NebulousShooter

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Memes aside, Its not the sharing, its the feelings out of the blue, they really should have started with just a threesome, then build into a throuple ending/epilogue. Keep the feelings part out of it, or start hinting at them way sooner, like 2 chapters ago.

Mallory and Peanut always gave me sister vibes, not f95zone sisters, now they are suddenly deeply in love and always wanted to be with each other, where were the hints? :WaitWhat:
Amanda' lust for mc was more often then not played for laughs and no romantic feelings were ever even hinted at and MC doesn't care about Amanda at all until his pants are around his ankles, in front of her. It really feels like you skipped 2-3 updates of content on that route.
Imo, its one of the worst throuple setups I've ever seen, not that there are that many worth praising...

Add to that, the cherry on top, the dialogue that makes the MC/Player feel like an asshole for selfishly denying these 2 sweet girls their chance at happiness after their horrible lives and making the solo romance sound like settling for the lesser option. I've been playing this since 0.1 and this was the first time that I completely disagree with Stoya's writing. That entire storyline has been borked and it needs a lot of continuity patching to even halfway work.

Again, I have no problem with a throuple ending, in fact ask ename144 how many times I made fun of him with the inevitability of it, its just the execussion that blows. Finishing the update I kept staring at the 'Mallory is in love both with you and Amanda' ending screen scratching my head. Really?!
 
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I'd also like to tease our next project, tentatively called "Firebreak."
Here's what I can share about it so far:
  • We plan to keep the story in the same universe with some crossover characters from Chasing Sunsets
  • We're looking at a different approach to episodic releases which will hopefully makes each update more self-contained
  • It will feature a male MC
  • While the game will be story-driven, there will be more potential LIs, including some who were not LIs in Chasing Sunsets
Hand me downs the game. Or is it called Firebreak the game, because you need one to cure the fire in your loins from the whole STD's?
 
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In a game full of side chicks and only two love interests, it is on you if you chose one of the "other" girls instead of Jaye or Mallory. There is not enough backstory to know what Tara is even like. All we know is that she served the purpose of being a surrogate for Jaye and the MC. Sure, she is gorgeous despite the uber lesbian hair. But that is all we know. Her story has yet to be told.

I never got the feeling that the story forced the MC between Amanda and Mallory. Amanda is simply experimenting. She related better with an "unknown" online presence than she does with an actual human being. By the end of the chapter, it was still a race between Jaye and Mallory. However, because the devs are so kind, they allowed us to play with a view of other beautiful playthings, like Lisa. That doesn't make Lisa the focal point. She is just a tiny piece of the background, like Tara.
 

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I find it ironic that Jaye and Tara had more ground to work on as a throuple than Mal and Amanda.
There are three (maybe four) very brief scenes with Tara. We get a flashback to when they were little kids, the sex scene with Jaye, the sex scene with the MC, and the scene where she drops Jaye off to meet George and the MC. How many scenes are with Mallory and Amanda? How much character development do we have with those two characters?
 
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There are three (maybe four) very brief scenes with Tara. We get a flashback to when they were little kids, the sex scene with Jaye, the sex scene with the MC, and the scene where she drops Jaye off to meet George and the MC. How many scenes are with Mallory and Amanda? How much character development do we have with those two characters?
Exactly and yet we have a sex scene with Alex, Mal and Amanda that comes across as way out of left field.
 
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Nurikabe

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Exactly and yet we have a sex scene with Alex, Mal and Amanda that comes across as way out of left field.
I think you missed my point there. The setup for Mallory and Amanda is quite steady. Amanda showing up in the MC's room felt natural. This leads to Amanda obviously participating eventually with Mallory and the MC. I do feel, however, that the full-on threesome where Mallory gets blindfolded, felt rushed and a bit manufactured. One of those moments I had to chalk up to "porn logic" which is unfortunate. I had not had to do that with this game up until that moment. Left field? Not quite for me. But it did feel artificial. Maybe that is what you were saying?
 

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There are three (maybe four) very brief scenes with Tara. We get a flashback to when they were little kids, the sex scene with Jaye, the sex scene with the MC, and the scene where she drops Jaye off to meet George and the MC. How many scenes are with Mallory and Amanda? How much character development do we have with those two characters?
It is not a question of quantity, but of what we are told. Tara has had sex with both of them and we know she loves them both 'very much'. We knew nothing about Amanda and Mallory from that point of view and that Amanda had feelings for Alex, except for the porn game logic, there was no premise


On the one hand the premise, on the other the epilogue
 

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It is not a question of quantity, but of what we are told. Tara has had sex with both of them and we know she loves them both 'very much'. We knew nothing about Amanda and Mallory from that point of view and that Amanda had feelings for Alex, except for the porn game logic, there was no premise


On the one hand the premise, on the other the epilogue
I am using quantity as an example because "quality" would fill a whole page. A good portion of the story is devoted to the relationship between Mallory and Amanda. An entire chapter is focused on Amanda, Mallory, and the MC. We know a lot more about Amanda and Mallory; more than "she loves them both 'very much'." What else do we know about Tara?

On the other hand, we know Mallory's entire backstory. Why she is the way she is. What makes her struggle with self-esteem. Why she changes the color of one eye. We know what she does for a living. We know that she is inexperienced in relationships and sex, and we know why. We know that she was the product of illegal experimentation by her father who was infatuated with the MC's mother. Of course, we know all these things and a lot more because she is a main character and one of two love interests.

We know that Amanda struggled and was near a complete loss of herself due to an extremely rare variation of Rett Syndrome. After experimental treatment exposure, she seems to have a complete remission. We know that her relationship with Mallory is as close and tight as they come. They would do anything for each other and have been there for each other since very early in childhood and throughout excruciating trauma. We know that Amanda has an extreme thirst for knowledge and, now that she can participate fully in life, a huge appetite to experience all that it has to offer. She has chosen to explore life, love, and sex with Mallory and the MC as her guinea pigs.

Is Tara important to the story? Sure. She provided the link between Jaye and the MC. She was Jaye's best friend and confidant. And sure, we know that she loves and respects both Jaye and the MC. Knowing their secret, she wanted to bring them together. She was both Jaye's and the MC's first sexual partner. What else do we know about her? If we removed her completely from the story, would it cause any problems?

There is another chapter coming where we return to Boston. Perhaps Tara will play a bigger role in that chapter. It is highly unlikely that she will be a sexual interest because that would conflict directly with the established relationships of the main characters. But maybe we will learn more about her. Or, we may just have to wait until the next visual novel!
 

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I am using quantity as an example because "quality" would fill a whole page. A good portion of the story is devoted to the relationship between Mallory and Amanda. An entire chapter is focused on Amanda, Mallory, and the MC. We know a lot more about Amanda and Mallory; more than "she loves them both 'very much'." What else do we know about Tara?

On the other hand, we know Mallory's entire backstory. Why she is the way she is. What makes her struggle with self-esteem. Why she changes the color of one eye. We know what she does for a living. We know that she is inexperienced in relationships and sex, and we know why. We know that she was the product of illegal experimentation by her father who was infatuated with the MC's mother. Of course, we know all these things and a lot more because she is a main character and one of two love interests.

We know that Amanda struggled and was near a complete loss of herself due to an extremely rare variation of Rett Syndrome. After experimental treatment exposure, she seems to have a complete remission. We know that her relationship with Mallory is as close and tight as they come. They would do anything for each other and have been there for each other since very early in childhood and throughout excruciating trauma. We know that Amanda has an extreme thirst for knowledge and, now that she can participate fully in life, a huge appetite to experience all that it has to offer. She has chosen to explore life, love, and sex with Mallory and the MC as her guinea pigs.

Is Tara important to the story? Sure. She provided the link between Jaye and the MC. She was Jaye's best friend and confidant. And sure, we know that she loves and respects both Jaye and the MC. Knowing their secret, she wanted to bring them together. She was both Jaye's and the MC's first sexual partner. What else do we know about her? If we removed her completely from the story, would it cause any problems?

There is another chapter coming where we return to Boston. Perhaps Tara will play a bigger role in that chapter. It is highly unlikely that she will be a sexual interest because that would conflict directly with the established relationships of the main characters. But maybe we will learn more about her. Or, we may just have to wait until the next visual novel!
It is not a war between Amanda and Tara, the problem is that in one chapter the insecure Mallory has become an experimenter, ready to pull her friend into a relationship that is already an extreme experiment for her (with all her traumas and genetic revelations). There's just the logic of porn, so in the next chapter they might as well organise a group orgy

Luckily Mallory's dog is dead, for now, otherwise they might involve him too :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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It is not a war between Amanda and Tara, the problem is that in one chapter the insecure Mallory has become an experimenter, ready to pull her friend into a relationship that is already an extreme experiment for her (with all her traumas and genetic revelations). There's just the logic of porn, so in the next chapter they might as well organise a group orgy

Luckily Mallory's dog is dead, for now, otherwise they might involve him too :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, it was a bit of a stretch for her to jump into such an experimental and vulnerable act. In my mind, it has a lot to do with her level of trust for the MC and the strength of the bond between her and Amanda. It seemed to be more about checking a sex scene with the fetish more than creating an organic situation where that could happen.

(My comments were more directed toward the many comments about why Tara is not a major love interest.)
 

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If only Monica didn't have the underboob tat, am I right nyrek? She ticks all the boxes...maybe I can talk her into laser removal, she can get one on her thigh in its place :cautious:
 
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