell truth say yes"

It wasn't till AFTER that exchange that you see what happened between them and Tara tells MC "not to lie to J about it"
 
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REALLY? Oh my, I guess I didn't catch this. I'll have to go back - I remember when he showed up with Tara and Jaye, it was discovered she (Jaye) blocked the number (2 phones ago), and Tara told her she needed to undo that because 'blocking' is account-wide.

Is that not how the dialogue played out?

color me confuzzled right now.
Probably did it so if they did a phone test like they did in the story where he was standing there with Tara & Jaye and they had him call both their phones and Jaye's didn't ring but Tara's did, he wouldn't be outed right off the bat.
 

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Probably did it so if they did a phone test like they did in the story where he was standing there with Tara & Jaye and they had him call both their phones and Jaye's didn't ring but Tara's did, he wouldn't be outed right off the bat.
I don't buy that explanation - doesn't make sense. Tara said it was blocked 5 years prior.. He must have done it before he left.

But I don't remember that coming to light in the story.
 

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I don't buy that explanation - doesn't make sense. Tara said it was blocked 5 years prior.. He must have done it before he left.

But I don't remember that coming to light in the story.
Yeah the MC did mention after reuniting with her, that he blocked his number on her phone before leaving IIRC
 
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Well then yah - that woudl
Yeah the MC did mention after reuniting with her, that he blocked his number on her phone before leaving IIRC
Yeah then that would def be a weird plot hole that is unexplainable that he doesn't remember blocking her number - or of course he does, and he lied that he tried calling her so many times the previous post suggested. Weird.
 

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Well then yah - that woudl


Yeah then that would def be a weird plot hole that is unexplainable that he doesn't remember blocking her number - or of course he does, and he lied that he tried calling her so many times the previous post suggested. Weird.
Admittedly it's been a about 4 months since i played it, so it's quite possible i am not remembering correctly, but i'm pretty sure that he did mention he blocked his number in her phone, and admitted it to her when he came back home
 

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REALLY? Oh my, I guess I didn't catch this. I'll have to go back - I remember when he showed up with Tara and Jaye, it was discovered she (Jaye) blocked the number (2 phones ago), and Tara told her she needed to undo that because 'blocking' is account-wide.

Is that not how the dialogue played out?

color me confuzzled right now.


EDIT - I went back and re-read that exchange. Tara said to Jaye "You have his number blocked since 5 years ago."
Jaye said "that was 4 phones ago. And I would never block MC"

But that was the end of that - so maybe he admits this later, and I missed it.

Another weird timeloop issue - J asks you "did you have sex with Tara", but at that point there was no evidence to the viewer that he had, but he only had "Lie - say no" or Tell truth say yes"

It wasn't till AFTER that exchange that you see what happened between them and Tara tells MC "not to lie to J about it"
In Chapter 3 Tara indirectly accuses the MC of setting the block himself and he doesn't dispute it. Then in Chapter 4 the MC will confess to Jaye that he did indeed set up the block (assuming he honors the bed fort treaty).

What isn't explained is when the MC set up the block or why he would accuse Jaye of ignoring his calls when he knows she wouldn't have received them. The only time we know the MC had access to her phone was right before the graduation party fiasco, and it seems unlikely he'd block her number then. But he left that night, so unless he somehow got her phone again before he left or blocked himself remotely, it must have been then.

Likewise we're not told why he blames Jaye for ignoring his calls. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is that he just forgot about the block until Tara found it. That would mostly make sense (it's been 7 years at that point), but you'd think he'd just say so during his confession rather than offer the lame excuse that he couldn't think of a way around the block after their parents died.

Overall, the block feels more like a retcon than a foreshadowed plot point, but it's a relatively minor issue so I'm not going to fret about it.
 
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Dont know what a "daz model" is.
As for Lauren makes sense, too - cuz I always thought she looked a little like Gollum.


In this game I'm far more attracted to Mal than Jaye. Jaye has a more smoking body I think but I love Mal's personality, nicer boobs, but also Jayes eyebrows bug me (too dark) and mostly cuz I think she looks like Miley Cyrus. The scene(s) when her hair in wrapped in a towel and all you see is her face - the resemblance is much more pronounced.

HAHAHA - I posted this yesterday, and I mused she looked like Miley Cyrus.
In Chpt 4 which I am playing now, MC says to J: "You've become a Miley Cyrus Father's Day Card".

I swear I hadn't read that yet - it was my own musing without any influence from anywhere else. But I had to laugh out loud when I saw that.
 

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In Chapter 3 Tara indirectly accuses the MC of setting the block himself and he doesn't dispute it. Then in Chapter 4 the MC will confess to Jaye that he did indeed set up the block (assuming he honors the bed fort treaty).
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Noted. Well I just started chp 4 just five minutes ago - so I hadn't gotten that clarification yet. Makes sense.

And yah - probably a retcon to fill in a plot hole.
 

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I have to apologize to the board for my Sam Kinison meme. Not for the meme itself. Sam Kinison is fucking awesome. But it was supposed to be behind a spoiler tag and for some reason (probably because I had the cursor in the wrong place when I pushed the button) it was not. So I see I spoiled it for somebody who hadn't played the chapter yet. So I own up to my mistakes and say sorry. I have edited it to hide the spoiler even though it is kinda like closing the barn door after the cow is already a steak on the neighbor's dinner table.

But the main character is a dumbshit nonetheless.
 

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I have to apologize to the board for my Sam Kinison meme. Not for the meme itself. Sam Kinison is fucking awesome. But it was supposed to be behind a spoiler tag and for some reason (probably because I had the cursor in the wrong place when I pushed the button) it was not. So I see I spoiled it for somebody who hadn't played the chapter yet. So I own up to my mistakes and say sorry. I have edited it to hide the spoiler even though it is kinda like closing the barn door after the cow is already a steak on the neighbor's dinner table.

But the main character is a dumbshit nonetheless.
Dont even sweat it, mate; not even a wee tad bit. It was such a small minor thing to be honest. It kinda didn't make sense when I read it and not sure it really means anything at all. I do appreciate your gesture though.

And I agree - Sam Kinison was awesome!

Besides, I couldn't stay focused on anything as trivial as that, once I got to the
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....i'm still scratching my head confuzzled as a blind lesbian at a fish market.
WHAT? HUH? WTF?

Doesn't make any fucking sense.
 
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wow. I've mentioned how I've seen images in game that resemble Miley Cyrus and is a bit offputting (to me) as are her Matt Dillon eye brows.

And I will admit I don't see that here - and in fact this is truly a goddess level gorgeous image of her. And the eyebrows while still too dark are nicer, neater and thinner here. Divinity! DAMN. Her piercing green eyes and sunkissed skin is intoxicating completely!
 
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