Dependable_223

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That is only if she did not plan it all along so she will get some reaction from MC.
She wanted MC to fall for her.
If this was her plan then she sound really stupid. What was she thinking of bringing this guy as her +1 ?? it would be better to bring Tara or someone else but it had to be the guy mc hated the most. How is that going to suppose to bring them together from now on i would just use all option to avoid talking to her at all costs.Thats what gonna happen in my playthrough.

This part would have only made sense if mc was total dik against her, like avoiding her call etc.. then she bring this guy along even if you used all option to be friendly towards her she still bring this douche allong. So if she going to act like this then my mc will also act like this from now on out.
 
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My mistake on this. You're right on this part. MC didn't know for sure because he's bad at reading between the lines though honestly, it's arguably very clear to normal person (ex: "nobody hurts my MC family" on top of the things you mentioned)

But my original point remains valid that MC was at least in a "know more about how the other feels" than Jaye who is completely clueless as to how MC would feel (since there was no hint that MC loved her). While Jaye's action to that is wanting to talk about it with MC to find out how he feels about her, MC's action was instead to make a one-sided decision and leave Jaye regardless of how she feels about him.
A young teenager who appears to only actually be questioning his feelings for her for likely the very first time, and not having any experience at all in this sort of thing, I don't think it's unrealistic at all for him not to make the connection. I can relate, having been completely oblivious to someone liking me when I was a teenager, even when it was obvious to other people.

And since their relationship continued to degrade beyond this, even if that little spark started to take hold, it probably faded well before the 4 years between then and him leaving.

So even though he did have it almost laid out perfectly for him, he didn't figure it out. And when he talks/thinks about leaving, or at any point after that he has thoughts about Jaye, he never gives any indication he thinks she feels the same way.

And when he has his epiphany, he thinks "How the fuck did I not see this before?". This statement reads like it extends way before the short time he's been back.
 
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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
 

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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
Whaaaaat? are you saying that people can be unreasonably stubborn in this here forum? :)
 
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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
What would you like us to talk about? Just stop any discussion at all and just skip ahead to thread just being spammed with "When update?" and "It's been exactly 37 minutes since the game was updated, why isn't it marked abandoned?" and "This LI had a acknowledged that someone other than the MC exists, how is this not marked NTR?"
 

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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
To paraphrase:

I have nothing to add to the conversation so I'm going to bitch about people having a conversation I want no part of.

That about sum it up?

PS: I'm a Jaye fan, if any one of those things you said where true, she'd be dead to me in 0.002 seconds flat.
 

Demonspike666

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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
I think we've all been quite civil in our discussions even if we strongly disagree about things. As others have said it's the sign of a good story if it's gotten us all engaged in talking about it this much.
 

Hellkinglucifer

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To paraphrase:

I have nothing to add to the conversation so I'm going to bitch about people having a conversation I want no part of.

That about sum it up?
This discussion which i was part of ran out of arguments about 20 pages back and right now is just people regurgitating the same things already stated or twisting every word or thought to suit their narrative.

PS: I'm a Jaye fan, if any one of those things you said where true, she'd be dead to me in 0.002 seconds flat.
Pretty sure there will be someone here who will blame the mc or the whole damn world for those things and still defend her.
 

Naxos

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Pretty sure there will be someone here who will blame the mc or the whole damn world for those things and still defend her.
I pretty much blame the MC for most of it. I think he was a total dickhead. Especially his reaction to finding chris at the house, I get he's pissed she didn't come to the game, but his reaction and pretty much calling her a whore after she's almost raped, must have hurt her a lot.

That said, I don't think she walks on roses either and it would be pretty easy for me to walk away if certain things happened.


Also Stone Fox Studios and Kentyrr a suggestion for chris.
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What about her claim for such demand? MC and Jaye had a cooperative relationship before the first incident. She had every right to feel hurt when they were 8 years old because of it. They've had a competitive relationship ever since, and you don't share your decisions with your opponent. Her claim to his decision-making has thus passed.
In respond to the bold part, they are clearly not opponents. Their relationship was basically the definition of "It's Complicated" relationship status on Facebook. They pranked each other and obviously talked less too, but they still showed care to each other by giving thoughtful birthday gifts and attending their games. This is also supported by the fact that MC went to Jaye's room (prior to snooping on her phone) for the purpose of talking about their relationship. So there was a thought for MC to communicate with Jaye because he cared about her. Unfortunately, the thought never materialized as his rage took over after reading the messages, and the want to communicate was quickly forgotten as he shut himself down for a while before he finally exploded during the graduation party.
 
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Dependable_223

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Seriously this discussion about jaye is still going on. It is useless to debate with jaye lovers because it doesn't matter what she did they will still love her. Even if it is revealed that she's been in a relationship with rapeface for 5 years or the whole rape thing was faked to harm the mc or that she's been whoring herself to a different guy each day for 5 years they will still find ways to excuse her behaviour and love her.

Likewise for people who don't like jaye at all it won't matter if she is still a virgin waiting for the mc(typical cliche to redeem bitchy LI), was bullied into dating rapeface or had a perfectly good reason to be a bitch to the mc for 10 years. They will still dislike her.
Can you imagine how the story unfold that all users based the truth on their own opinion. The dev did a good job. By ending the story before the +1 was revealed was huge + now we can all just speculate who the +1 is.
 

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If this was her plan then she sound really stupid. What was she thinking of bringing this guy as her +1 ?? it would be better to bring Tara or someone else but it had to be the guy mc hated the most. How is that going to suppose to bring them together from now on i would just use all option to avoid talking to her at all costs.Thats what gonna happen in my playthrough.

This part would have only made sense if mc was total dik against her, like avoiding her call etc.. then she bring this guy along even if you used all option to be friendly towards her she still bring this douche allong. So if she going to act like this then my mc will also act like this from now on out.
Actually her bringing Rapey, though most of us will agree would be a dick move, would make all the sense in the world if Jaye has really a PTSD. However much she might say she wants to be closer to MC or thinks she does, her true goal then is to keep her trauma and its emotional pain at bay.

Well for that she needs to keep MC away from her, what better way to do that than to bring Rapey as +1? Same if she really felt guilty about what happened at the party and had wanted to talk to him in those years he was away, she would have not just texted him but hunted him down with help. After him not replying to first few it should have been quite clear that MC took what happened there extremely serious and did hurt him a lot or he would have responded or have returned after some time. Now that would have been a more normal reaction for her after her first anger would have cooled down ( The realization that MC was bit more as just angry or pissed and more was the matter, ofc she had the right to think let him stew on it, but the thought how MC might have felt about happening and how they might have affected him never even enters her thoughts) and even if she might still be pissed off at him.

My argument is that the traumatized part of Jaye was actually happy enough that he stayed away, while the part that is obsessed with MC was less happy and that the traumatized part of her will do close to anything to keep them apart.
 

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Apologies if it comes off like that. I was just trying to be clear that in this game, the MC is not you. There are a lot of porn games where the MC is designed so that the player can project themselves into the MC. Those kind of games are often without any deep story because the goal is to provide either tons of options to satisfy everyone's preference (ex: games with tons of branches because the MC is essentially just a guy where his character doesn't really matter), or without any consequence where each sub-plot is pretty much independent of one another (ex: games where MC has a story with mother, a story with older sister, a story with younger sister, a story with a neighbor, a story with sister's friend, etc but they are never together as if they don't exist in the same setting)

On the other hand, this game has specific story it wants to tell about the relationship between two (or three now with Mallory?) characters, and one of them is the MC. So in this game, you can't really project yourself to the MC because the MC actually has characteristics and personality. Thus, far less options and freedom in this game. Just like you can't avoid banging the wives (personally, I'm not big on being a cheater who bangs someone else's wife), you can't avoid MC being in love with Jaye. It's part of the story and characters.
Thank you for the detailed explanation on why I should think I am not actually assuming the role of MC in this role-playing game.
I just feel like dancing now.

I don't think I mentioned anything about projecting myself in the game in my post/question thou it might have looked like it, damn semantics, I should have worded that differently.
I just asked: "why am I in love with Jaye?"

As you were kind enough to provide a detailed explanation and I feel like dancing, I will do my best to play the game.

GAME ON!

When I start playing this game I am placed in a predetermined role of Jayes older brother. Much like any other role-playing game out there.

The author sets the starting parameters - my character is in love with his younger sister but due to some unfortunate miscommunication in early childhood, our relationship is less than ideal and pretty much nonexistent. He also informs me that, secretly, my sister is actually also in love with me. She is a bit headstrong and acts very cold and uninterested around me.

OK so far so good - I am quite ready to embark on my new role journey and explore what this game has to offer.

In a very short time, I am presented with a fast-forward. Ten years have passed for my character.
Although giving no significant signs or proof of any affection between my sister and me the author assures me that they still (secretly?) love each other.
Ok, not that I can buy it since it seems like we spent 10 (hormone raging teenage) years in total limbo but the author doesn't give me any other choice so - I have to buy it to continue playing.

Suddenly shit starts to get real.
My sister has a guy in her room, some douche or a prick she has been seeing recently but I (semantics - MC, my character) feel he is unworthy of her and I get consumed by some conflicting feelings.
OK, yeah, she is family, after all, her choice of consort is questionable and I have reason to be worried about her, lets roll with that.
Upon discovering the prick tried to rape her I get very angry. OK, fits the role of a concerned older brother.
There is a showdown and I pummel the prick into the ground. Go me, phew what an adrenaline rush.
But wait... sister is not happy, she throws a raging hissy fit like I just killed the love of her life!
Noooo, what have I done?
Completely broken by guilt and remorse of hurting my beloved little sister I pack my bags to start a new life away from her because she never wants to see me again.

The author says I'm a moron since my sister obviously loves me more than life itself. But how should I know that, her hate was oozing out of every pore of her being and her face was horrific and scary, don't mess with me!
Wtf author - you won't give me a chance to talk to her or give her the chance to talk to me?
This game is rigged, Mr. author you are a cock-blocking asshole!!!!!
What an emotional rollercoaster, I almost shed a tear.

Ah, well, damn role-playing games you can't do much but play the role you are given.

Now its time to start over, good for me, my character is finally getting out of that toxic family interaction with his sister and is ready to start enjoying life's simple pleasures.
Time to bury deep all that sorrow and embark on a 5-year journey to find myself so I go around the world, meet new people, friends, and lovers and I am kinda feeling ok?
Alas, my alleged (Autor again reminds me that I am dying inside because I cannot get over my undying love for my sister, damn spoilsport what do you want now?) happiness was short-lived.
I get a call from sis (although she blocked my phone number 5 years ago...) that our parents died in an accident.
Heartbroken I return home just to be met with my ice-cold sis... if looks could kill I would be 6ft under already!

The author tries his best to paint sis as a raving lunatic consumed with rage and jealousy and he does good work there. But hey, author!!! That's not cool - my mission is to reconnect with my long lost love, how can I do it if you won't give us a chance huh?

I almost chuckled when sis called me Captain Starfucker, that was kinda funny, I feel I should really reconnect with sis (the right thing to do, right? Right?) but this meddling idiot of an author is again throwing stones under my feet - he again turns my beloved sis into a raving lunatic thirsty for blood and vengeance. Why, why, what did I do now FFS?

The author again slaps me with a bunch of unavoidable chains of events and I just feel like I lost the game. :(
Are role-playing games supposed to be this hard to play?
I am telling you this game is rigged, you just cannot win!!!!

Feeling kinda defeated after the last levels of hell the author put my character through I start questioning myself, why the hell am I in love with my sis when this meddling moron won't even give me a teeny weeny chance to do my "quest" properly!

Oh, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
We are going to spend a month together on a yacht somewhere exotic - surely this will be the time I could make my move and finish the quest!
But wait... sis is bringing a +1!!!! Author!!! You meddling cunt, what did you do now?

Noooo, it's the douche in the helicopter!
Of all the fucking Mexican soap opera plots he has to pick that one, I just cannot believe it. :(

To be continued... (more drama, bloodshed, violence, and mayhem in the next chapter)

Yo momma too, I'll get you for this I swear!

Yeah, kinda run out of steam and cynicism at the end but think I got the gist of it so far. What do you think?
Oh, and yeah, the game is definitely rigged, you just cannot win.
 
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I'm seeing storms in a teacup out there, but Jaye is not having a fucking affair with that fucking Christian. I'll tell you what this is. It’s payback, after seeing the “Mallory-Alex affair”. Mark my words. Just some “innocent” ribbing between two love-birds. Fucking Christian will sleep at the foot of her bed, he’s like a puppy in her strong hands.




Sidebar: I am so fucking mad that Dev felt the need to involve Jaye in a fucking lesbian relationship.
 
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