VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.10a] [Stone Fox Studios]

[felicemastronzo]

So if you had an option to pick Jaye, Tara, Jill and Jeane, you'd pick Jill every time?

No offense but I find that train of thought ridiculous.

Why Jill?

Jill is a virgin for her own sake, Jaye is only a virgin because of the MC, they are two different situations. Wanting Jill is more like Mallory, not Jaye

Jaye gives a huge show of affection, love call it what you will, to MC. Mc could tell her she fucked up? While he for his part enjoyed life? Really?
Blackmail is too strong a term, but it's a confession (pretty useless as you say) that puts a huge weight on MC's decision

P. S. Jeane even against the other three put together

 

[Lostanddamned]

Why Jill?

Jill is a virgin for her own sake, Jaye is only a virgin because of the MC, they are two different situations. Wanting Jill is more like Mallory, not Jaye

Jaye gives a huge show of affection, love call it what you will, to MC. Mc could tell her she fucked up? While he for his part enjoyed life? Really?
Blackmail is too strong a term, but it's a confession (pretty useless as you say) that puts a huge weight on MC's decision

P. S. Jeane even against the other three put together

I put Jill in there because she was the only LI that I can thinking of that was saving herself for someone, while her situation isn't exactly like Jaye's. That's why I said in the last paragraph that Jaye was incredibly headstrong - she knew who and what she wanted.

The rocky start of the relationship again can be attributed to both of them being tentative and careful not to screw up again. They already realized their feelings for each other and know what they want.

Besides your decision shouldn't be based on if Jaye waited or not. The MC certainly doesn't know it when he's away that's why he was surprised when Jaye told him no when he asked about others.

And to answer my own question - Jaye without even thinking about it. I'd pick the Goddess everytime.

 

[Hildegardt]

Jaye was presented as fiery, impulsive, stubborn, independent and incredibly headstrong. She doesn't like it when people stick their noses in her business (as was shown with the girl that got punched in the throat and the MC at her graduation party).

If she's virgin or not at this point is irrelevant, the point is that she wanted to save herself for the MC. She loved him more than anyone else at that point, though she might not have realized it. Perhaps she discovered those feelings after MC ran away and the feelings overwhelmed her.

But isn't it weird that a woman that can be described as fiery, impulsive, stubborn, independent and incredibly headstrong has weird hangups about purity? Let's be honest, Jaye being a virgin is porn logic entirely. On the other hand the PC's purity doesn't matter to her and in the end she'll probably happily share him with Mallory depending on our choices.
There's nothing wrong with porn logic in a porn game, but from a story telling perspective it's a little meh.

 

[Lostanddamned]

But isn't it weird that a woman that can be described as fiery, impulsive, stubborn, independent and incredibly headstrong has weird hangups about purity? Let's be honest, Jaye being a virgin is porn logic entirely. On the other hand the PC's purity doesn't matter to her and in the end she'll probably happily share him with Mallory depending on our choices.
There's nothing wrong with porn logic in a porn game, but from a story telling perspective it's a little meh.

It can be attributed to her personality, though. It's something that she has chosen based on her feelings for the MC. Morally right isn't the right word I was looking for, but I guess it can be used to describe Jaye. That doesn't mean she's completely virtuous though, as she's shown that she's prone to wrath.

That's why I've said it that the devs did an amazing job in writing the characters. Like there are no perfect and flawless characters in the game.

 

[Deleted member 3428287]

But isn't it weird that a woman that can be described as fiery, impulsive, stubborn, independent and incredibly headstrong has weird hangups about purity? Let's be honest, Jaye being a virgin is porn logic entirely.

maybe she intimidated guys cause of her personality, maybe she perceived them as beneath her, her virginity can be explained in various ways

 

[felicemastronzo]

It can be attributed to her personality, though. It's something that she has chosen based on her feelings for the MC. Morally right isn't the right word I was looking for, but I guess it can be used to describe Jaye. That doesn't mean she's completely virtuous though, as she's shown that she's prone to wrath.

That's why I've said it that the devs did an amazing job in writing the characters. Like there are no perfect and flawless characters in the game.

But does the fact that Jaye waited in sexual abstinence (and not as an assumption but as an explicit statement) mc add anything positive to the character?

In my opinion no, it gives her at most a disturbing nuance

And those for whom it is very important news scare me a bit

 

[felicemastronzo]

maybe she intimidated guys cause of her personality, maybe she perceived them as beneath her, her virginity can be explained in various ways

It is Jaye who tells us this, why should we not believe her?

 

[Lostanddamned]

But does the fact that Jaye waited in sexual abstinence (and not as an assumption but as an explicit statement) mc add anything positive to the character?

In my opinion no, it gives her at most a disturbing nuance

And those for whom it is very important news scare me a bit

Here’s the thing though - is that her defining character trait? Is that the first thing to come to your mind when someone mentions Jaye?

If your answer to both questions is yes, then cool, but I don’t think you understanded the character very well.

Besides, it’s not something that’s overbearingly important, it’s just a detail of her past.

It’s not like it’s something that she mentions every time she talks with the MC.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Here’s the thing though - is that her defining character trait? Is that the first thing to come to your mind when someone mentions Jaye?

If your answer to both questions is yes, then cool, but I don’t think you understanded the character very well.

Besides, it’s not something that’s overbearingly important, it’s just a detail of her past.

It’s not like it’s something that she mentions every time she talks with the MC.

It is the second moment of intimate confession between the two, which effectively starts their relationship. It may not be fundamental but you cannot consider it unimportant either...

 

[Deleted member 3428287]

It is Jaye who tells us this, why should we not believe her?

i was addressing that person's complaint who believes a fiery girl can't be a virgin, according to him it's weird & unrealistic, i simply presented a few scenarios where such a thing can happen.

 

[LizaS]

Here’s the thing though - is that her defining character trait? Is that the first thing to come to your mind when someone mentions Jaye?

If your answer to both questions is yes, then cool, but I don’t think you understanded the character very well.

Besides, it’s not something that’s overbearingly important, it’s just a detail of her past.

It’s not like it’s something that she mentions every time she talks with the MC.

mhm.. mhm.

 

[Lostanddamned]

It is the second moment of intimate confession between the two, which effectively starts their relationship. It may not be fundamental but you cannot consider it unimportant either...

Okay, maybe unimportant wasn’t the right word to use in that sentence.

It’s significant, but not like a critical part of her character would be the more appropriate way to describe it.

Like if you learned if she was in a relationship with someone else while the MC, would that diminish her value in your eyes?

 

[felicemastronzo]

Okay, maybe unimportant wasn’t the right word to use in that sentence.

It’s significant, but not like a critical part of her character would be the more appropriate way to describe it.

Like if you learned if she was in a relationship with someone else while the MC, would that diminish her value in your eyes?

No, but the point in fact that she has not to tell anything, she had her life as MC. It would be uninportant, but if she wanted to tell that became significant

 

[Lostanddamned]

No, but the point in fact that she has not to tell anything, she had her life as MC. It would be uninportant, but if she wanted to tell that became significant

Since the words came out of her mouth, it became a part of her character. So what, I don't see a problem with it. Why is it such a big deal anyway?

 

[NebulousShooter]

Since the words came out of her mouth, it became a part of her character. So what, I don't see a problem with it. Why is it such a big deal anyway?

Because it makes me feel bad when I dump her

 

[Lostanddamned]

Because it makes me feel bad when I dump her

You have no heart.

Apparently all of you need to learn to appreciate the Goddess.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Since the words came out of her mouth, it became a part of her character. So what, I don't see a problem with it. Why is it such a big deal anyway?

Don't be a fanboy....

Jaye waited 5 years illibate her brother/lover, that is creepy for me, or any way not positive

At the first date with a long time crush do you ask how many partners she had? I don't, and if she answer she waited for me i would find that creepy

I should forget that moment

 

[Lostanddamned]

Don't be a fanboy....

Jaye waited 5 years illibate her brother/lover, that is creepy for me, or any way not positive

At the first date with a long time crush do you ask how many partners she had? I don't, and if she answer she waited for me i would find that creepy

I should forget that moment

I'm not being a fanboy, you're picking at straws trying to find fault in a character and being unreasonable in the process. It breaks my heart to see you like this, my brother.

Liz from No More Secret was a virgin and she was also infatuated with her brother, would you also call her creepy?

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'm not being a fanboy, you're picking at straws trying to find fault in a character and being unreasonable in the process. It breaks my heart to see you like this, my brother.

Liz from No More Secret was a virgin and she was also infatuated with her brother, would you also call her creepy?

That is not my point, and you know

But Jaye is Goddess and that is all for you

You have not answered my question

 

[Lostanddamned]

That is not my point, and you know

No I get, what you are trying to say. But if you find the reveal creepy, that's your thing and it's fine. It's pointless arguing about it, my brother.

But Jaye is Goddess

Words that I never thought that I would hear from you in my life.

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