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Not exactly

Jaye Ghosting = bang any good looking chick that eyes the MC and pursue more once you get their background but ignore Jaye at all costs , completely blocked at every chance the player gets

Lover of all = exactly as it says , bang every girl without thinking of consequences and let the chaos play out
I'd like the option to throw her words from after the fight at the party back at her and call it a day.
 

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I'd like the option to throw her words from after the fight at the party back at her and call it a day.
Don't we all but hey plot armor

You are an agent of order, running a behemoth of a company driving humanity forward.


BE the brucie waine, the green arrow the toni stark ... you are head of a company either you want it or not.
Hmmm..but the MC doesn't have the tech for the bat suit or the Iron man armor or even the wealth to the level of someone like Oliver Queen so how can he be an agent of order :unsure:
 
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Are we playing the same game? I'm totally confused. You said "Now nothing he did in the ten years after (being around her and doing stupid things and sweet things) helped her to overcome that trauma and accept that Mc would always be there for her if she would want that." but what MC did after shutting down Jaye includes: reading her diary without permission, being angry at her for not watching one football match, announcing to everyone in the party that she was almost raped, leaving without saying anything, not showing up during funeral (MC was there but didn't help her), and constantly avoiding having a talk to clear the air between them. How is that "MC being around, doing sweet things, would always be there for her if she would want that"?

I agree with you that it's not necessarily only MC's or Jaye's fault (I think both are at fault), but the way you framed your thought seemed to be just pointing at Jaye being the reason why their relationship broke down while ignoring MC's actions that (most of the times) instigated the problems to begin with.
No but what you ignore is that Jaye has been more or less punishing, ignoring and pushing Mc away while giving mixed signs to him and hurting him for that whole 10 years and that MC has been reacting to that as a kid will. Sure the reading diary was a dick move, no one denies that not even MC himself. Well the after Chris stormed out is as much a situation of Jaye's making or even more. What do you expect MC to be a perfect human being and mind reader who does not get his feelings hurt and has no right to react wrongly based on that? If we would use that measure on Jaye she would be damned. :p

So no I guess we are not playing the same game since you seem to see everything same as Jaye does and think her actions she had to him were just fine and slight yandere behavior instead as what I think is that she has been emotionally abusing him ever since that time when they were 8yo. The reason she did so were her trauma and fear and that is understandable, PTSD is not for nothing a real serious mental disorder as much as bipolar or depression. That does not take away that when it comes to MC she has been a royal selfish bitch, who has shown no abillity about thinking about her own acts or even has any incling how she made MC feel and suffer. Which actually supports that PTSD feeling,

Edit: That is also why I said that there is nothing MC can do to get their relation ever working, as long as that trauma controls Jaye and her actions and reactions she will keep on abusing him and be bitter, jealous and prone to rages when comes to him. He will always awaken that trauma again and again until she has dealt with it. No amount of love, simping or whatever MC will do for her will be enough to give her the safety and trust she needs. :cry:
 
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Canto Forte

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Bring the order in the lives of your babes, MC, bring the throbbing manly chiseled determination to
make a propper woman out of them fleeting all over the place cheerleaders in your life.
Don't we all but hey plot armor



Hmmm..but the MC doesn't have the tech for the bat suit or the Iron man armor or even the wealth to the level of someone like Oliver Queen so how can he be an agent of order :unsure:
You can do that, you are not fighting Raz al ghould or the league of assassins, you are battling to preserve
the light of lust and passion in the eyes of so many babes around you, all depending on you 4 charm and high spirits.
 
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Hella has a kingdom where she can have him for all eternity after she dispatches of thor.
Ah yes, Canto my friend, that Brother and Sister together in heaven thing, sometimes not as great as it's cut out to be :p

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MC has now the power to correct the wrongs from that movie .. join this bombshell to rule the world.
In this life or in death, you are mine to wonder and behold, brother!
 

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Jaye is the stalker .. she wants MC as a trophy, to dominate and own.



You cannot be absent becauseJaye cannot have the company unless it is a joint venture with MC
A match made in the Heavens of Power and Money.
What better way to tell someone 'fuck you i don't want to see your bitch face ever again, go date your rapist' than accepting to lose billions just cause you would have had to deal with them on a daily basis.
 
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I asume the background of load/save etc should be somewhere in the gamefiles, just clean without the menu. I want that render, but cant find it. Till now i have just extracted the rpa's with unren, i dont want to kill the game with rge decompile function. Has someone a clue where the Background is located?



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I feel like Jaye's character being received rather poorly (that's my impression at least) is partly because the player choices in the prologue haven't made any noticeable difference yet. If you're trying to be as nice to her as possible you may get a few Trust and Love points, but other than that things pretty much play out in the same way:
  • Whether you're friendly or hostile while she's writing her diary, her reaction is exactly the same.
  • Whether you stop reading her diary or try to read the impressions, her reaction is exactly the same.
  • Whether you sucker punch Christian or have a fair fight, her reaction is exactly the same (interestingly enough, Tara's reactions are different).
Now these are all relatively minor decisions compared to the MC leaving home for example, but from a player perspective it ends up feeling somewhat unfair that Jaye's behaviour toward the player character is based on decisions not made by the player - kinda like "I did everything I could but she's still being a bitch".

I get why the devs didn't want to split the paths in the prologue, and I'm optimistic that choices will have much more of an impact in the upcoming chapters, but for now it certainly doesn't feel very rewarding to try and be on Jaye's good side.
 

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You cannot control any other than yourslf, beating yourself up 4 somebody elses decisions is futile also.

I feel like Jaye's character being received rather poorly (that's my impression at least) is partly because the player choices in the prologue haven't made any noticeable difference yet. If you're trying to be as nice to her as possible you may get a few Trust and Love points, but other than that things pretty much play out in the same way:
  • Whether you're friendly or hostile while she's writing her diary, her reaction is exactly the same.
  • Whether you stop reading her diary or try to read the impressions, her reaction is exactly the same.
  • Whether you sucker punch Christian or have a fair fight, her reaction is exactly the same (interestingly enough, Tara's reactions are different).
Now these are all relatively minor decisions compared to the MC leaving home for example, but from a player perspective it ends up feeling somewhat unfair that Jaye's behaviour toward the player character is based on decisions not made by the player - kinda like "I did everything I could but she's still being a bitch".

I get why the devs didn't want to split the paths in the prologue, and I'm optimistic that choices will have much more of an impact in the upcoming chapters, but for now it certainly doesn't feel very rewarding to try and be on Jaye's good side.
Free will is exactly that - you can be the best, you will not be the chosen one.
 

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Are we playing the same game? I'm totally confused. You said "Now nothing he did in the ten years after (being around her and doing stupid things and sweet things) helped her to overcome that trauma and accept that Mc would always be there for her if she would want that." but what MC did after shutting down Jaye includes: reading her diary without permission, being angry at her for not watching one football match, announcing to everyone in the party that she was almost raped, leaving without saying anything, not showing up during funeral (MC was there but didn't help her), and constantly avoiding having a talk to clear the air between them. How is that "MC being around, doing sweet things, would always be there for her if she would want that"?

I agree with you that it's not necessarily only MC's or Jaye's fault (I think both are at fault), but the way you framed your thought seemed to be just pointing at Jaye being the reason why their relationship broke down while ignoring MC's actions that (most of the times) instigated the problems to begin with.
The MC shutting down Jaye ?
Yes he was withrawing himself for a few days, the parents had a talk with him, Jaye knew why he did it and decided to not forgiving him ever after, she blew it completly out of proportion, to such a degree that it is beyond reason.
We also know that the MC tried to talk with her after that...not with much success.

Also what are u on about the Mc constantly avoiding having a talk ?

-He is not a mindreader which knows that Jaye after 10 years of apathy and fights, finally decided to open up to him and even confess the next day, especialy not after their fight and what she said.

-He didn't want to return after he left home and wanted to move on from his love for Jaye, so it's clear why he didn't wanted to go back then, neither is it a problem which can be solved with a few texts. Even if he had responded to her, it would have been very likely pointless as he was blocked on her phone for over 5 years...

-After he returned and saw her for the first time, Jaye continued in the same way as 5 years back, in the office and after that on the street, also she didn't ask to have a talk with the mc, she was angry and demanded answears.

Not the right place/not enough time/ Tara is present/and Jaye in bitch mode, perfekt condition for a talk sure...in the first place why would the MC talk with Jaye after how she behaved here ?
If Jaye after the office scene had said 'stressful week...sorry for the missunderstanding and to lash out on u, have u some time to talk ?' than sure, but not if all she does is bitching first thing after 5 years.

IF u decided to answear her text with 'respond friendly'

-Jaye asked if she can visit mc in Aspen
That talk is interrupted before the Mc can even reply and directly after the storm he is already on the plane back.

-Jaye asked if they should meet for a coffee and talk before the meeting
MC did not decline, he asked her, if she thinks if there is enough time, which Jaye pretty much says unlikely, too much to talk about.

Where is the Mc constantly avoiding having talk in ur mind ?
 

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Edit: That is also why I said that there is nothing MC can do to get their relation ever working, as long as that trauma controls Jaye and her actions and reactions she will keep on abusing him and be bitter, jealous and prone to rages when comes to him.
Could you please elaborate on this and give example of what MC actually did in an attempt to fix their relationship? My main disagreement with your thought is that you framed it by repeatedly saying Jaye is broken beyond fixing, while I question what fixing MC even did at all. I have given multiple examples of where MC instigated the problem (consistently from young to older). I'm looking forward to see what examples you could give as to where MC attempted to fix the problem.
 
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You cannot control any other than yourslf, beating yourself up 4 somebody elses decisions is futile also.



Free will is exactly that - you can be the best, you will not be the chosen one.
Well in real life that's the case, but in games like this you usually have partial control over someone (the player character). In this case however, the parts you have control over didn't really matter so far, but it's human nature that first and foremost, we want to be judged based on things we can actually control. For example, if your boss scolds you for being late at work, it might feel warranted if you missed your train, but much less so if your train was canceled.

What I'm trying to say is, the fact that the MCs decisions far outweigh the player's decisions doesn't change the fact that as players, we would prefer to be evaluated by the latter. Jaye doesn't do this however so we might feel treated unfairly - but again, that's just my perception.
 
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Could you please elaborate on this and give example of what MC actually did in an attempt to fix their relationship? My main disagreement with your thought is that you framed it by repeatedly saying Jaye is broken beyond fixing, while I question what fixing MC even did at all. I have given multiple examples of where MC instigated the problem (consistently from young to older). I'm looking forward to see what examples you could give as to where MC attempted to fix the problem.
It was her total behaviour package and way she reacted to him and if you followed the whole talk with bartender you would have known he picked a few of his own worst moments and that the bartender that knew the family actually confirms that behaviour pattern she had. He also without giving examples tells he tried to patch up with Jaye numerous times over the years but was rebuffed by her every time before he left. Now she has the exact same pattern after the parents death, reacting angrily to everything even if there are good reasons why he was not at her side at the funeral, while she has no rights at all to expect anything from MC anymore. If he had been on time despite she failed to inform him in time and he had chosen not to have been there for her for his own reasons that would actually also have been his good right.

She stopped having any rights when she told him to get out of her life and he complied at the fight. She still refuses to see that though. Actually she already stopped having rights when she kept pushing him away as a kid, whether she feels she loves and cares about him, but is still laying her claims for her reasons with no thought about how she made him feel all those years or why he might have been away for five years not reaching out even to his parents.
 

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Tried this out recently, as I've seen talks of it in other threads and the renders look really nice. But holy fuck is Jaye one of the most unlikable characters I have ever seen. Been spending the last hour looking through the thread and I am relieved I am not the only one. I got to the part where she starts masturbating to a flashback between her and Tara ( I think that's her name) and haven't touched it since. Does it get better? Does MC become alpha as fuck and get rid of her? Or at least hints to that happening? o_O
 

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Tried this out recently, as I've seen talks of it in other threads and the renders look really nice. But holy fuck is Jaye one of the most unlikable characters I have ever seen. Been spending the last hour looking through the thread and I am relieved I am not the only one. I got to the part where she starts masturbating to a flashback between her and Tara ( I think that's her name) and haven't touched it since. Does it get better? Does MC become alpha as fuck and get rid of her? Or at least hints to that happening? o_O
just play you'll find a lot of more people than jaye and her side kick
 

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Ah, a fresh batch of people saying Faye is unlikable and in a "please oh Lord, every angels and a cherry on top, make it so we can ditch her forever" mood. Welcome everyone, the war is still on :sneaky:

Wait a little more and the mc vs jaye war will change into a beta vs alpha mc war then into a dom vs sub mc war then everyone except jaye lovers will leave the building then 3 month later game abandoned tag:censored::censored:
 
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She stopped having any rights when she told him to get out of her life and he complied at the fight.
I keep on seeing this as the justification of blaming Jaye so I'll respond to this part since there are no actual examples of MC trying to fix the relationship in your post for me to respond to.

Walter: "Don't be an idiot. She said that in the heat of the moment. You can't honestly think she want you completely out of her life."
MC: "I had to leave because I was in love with her."

Here's the thing:
1. Jaye loved MC, but she didn't know how MC felt to him. She acknowledged that she was in the wrong (she said so in the shower scene) and planned to talk to MC the next morning to find out how he felt. If he loved her too, then it wasn't too late to fix the relationship. If he didn't love her, she wanted to try to move on. The key here is that she wanted to ask MC first before she made any decision.
2. MC loved Jaye, AND he knew Jaye loved him too. He decided to leave because of something that she said in the heat of the moment instead of at least talking about it first. The key here is that MC (for the third time in the game) made a one-sided major decision. (note: as we know, the reason why Jaye was so angry at MC as a child was because MC made one-sided decision for her)

This is the trend that is happening throughout the game where MC instigated something, then Jaye reacted to it and made it worse, then MC just made a one-sided decision which made things even worse. That's why I disagreed with the idea that she was broken beyond fixing. So far in the game, MC hasn't done anything meaningful to try to fix the relationship at all (once again, you couldn't find any example of him doing so).

Lastly, I'll end it by saying that the game is only up to Chapter 1. We don't know how things will go. We don't know what the direction of the game will go. We don't know how the ending will be reached. Normally, porn games have extremely one-dimensional characters where they are given a certain trope and stayed that way from start to end. If there is a happy ending for MC and Jaye planned, then it'd be achieved by both MC and Jaye's characters growing up and becoming better people to fix their relationship.

If you're projecting yourself into the MC and you don't want to fix the relationship with a character like Jaye, I can understand that because you're free to have feelings. But to claim that she is broken beyond fixing is a completely different thing and extremely premature IMO.
 
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