VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.10a] [Stone Fox Studios]

[Capt_Kirk]

very let down by the conclusion of the story , a lot of the threads that were still hanging on by the end of the last chapter , got resolve in minutes or got resolve out of screen . (frustrating very frustrating)

#Mc returning home : that should've been one of the most emotional scenes in the avn ( chapter 8 should've ended with this scene) the whole arc on this story started the moment Mc left home and should've ended with Mc returning home , this could've been the right time for Mc and Jaye to really mourne their parents .
just imagine Mc crying because the last time he was on his parents room they were there sleeping on their bed and now Mc is watching their empty bed , while Jaye is crying hugging the Mc as strongly as she can becuase in that moment she realized the same .
this scene doesn't need any dialogue , to be impactful and emotional.

#Jaye /Tara /Mc : reunion got resolve out of screen (throuple that made sense) , Tara was into Jaye and the Mc and she was sexually involve with both of them , that was a scene that should've been in this update.

#Peanut and her Mom: talking about her being cured should've been in the update .

#Mallory /Mc/Peanut : (throuple that made sense) talking about how thing will be from now on , now that the 3 of them are together because that was a new experience for both Mallory and Peanut .

#the cabin scene should've been longer to finish stablishing the characters and their relationships or to set up the Jaye/Mallory throuple . (easily that cabin scene should've been at least a week of them sharing more intimate stories and growing their friendship).

for some reason this chapter lacks any kind of emotional beat (with the exception of the dog scene) , the chapter felt mundane and empty .

this are my ramblings after finishing this Avn.

 

[DeemLeem12]

Thank you for confirming this. I wonder if everyone else complaining about the weird ending is also using mod.

So it's the mod that's causing the issue. I was also wondering if it's the mod that's causing the Amanda threesome. It's supposed to just be a walkthrough mod, giving hints on the choices, not outright forcing you on a path. Welp, at least the dev is going to make an official walkthrough mod.

 

[Thatmonkeyman]

What is the problem with the mod??

 

[TonyMurray]

Another good opportunity to remind people that there is a difference between "throuple" (not in this game, or at least not with Jaye and Mallory) and polyamory (achievable in this game with Jaye and Mallory). In a throuple, in this instance, Jaye and Mallory will also interact, meaning likely threesomes or just the two of them on their own, without MC. In polyamory, they won't interact (as stated by Jaye, she is not at all interested in that). MC will be able to have sex with Jaye and have sex with Mallory, but not have sex with both Jaye and Mallory at the same time. Amanda is potentially available with Mallory in that arrangement, which presumably would be threesome only, but again, Jaye will not get involved. (All of this is subject to change over time, but is based purely on what Jaye says when tabling the offer of inviting Mallory into the relationship.)

This has some really gorgeous women in it, And you do get to have sex with a good share of them. But the game for me was unsatisfying. Because all the girls are just flings, the only 2 girls that matter are Jaye and Mallory. And you only get 1 of them.

At the end of the game there are so many unanswered questions about the other girls. This would have been my favorite game if it had a Harem ending.

Well now that the game is finished, time to find something else.

the ending was meh.
peace

I guess this is a case of reality not meeting expectations. There's no harem tag, there was never an indication that there would be a harem ending. The whole game (as far as LIs go) has been about choosing between Jaye and Mallory.

So it's the mod that's causing the issue. I was also wondering if it's the mod that's causing the Amanda threesome. It's supposed to just be a walkthrough mod, giving hints on the choices, not outright forcing you on a path. Welp, at least the dev is going to make an official walkthrough mod.

The Mallory/Amanda threesome is a coded scene on the Mallory path, it's not triggered by a mod. See more below.

What is the problem with the mod??

The potential mod issue mentioned was where one player had Jaye offering the polyamory relationship despite him not really interacting with Mallory and also Jaye offering it on the polyamory path after Mallory dumped him. The only time it should be offered is where you complete the Jaye path with enough relationship points with both Jaye and Mallory and certain choices having previously been selected.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Another good opportunity to remind people that there is a difference between "throuple" (not in this game, or at least not with Jaye and Mallory) and polyamory (achievable in this game with Jaye and Mallory). In a throuple, in this instance, Jaye and Mallory will also interact, meaning likely threesomes or just the two of them on their own, without MC. In polyamory, they won't interact (as stated by Jaye, she is not at all interested in that). MC will be able to have sex with Jaye and have sex with Mallory, but not have sex with both Jaye and Mallory at the same time. Amanda is potentially available with Mallory in that arrangement, which presumably would be threesome only, but again, Jaye will not get involved. (All of this is subject to change over time, but is based purely on what Jaye says when tabling the offer of inviting Mallory into the relationship.)

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

 

[yossa999]

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

Sure, except, of course, that those words mean different things, and Tony pointed that out.
Those who didn't take that into account, or decided it didn't matter, ended up playing with the wrong expectations and being unhappy with the ending.

 

[homejorz]

I wasn't following development super closely. But last I saw weren't we supposed to get another lewd scene with that blonde girl before this ended?

 

[TonyMurray]

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

Sure, except, of course, that those words mean different things, and Tony pointed that out.
Those who didn't take that into account, or decided it didn't matter, ended up playing with the wrong expectations and being unhappy with the ending.

Yep, Yossa got it. It's all about expectations. And the words don't mean the same thing in context to the game, they only mean the same thing in the heads of some people, it has nothing to do with the game itself. The game uses the term "polyamory" in the character cards at the end. "Throuple" is never mentioned (unless I've missed it, which I'm open to being a possibility). And as another term has been brought in, there is no requirement for the girls to fuck each other in a harem either, they just need to be aware of each other/know there are other girls in the harem. So yes, if this is the case with Jaye, Mallory, and Amanda, it would be a harem from anyone's perspective.

 

[Pendrell]

Was there meant to be any bro/sis talk in the MC/Jaye lewd scene? Seemed like that was missing.

Pretty surprised by the overall feel of the ending. Even knowing that there is an epilogue still to come, it felt a little under-cooked to me.

 

[Canto Forte]

This is Moooing kind of rare, like out there bleeding into your lips with iron flavor.
To be fair, you play this game with a profusely bleeding heart,throbbing incessantly with hope and bulging confidence.
MC was beat and distraught when he left his family high and dry and he found solace in the little things.
People in places where he did not look or expect to be, they turned his life around and gave his the nod that he was still a man child whom some particularly strung out honnies would straddle and defile in the most ravishing way in their minds and, with a coupios amount of game magic, in their arms and between their legs and on top of their bosoms and ...

Pretty surprised by the overall feel of the ending. Even knowing that there is an epilogue still to come, it felt a little under-cooked to me.

Devs know it as they full on disclosed there are loose ends purposefully left untied in this version as the epilogue will strangle them all ... hopefully, unless some get away and we are left with ... a neveending story: Roll Credits.
”Chapter 9 will lock in the player's ending,
which will be explored in greater detail in the final content update hopefully by the end of this year.

There are still some story lines left to wrap up in the next update,
as well as some exposition on how things will evolve for characters
as the ripple effects of their decisions expand both through family,
friendships, and even the world.”

 

[Barrazin]

I just did all 3 romance endings and....yeah it's painfully obvious that the dev wants you to stick with Jaye.

If you go full manwhore you get almost all of the sex scenes and you still get Jaye.

If you're loyal to Jaye and get enough points with Mallory you can still get the throuple ending.

On the other hand, Mallory's great, but there is not a lot of reward in just being loyal to her.

 

[TonyMurray]

On the other hand, Mallory's great, but there is not a lot of reward in just being loyal to her.

The reward is a relationship with Mallory. I wouldn't call her "not a lot".

 

[Augustus Commodus]

I'm not particularly in the mood to debate, but I will throw in my two cents: I enjoyed the game, but I was also disappointed. It wasn't just this update. The last two have felt rushed—ever since the stabbing on the yacht. I cannot even fully articulate why. Perhaps it is just my expectations, but I don't even know what I was expecting. I hope the epilogues help alleviate that.

I'm going for Mallory route. Why does it immediately jump to Amanda threesome? What choice did I make for that to happen? Is there a way to avoid it?

EDIT: I also tried to have as low points with Jaye as possible without trying to kill her in the boat, but it doesn't change anything to the story.

That threesome is scripted, but you can reject it. You can choose something like "End This" followed by "I'm not wired that way." It is the only threesome in the game, so in that sense, it doesn't have much of an impact, but it will determine whether you get the Mallory ending OR the Mallory and Amanda ending.

I plan to add a lighthouse mode in the update where Kent updates the art for the preceding chapters.
It will be an in-game guided walkthrough mode.
Some branches and achievements are too tricky to obtain.

I managed to unlock all scenes, photos, and achievements, but the achievements were excessive. There were pointless ones for each of the effectively meaningless responses in the menu. There were the ones for having maximum points after the intro said maximizing points wasn't important. There were the ones for particular combinations of states. Ultimately, I only have myself to blame for being compulsive, and the game was entertaining enough for me not to give up, but achievement hunting in this game did suck a fair share of the fun out of it.

How? Didnt they just give an out of nowhere throuple on a jaye path? How a harem doesnt seem to fit her? She also said what you do with mallory and amanda, i dont want to get involved in that, so that could mean she wont mind if MC gets involved with them, If mallory is already added in the throuple, how is it difficult to imagine she wont bring in Peanut a women mallory is actually attracted to? Jaye could rope in tara as well who knows? After seeing the jaye+mall throuple became true, a harem could very well happen.

I interpreted Jaye's comment differently. She said that what she was offering for Mallory did not extend to Amanda, i.e. she's willing to share with one, not both. I could be wrong, though. :shrug:

Just need to play Depraved Awakening to wash that out of your mouth. Christina is

Truly a man of great taste. I had forgotten about that game. I need to revisit it again soon.

 

[Skylaroo]

I never used the Joker mod, these are the requirements:

as taken from augustus' post:
- Choose to be in a committed relationship with Jaye at the resort.
- In chapter 9, you need to phone a friend to get Jaye in the John Hopkins program.
- In chapter 9, after spending time at the cabin with Mallory, tell her you wish things could be different.
- In chapter 9, when you have sex with Jaye, her love score must be 95 or higher (this is probably the hardest part) and Mallory's must be 80 or higher.

If you meet all of those requirements, Jaye will offer a polyamorous relationship option after sex. Say you'll talk to Mallory.

You can get that without Joker's mod. I did them accidentally on my first Jaye run. I imagine I'm not the only one.

People might not be realising that's what is causing it?

Thanks for this. First of all, I just want to be clear that I agree it can definitely be achieved without the mod. But as I mentioned before, to get there without the mod, it's an accumulation of our choices as per the requirements that augustus mentioned. So if people didn't use the mod but got offered the polyamory ending, then it's a result of their choices throughout the game.

You mentioned that you "accidentally" got that, and there might be other people in the same boat. But my question to you (and those in similar position), is it really an accident? The reason why I asked this is because of the said requirements being high love score for both Jaye and Mallory, as well as telling Mallory that you wish things could be different. To me, if the goal is to be with Jaye, there is no reason for either of those requirements to be fulfilled by the MC.

While I can appreciate that you might not intend to go for polyamory ending (and therefore "accidental"), IMO this is the beauty of this game where choices actually matter. You did say you wish things were different with Mallory (clearly implying that you wanted more though you didn't act on it). You did keep high love score with Mallory (an accumulation of your choices throughout the game up to that point) so she is still interested in MC despite MC being in a relationship with Jaye. Based on these choices, it seems that the MC did want to have polyamory relationship if possible, and that's what the game gave you. This is the result of your choices.

This is not a knock on you or others btw. This is more of a conversation on a broader context where I think a lot of players do not expect that their choices can matter in an intricate way like this where there is no polyamory path but there is a polyamory ending. This is very different than most other games where often times paths are very obviously marked. As I mentioned on my other comment, this is a positive thing for me though I can understand that others might feel differently.

I hope people who are upset at the ending would look back in a few days time, think about it more, understand why it is the way it is, and able to appreciate the beauty of the game a bit more.

Edit: Separately, I also want to add that my main goal is to correct the false narrative that is somewhat floating around here where they said you'd get the polyamory ending if you're on solo path. This is factually not true. Choosing to be monogamous will result in monogamous ending.

 

[Tremonia]

So it's the mod that's causing the issue. I was also wondering if it's the mod that's causing the Amanda threesome. It's supposed to just be a walkthrough mod, giving hints on the choices, not outright forcing you on a path. Welp, at least the dev is going to make an official walkthrough mod.

That's why such mods are generally shit. They leads on the players to make the "right" decisions. In the end players are only chosing the "best" choice and ends up confused learning that hunting for the love points high score and all the scenes isn't the best way to play a game. Walkthrough mods are just making players to play it kinetic.

 

[Deleted member 2093814]

This is Moooing kind of rare, like out there bleeding into your lips with iron flavor.
To be fair, you play this game with a profusely bleeding heart,throbbing incessantly with hope and bulging confidence.
MC was beat and distraught when he left his family high and dry and he found solace in the little things.
People in places where he did not look or expect to be, they turned his life around and gave his the nod that he was still a man child whom some particularly strung out honnies would straddle and defile in the most ravishing way in their minds and, with a coupios amount of game magic, in their arms and between their legs and on top of their bosoms and ...

Wut?
I really need to learn Canto

 

[pitao]

That's why such mods are generally shit. They leads on the players to make the "right" decisions. In the end players are only chosing the "best" choice and ends up confused learning that hunting for the love points high score and all the scenes isn't the best way to play a game. Walkthrough mods are just making players to play it kinetic.

Depends on the mods, good mods make you do informed decisions, they guide you without make you go this or that choice. I use them so I know what the outcomes are without rolling back every time or save and load all the time and being able to spend the least time on all the branches I want to play in the least time possible.
Joker mods aren't good on this part and rarely are tested enough and this bugs happen and also with saves getting borked often after updates so I usually avoid them.
I never had big issues with Sancho or KoGa3 or scrappy mods for example and when they happen we report and they usually get fixed.

I also use them for other features that improve gameplay, being textbox and UI improvements and option to see after I finish the game replay scenes I missed when I really don't want to repeat a full playthrough. Depends on what you want from them and if they have options to turn on/off features, some even have the option to turn off the choice guide, rarely I use the cheat stat options, I may use some variable change options if that make me not waste much time doing a full playthrough just to change a variable. With all that said my fresh playthrough when I'm done with other games and after read all this mess of a thread , I will just use URM.

 

[wimle]

When I saw Artemis, I literally went nuts! WTF!!! When are they going to finish Artemis?!?!

 

[MiltonPowers]

When I saw Artemis, I literally went nuts! WTF!!! When are they going to finish Artemis?!?!

Umm, maybe ask on the Artemis thread.

 

[TonyMurray]

That's why such mods are generally shit. They leads on the players to make the "right" decisions. In the end players are only chosing the "best" choice and ends up confused learning that hunting for the love points high score and all the scenes isn't the best way to play a game. Walkthrough mods are just making players to play it kinetic.

I see it as two different types of mod. One (like Sancho's) gives you the info you need to make the choice you want (although that might not always be clear for long-term impact). The other, that I don't like and won't give a name to (if nothing else, because I don't keep them in mind) will say things like "best choice" or "I recommend" - these are based on how the modder wants to play it, not how you might want to play it.

The issue with mods is usually in the "chair to keyboard interface", unless the modder hasn't done a good enough job and has left holes and other issues in there...