VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.10a] [Stone Fox Studios]

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ename144 said:
Indeed, I am apparently off it by the end of Chapter 4, though I'm pretty sure that had something to do with crushing her hopes and dreams. But that doesn't exactly help me see the missing content in this chapter, does it?

I'd been doing everything I could to pour cold water on Jaye while still treating her decently, but it seems that wasn't enough. Hence I'm wondering just how far I would have had to push it to jettison her path any earlier. Beyond that, though, I agree with DanThaMan; I would have liked to see the MC and Mallory discuss their own relationship even if Jaye still has the hots for him.
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My goal isn't to make a kind rejection an ugly event. Only a very small (but vocal) minority of players play these games to be the asshole, and I have no intention of catering to them. Conversely, I take no pleasure in making somebody feel like shit for making a decision that feels right to them in the moment.

The ugliness will only happen if the player becomes dishonest, two-faced, or manipulative.

The very last achievement for being a piece of shit was tied to the game over in this episode. Incentivizing toxic play isn't fun for me.
 
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My goal isn't to make a kind rejection an ugly event. Only a very small (but vocal) minority of players play these games to be the asshole, and I have no intention of catering to them. Conversely, I take no pleasure in making somebody feel like shit for making a decision that feels right to them in the moment.

The ugliness will only happen if the player becomes dishonest, two-faced, or manipulative.

The very last achievement for being a piece of shit was tied to the game over in this episode. Incentivizing toxic play isn't fun for me.
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I feel like we're generally agreeing; I don't even have a toxic run through, it never interested me. I was just noting that (playing blind) I didn't find a way off Jaye's path prior to Chapter 4 despite looking for opportunities to let her down easy.
 
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ename144 said:
I feel like we're generally agreeing; I don't even have a toxic run through, it never interested me. I was just noting that (playing blind) I didn't find a way off Jaye's path prior to Chapter 4 despite looking for opportunities to let her down easy.
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, you are no longer on her path. You are also not at war.
 
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Stone Fox Studios said:
My goal isn't to make a kind rejection an ugly event. Only a very small (but vocal) minority of players play these games to be the asshole, and I have no intention of catering to them. Conversely, I take no pleasure in making somebody feel like shit for making a decision that feels right to them in the moment.

The ugliness will only happen if the player becomes dishonest, two-faced, or manipulative.

The very last achievement for being a piece of shit was tied to the game over in this episode. Incentivizing toxic play isn't fun for me.
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It'll be interesting to see how you guys handle the player developing asshole type behavior moving forward. As of now, it definitely feels like there's an intended path you're pushing the player towards. The story you guys have so far is fantastic, but it does feel a bit limiting that we're not really able to pursue friendly/non-romantic paths with either of the main characters.
 
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I'm leaning against that idea, but haven't ruled it out. If so, it would be ONE chance. We shall see.
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I see.

I keep having to delay a more detailed commentary on Chapter 4, but for now I'll say I hope you'll consider adding the chance. I was sad at how abruptly Mallory's path closes; I understand what she was asking, but from my point of view she was still moving way too fast (at least for people who haven't known each other very long). Plus, there's no follow-up on the matter the next day (though admittedly I might not have seen everything thanks to the lunch bug).

The closure of Jaye's path works better as the issue has been brewing a lot longer. But even there I still feel like we shouldn't have to leap straight into bed (literally and figuratively) before we have a chance to talk things over with Jaye. And if the romance is doomed at that point, it still would have been nice if we could at least discuss the matter before walking away.

I'm usually atypical about this sort of thing, but that's how I see it.
 
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ename144 said:
I see.

I keep having to delay a more detailed commentary on Chapter 4, but for now I'll say I hope you'll consider adding the chance. I was sad at how abruptly Mallory's path closes; I understand what she was asking, but from my point of view she was still moving way too fast (at least for people who haven't known each other very long). Plus, there's no follow-up on the matter the next day (though admittedly I might not have seen everything thanks to the lunch bug).

The closure of Jaye's path works better as the issue has been brewing a lot longer. But even there I still feel like we shouldn't have to leap straight into bed (literally and figuratively) before we have a chance to talk things over with Jaye. And if the romance is doomed at that point, it still would have been nice if we could at least discuss the matter before walking away.

I'm usually atypical about this sort of thing, but that's how I see it.
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Sending Mallory away doesn't close her path. Sending Mallory away and then refusing to support Amanda's treatment in Ch4 closes her path. You would have another shot with Mallory if you didn't move forward with her in Ch3. but were otherwise supportive of her. Similarly, not following Jaye to the shower after waking up in her room doesn't close her path.
 
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Sending Mallory away doesn't close her path. Sending Mallory away and then refusing to support Amanda's treatment in Ch4 closes her path. You would have another shot with Mallory if you didn't move forward with her in Ch3. but were otherwise supportive of her.
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Is there a glitch then? I got the Noncommittal achievement even though I definitely supported Amanda's treatment, so it sure seemed like I managed to close Mallory's path.
 
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ename144 said:
Is there a glitch then? I got the Noncommittal achievement even though I definitely supported Amanda's treatment, so it sure seemed like I managed to close Mallory's path.
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I tested and confirmed. There is a glitch there. Fortunately, it's an easy fix, and won't force a replay to re-open the Mallory path in Ch5. On the other hand, a few of her scenes play out differently in Ch4 if her path flag is set properly.
 
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As I've said here before. Not really.
In 49 of the 50 states in the USA sex between ADULT step relations whether step siblings or step parents and step children violates NO law and they can even marry. Period. Other than in Virginia, adults unrelated by BLOOD are free to do as they please.

With regard to step relationships, the incest laws focus on preventing the adult exploitation of minors. So at least in the USA there's NO incest here.
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Well, in my country sex between step siblings is incest by law. So I'm OK with the tag :p.
 
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d3philer said:
Tags are for fetishes, so no, it doesn't need a golden shower tag, as it was played first of all off-screen for laughs and not for sexual gratification.
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So I guess romance is also a fetish then? So are Male Protagonists, Female Protagonists, ''Humor'' etc?? Those are tags and as far as I am aware they aren't fetishes.
It doesn't matter if it was on screen or off screen, the image of it is still there and now I can't look at her character without thinking of her pissing on the MC's face. Whoever finds that funny has an interesting sense of humor.
 
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I tested and confirmed. There is a glitch there. Fortunately, it's an easy fix, and won't force a replay to re-open the Mallory path in Ch5. On the other hand, a few of her scenes play out differently in Ch4 if her path flag is set properly.
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Well, that explains why it felt so abrupt! Hopefully I'll be able to see the intended scenes when Chapter 5 comes out.

At least I get a free achievement out of it. ;)
 
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