Chicks with Dicks... what's it all about?

[DarthSeduction]

I'm curious, what's the motivation for people who read or play VN or Games with Chicks with Dicks?

I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'm just trying to understand. Does it appeal to gay men or lesbians? Do straight people enjoy chicks with dicks? Is it a secret desire to have sex with a man with boobs or a woman with a cock? What do you think?

Now, I knew I was pansexual a few years ago, but nothing confirmed it for me like Cortney from Coceter Chronicles. To be clear, Courtney has both. She has a vagina that works and she has a penis that works. She doesn't seem to have testicles, but she's a fae creature, so I assume she's got semen production going on elsewhere.

For me, sex is more about relationships than pure lust. Don't get me wrong, body matters too, but I'm not turned off by a penis on a person I am attracted to otherwise. I do prefer effeminate looks, not into manly men. But hey.

 

[Sucubus]

I'm curious, what's the motivation for people who read or play VN or Games with Chicks with Dicks?

I'm not trying to bash anyone, I'm just trying to understand. Does it appeal to gay men or lesbians? Do straight people enjoy chicks with dicks? Is it a secret desire to have sex with a man with boobs or a woman with a cock? What do you think?

You know, I always asked myself the same question. I have many theories, I think some men are "intimidated" by other men so futa is good for them, they still have straight sex without male competence. Other men are probably bisexual (closeted or not), so for them a dick girl is the sum of all their fantasies. The third group of men sees this perhaps as a kind of lesbian sex "upgrade" fantasy? Personally, futas like lesbian sex in games are irrelevant to me, I don't like it or hate it, I just ignore it. The only thing that disturbs me in h-games is rape, gore and CP, plus weird crap like scat, vore, etc. I don't care about mind control, I guess it's because what I really despise is forced/violent sex and humiliation.

 

[Sucubus]

It's so odd to me how people really have such a hard time understanding the complexities of human sexuality. You do realise that hermaprhodites and transgneders do exist in reality correct? Seriously, you try to analyse why people like the things they like as if they have something wrong with them. If you'd been standing in front of me and said that you thought people who are into Futa are "indimidated" by other men, I'd have knocked you the fuck out. Stop looking to invalidate or categorize people's behaviors. Stop trying to make yourself out to be superior. Just accept that some people like some things and move on with your life.

I'm speaking out of curiosity, even fascination. I don't feel "superior" to you or anyone, but feel free to treat strangers with violence in a porn forum when you disagree with them. I'm sure that's the best way to validate your point.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Well, first thing first, futa aren't trans women, but hermaphrodites. They are just women who also had a penis. So, while I understand that some people can find this weird and that it can break their feelings, I fail to see why I should suddenly stop to be straight when I'm excited by the big boobs and soaking wet cunt of a beautiful girl, just because she have a penis in place of a clitoris. Can I stay straight if she have a 5 cm (2 pouces) clitoris ? I'm still straight if she's a hermaphrodite with a less than 5cm penis ?
You know, female genitalia is the first to appear on a body. Back in your mom's womb, you had a clitoris, vulva and a start of vagina. Then, because you're in fact a guy, the clitoris started to grow, the vulva was sealed and the start of vagina disappeared. It appear that, some times, the clitoris grow even when you're a girl, like it appear that some times it's the vulva which aren't sealed and the vagina which not disappear when you're a guy. It even appear some times that you end with both testicles and prostate, womb and ovaries, and obviously the penis and the vagina which goes with them. And you aren't more a freak than guys/girls with red hairs, like you aren't less a man/woman than those with minnow eyes (both eyes have a different color).

It's just that, and it's interesting to see how many guys are ready to call futa lovers "gay" without thinking a single second about all the girls appealed by futa ; like they don't either think a single second about the gays who are also appealed by futa. Because both exist as well as straight men appealed by futa. Yes, there's gays appealed by futa. Are they secretly straight, but repressing their sexuality because, you know, it's so weird and so dangerous to be straight in this world...
Why not saying that guys appealed to women with really big boobs don't have resolved their Oedipus complex and are appealed because it's clearly a representation of the maternal figure ? Or saying that those who love petite girls with small boobs are secretly pedo ? And what to say about those who are excited each time they see a muscular girl ? Excited because they look at a woman built like a stallion ? They must be secretly gay too. Hey, you don't like pubic hairs ? Well, you surely are pedo, right ? Because, you know, it's prepubescent people who don't have them, teenagers and adults naturally have pubic hairs.
Stupid, right ? Yeah, because it don't works like that. Your sexuality isn't defined and can be reduced to the appearance of your partner. And it also can't be defined and reduced by the acts you do or fantasy about. Why not calling girls who love when a guy go down on them, secretly lesbians ? Or lesbians who love to be penetrated, secretly straight ? It's a total none-sense and if it should be the demonstration of something, it's clearly more a lack of knowledge/freedom regarding sexuality, than a sexual orientation.

So what ? Why are people appealed to futa or dickgirls ? I'll answer this question when you'll explain to me why you are appealed to, well, I don't know what you all love, you're too many and there isn't possible generalization in this subject. Well, answer this according to your case :
- Why are you excited by girls with big boobs, more than girls with small ones ?
- Why are you excited by girls with small boobs, more than girls with big ones ?
- Why are you excited by girls with really big inner labia ?
- Why are you excited by girls with almost invisible inner labia ?
- Why is a small clitoris so exciting for you ?
- Why a girl with an enormous clitoris excite you so much ?
- Why do you prefer big aureola ?
- Why is a girl with reverted nipple so disgusting for you ?

And I'll stop here, because the list of what excite/disgust you is so big. Hey, I knew a girl who was completely crazy because my feet were the most exciting she ever seen at this time. Just seeing them and she became wet as hell...

There's no possible answer to this question. People like futa or dickgirls because they like them, that's all. It mean nothing regarding their sexuality or sexual orientation, it just mean that a fictional hermaphrodite or a fictional shemale excite them.
And if you feel the need to search deeper, then you miss something in life, because sexuality isn't about thinking, but about feeling. It excite you, then go for it. And if it disgust you, don't judge those who like it, because they can be disgusted by the fact that you only do it in your bedroom, the light off.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Well, first thing first, futa aren't trans women, but hermaphrodites. They are just women who also had a penis. So, while I understand that some people can find this weird and that it can break their feelings, I fail to see why I should suddenly stop to be straight when I'm excited by the big boobs and soaking wet cunt of a beautiful girl, just because she have a penis in place of a clitoris. Can I stay straight if she have a 5 cm (2 pouces) clitoris ? I'm still straight if she's a hermaphrodite with a less than 5cm penis ?
You know, female genitalia is the first to appear on a body. Back in your mom's womb, you had a clitoris, vulva and a start of vagina. Then, because you're in fact a guy, the clitoris started to grow, the vulva was sealed and the start of vagina disappeared. It appear that, some times, the clitoris grow even when you're a girl, like it appear that some times it's the vulva which aren't sealed and the vagina which not disappear when you're a guy. It even appear some times that you end with both testicles and prostate, womb and ovaries, and obviously the penis and the vagina which goes with them. And you aren't more a freak than guys/girls with red hairs, like you aren't less a man/woman than those with minnow eyes (both eyes have a different color).

It's just that, and it's interesting to see how many guys are ready to call futa lovers "gay" without thinking a single second about all the girls appealed by futa ; like they don't either think a single second about the gays who are also appealed by futa. Because both exist as well as straight men appealed by futa. Yes, there's gays appealed by futa. Are they secretly straight, but repressing their sexuality because, you know, it's so weird and so dangerous to be straight in this world...
Why not saying that guys appealed to women with really big boobs don't have resolved their Oedipus complex and are appealed because it's clearly a representation of the maternal figure ? Or saying that those who love petite girls with small boobs are secretly pedo ? And what to say about those who are excited each time they see a muscular girl ? Excited because they look at a woman built like a stallion ? They must be secretly gay too. Hey, you don't like pubic hairs ? Well, you surely are pedo, right ? Because, you know, it's prepubescent people who don't have them, teenagers and adults naturally have pubic hairs.
Stupid, right ? Yeah, because it don't works like that. Your sexuality isn't defined and can be reduced to the appearance of your partner. And it also can't be defined and reduced by the acts you do or fantasy about. Why not calling girls who love when a guy go down on them, secretly lesbians ? Or lesbians who love to be penetrated, secretly straight ? It's a total none-sense and if it should be the demonstration of something, it's clearly more a lack of knowledge/freedom regarding sexuality, than a sexual orientation.

So what ? Why are people appealed to futa or dickgirls ? I'll answer this question when you'll explain to me why you are appealed to, well, I don't know what you all love, you're too many and there isn't possible generalization in this subject. Well, answer this according to your case :
- Why are you excited by girls with big boobs, more than girls with small ones ?
- Why are you excited by girls with small boobs, more than girls with big ones ?
- Why are you excited by girls with really big inner labia ?
- Why are you excited by girls with almost invisible inner labia ?
- Why is a small clitoris so exciting for you ?
- Why a girl with an enormous clitoris excite you so much ?
- Why do you prefer big aureola ?
- Why is a girl with reverted nipple so disgusting for you ?

And I'll stop here, because the list of what excite/disgust you is so big. Hey, I knew a girl who was completely crazy because my feet were the most exciting she ever seen at this time. Just seeing them and she became wet as hell...

There's no possible answer to this question. People like futa or dickgirls because they like them, that's all. It mean nothing regarding their sexuality or sexual orientation, it just mean that a fictional hermaphrodite or a fictional shemale excite them.
And if you feel the need to search deeper, then you miss something in life, because sexuality isn't about thinking, but about feeling. It excite you, then go for it. And if it disgust you, don't judge those who like it, because they can be disgusted by the fact that you only do it in your bedroom, the light off.

If france wasn't so far away i'd kiss you for this.

 

[anne O'nymous]

If france wasn't so far away i'd kiss you for this.

Like I just return from the anniversary of my best friend and am completely wasted, I would have probably let you do it

 

[Ataios]

I'm not among the people with a futa fetish, so I can only guess. But at least in the case of a futa protagonist, maybe autogynephila - man getting horning when dressing as women. Unless a female protagonist, which appeals more to men who are less immersive players who don't assume the perspective of their characters (talking from experience here), a futa protagonist may still be male enough for a man to identify with.

Again, just guessing, so to those who are into futa, just tell me if I'm completely wrong.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I'm not among the people with a futa fetish, so I can only guess. But at least in the case of a futa protagonist, maybe autogynephila - man getting horning when dressing as women. Unless a female protagonist, which appeals more to men who are less immersive players who don't assume the perspective of their characters (talking from experience here), a futa protagonist may still be male enough for a man to identify with.

Again, just guessing, so to those who are into futa, just tell me if I'm completely wrong.

In Coceter I only give Tabitha a dick to see what will happen. I'm more than comfortable either way. I just really fell for Courtney... However I can see how some men might relate better to the sexual experiences of a dickgirl

 

[wet n wild]

Rather than expounding on the implications towards a person's sexuality, I'll just toss in my reason for liking futa. I'm a bi woman with a love for hermaphrodites. Fully functioning ones irl are improbable, if not impossible, so that leaves fantasy. As much fun as a FFM threesome is, it would be super hot to have it all in one person. I'm not much into trans men for multiple reasons -though there have been a few that I've found attractive. It's more about the unusual nature of such a person, a rare delight, & getting to have ALL THE PARTS!

 

[DarthSeduction]

Rather than expounding on the implications towards a person's sexuality, I'll just toss in my reason for liking futa. I'm a bi woman with a love for hermaphrodites. Fully functioning ones irl are improbable, if not impossible, so that leaves fantasy. As much fun as a FFM threesome is, it would be super hot to have it all in one person. I'm not much into trans men for multiple reasons -though there have been a few that I've found attractive. It's more about the unusual nature of such a person, a rare delight, & getting to have ALL THE PARTS!

As a pansexual male I'm 100% with you.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I'm a bi woman with a love for hermaphrodites. Fully functioning ones irl are improbable, if not impossible, so that leaves fantasy.

If my memory don't betray me, around 1% of hermaphrodites are fully functioning. But it doesn't mean that they have something that can be compared to a real penis or a real vagina ; most of the time the penis is thin.
There's at least one available on the web, she is/was a camgirl and did a lot of video. But she's also the explanation why it's difficult to "find" one, since she seem to have had a problem with the acceptation of her own body and is integrally tattooed (including her full penis and vulva). Perhaps that, with the expansion of futa, they feel better, but most of the hermaphrodites live alone and without sexual life. It's probably easier for you to find the hermaphrodite of your dream, than for them to find a partner. After all, they need to find someone they like, which have the right gender (it's not because you've a dick that you're into girls) and which accept their particularity ; I mean, accept it really. By example, I like futa and theoretically hermaphrodite. But I can't know before testing if I will really like seeing my girl have a boner.

All this said, if you want to try your fantasy, have you tried futa forums ? It's probably the better place to find an hermaphrodite seeking for love, or at least for sex, since their partners must like futa.

 

[DarthSeduction]

If my memory don't betray me, around 1% of hermaphrodites are fully functioning. But it doesn't mean that they have something that can be compared to a real penis or a real vagina ; most of the time the penis is thin.
There's at least one available on the web, she is/was a camgirl and did a lot of video. But she's also the explanation why it's difficult to "find" one, since she seem to have had a problem with the acceptation of her own body and is integrally tattooed (including her full penis and vulva). Perhaps that, with the expansion of futa, they feel better, but most of the hermaphrodites live alone and without sexual life. It's probably easier for you to find the hermaphrodite of your dream, than for them to find a partner. After all, they need to find someone they like, which have the right gender (it's not because you've a dick that you're into girls) and which accept their particularity ; I mean, accept it really. By example, I like futa and theoretically hermaphrodite. But I can't know before testing if I will really like seeing my girl have a boner.

All this said, if you want to try your fantasy, have you tried futa forums ? It's probably the better place to find an hermaphrodite seeking for love, or at least for sex, since their partners must like futa.

I would feel so awkward in that situation. I definitely find it doesn't make me less aroused, but I wouldn't want my partner to feel like they were just a fetish for me either... Still, on the other hand I'd love to be the guy who made her feel accepted.

 

[wet n wild]

If my memory don't betray me, around 1% of hermaphrodites are fully functioning. But it doesn't mean that they have something that can be compared to a real penis or a real vagina ; most of the time the penis is thin.
There's at least one available on the web, she is/was a camgirl and did a lot of video. But she's also the explanation why it's difficult to "find" one, since she seem to have had a problem with the acceptation of her own body and is integrally tattooed (including her full penis and vulva). Perhaps that, with the expansion of futa, they feel better, but most of the hermaphrodites live alone and without sexual life. It's probably easier for you to find the hermaphrodite of your dream, than for them to find a partner. After all, they need to find someone they like, which have the right gender (it's not because you've a dick that you're into girls) and which accept their particularity ; I mean, accept it really. By example, I like futa and theoretically hermaphrodite. But I can't know before testing if I will really like seeing my girl have a boner.

All this said, if you want to try your fantasy, have you tried futa forums ? It's probably the better place to find an hermaphrodite seeking for love, or at least for sex, since their partners must like futa.

Oh, lol, I should have said "have an appreciation for" instead of "love". I'm in a happy relationship w/no desire to go outside of it; I've simply had a fascination with them for ages. I never sought one out for a partner, due to all of the reasons that you stated. There were too many other..hmmm..interesting distractions along my way anyhow. Thanks for offering advice all the same though!

It's more than just a sexual attraction too, but that's digressing. Do you have the name of that cam model by chance?

 

[Ataios]

As far as I know a fully functioning human hermaphrodite would be impossible due to genetics. Human genes only work for sperm or ova, not both. Basically you need XY for sperm and XX for ova. Fully functioning regarding to sexual intercourse may be possible though I don't know about that.

 

[DarthSeduction]

As far as I know a fully functioning human hermaphrodite would be impossible due to genetics. Human genes only work for sperm or ova, not both. Basically you need XY for sperm and XX for ova. Fully functioning regarding to sexual intercourse may be possible though I don't know about that.

I assume that if she has testicles, regardless of whether her genetics are XX or not, she'd produce semen, it just wouldn't contain sperm content...

 

[maisbordeldemerde]

I'm not into futa/shemale kink, like at all, but ain't this retarded much to say it's gay or you're a gay in denial to like these?

 

[DarthSeduction]

I'm not into futa/shemale kink, like at all, but ain't this retarded much to say it's gay or you're a gay in denial to like these?

I mean, if its only in porn it says nothing... if it's in real life then you aren't straight... I think what's wrong here isn't so much that people call it gay, as the fact that people mean that in a derogatory fashion.

 

[Ataios]

As hermphrodites are non-binary, it's basically pan, not gay. Though as far as men liking futa+women scenes, it is not so much different from straight scenes.

It certainly can be argued, if there is a difference between porn and real life and I do think that there is also a difference between men and women in that regard. A man who likes gay porn is most certainly gay or bi, while some straight women for some reason seem to like lesbian porn too, though not in the same way straight men and lesbian women do. OK, there are also some women who like bonobo porn but are not into bonobos.

At least here in this forum, where people talk about their preferences quite openly the "in denial" part does not apply. If somebody was in denial of something, he wouln't post in this thread or this forum at all.

But certainly, it's not acceptable to use the word gay in a derogatory fashion.

 

[Ataios]

I assume that if she has testicles, regardless of whether her genetics are XX or not, she'd produce semen, it just wouldn't contain sperm content...

With fully functioning I meant capable of reproduction as both male and female. Intercourse may certainly still work. Now that I think carefully of it, theoretically in case of a chimera, she may even be capable of reproduction (possibly with herself) though. E.g. if a female fetus absorbs her male twin brother or you transplant a dick and balls onto a woman.

 

[DarthSeduction]

With fully functioning I meant capable of reproduction as both male and female. Intercourse may certainly still work. Now that I think carefully of it, theoretically in case of a chimera, she may even be capable of reproduction (possibly with herself) though. E.g. if a female fetus absorbs her male twin brother or you transplant a dick and balls onto a woman.

One thing I wonder about with hermaprhodites is whether or not a penile orgasm has the same effect on their body as a vaginal orgasm... Male orgasms pale in comparison. Just a curiosity.