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That's really hard to say, because only a fully functioning hermaphrodite would know for sure. But basically I think, that a penile orgasm would work the same way as a men's orgasm and a vaginal orgasm would work the same way as a female orgasm. So basically the penis is easy mode with low level achievements and the vagina is the hard mode with high level achievements. Just guessing.
 

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Oh, lol, I should have said "have an appreciation for" instead of "love".
Don't worry, the "fault" here is my own natural language, not your initial comment. "Like" and "love" are the same word in French, and sometimes it parasite my thoughts when I think in English, leading to confusion even if I don't necessarily use the word itself.
I understood your comment like an appreciation, not like love nor strong irresistible desire.


Do you have the name of that cam model by chance?
I searched both in my memory and my hard disk, but can't remember it, sorry. This said, a quick search on google led me to . An interesting one, since it's a threesome with both her, a girl and a guy, and it clearly show that she's fully functioning both as male and female.


Fully functioning regarding to sexual intercourse may be possible though I don't know about that.
Can't say for @wet n wild, but for me "fully functioning" was intent as an usable vagina and a penis which can have erections. If I remember correctly (I haven't looked at her videos since years) she also have kind of ejaculations ; but it's not clear to see since, like the majority of hermaphrodites with the urethra in the penis, the said urethra don't end at the tip of the penis, but somewhere in the middle of it.
But if you extend "fully functioning" to the reproduction, then articles you can find seem to think it exist (exceptionally) at birth, but not in life. I mean that there's few which have all the internal and external sexual organs of both sex, but nowadays they are immediately sent on surgery to remove one.


I assume that if she has testicles, regardless of whether her genetics are XX or not, she'd produce semen, it just wouldn't contain sperm content...
"testicles" is a tricky word when it come to hermaphrodites. Most of the time they don't seem to have ones, just bigger external labia than a girl should have. But anyway is it my memory or you which is wrong ? In my memory testicles only produce sperm, while the prostate produce the seminal liquid associated to them. And since guy who've had a vasectomy still have ejaculations, I think that my memory don't betrayed me.


All this said, you both talk about XX/XY and forget that genetic demonstrated that there's things like Tetrasomy X (XXXX), and that triple X syndrom (XXX) and Klinefelter syndrom (XXY) (note this one is a direct translation from French, the English name can be different) aren't as exceptional as we could have thought thirty years ago. It's rare, but not exceptional. Obviously only the last one is relevant here, since it's the only one with an Y chromosome.
 

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Don't worry, the "fault" here is my own natural language, not your initial comment. "Like" and "love" are the same word in French, and sometimes it parasite my thoughts when I think in English, leading to confusion even if I don't necessarily use the word itself.
I understood your comment like an appreciation, not like love nor strong irresistible desire.




I searched both in my memory and my hard disk, but can't remember it, sorry. This said, a quick search on google led me to . An interesting one, since it's a threesome with both her, a girl and a guy, and it clearly show that she's fully functioning both as male and female.




Can't say for @wet n wild, but for me "fully functioning" was intent as an usable vagina and a penis which can have erections. If I remember correctly (I haven't looked at her videos since years) she also have kind of ejaculations ; but it's not clear to see since, like the majority of hermaphrodites with the urethra in the penis, the said urethra don't end at the tip of the penis, but somewhere in the middle of it.
But if you extend "fully functioning" to the reproduction, then articles you can find seem to think it exist (exceptionally) at birth, but not in life. I mean that there's few which have all the internal and external sexual organs of both sex, but nowadays they are immediately sent on surgery to remove one.




"testicles" is a tricky word when it come to hermaphrodites. Most of the time they don't seem to have ones, just bigger external labia than a girl should have. But anyway is it my memory or you which is wrong ? In my memory testicles only produce sperm, while the prostate produce the seminal liquid associated to them. And since guy who've had a vasectomy still have ejaculations, I think that my memory don't betrayed me.


All this said, you both talk about XX/XY and forget that genetic demonstrated that there's things like Tetrasomy X (XXXX), and that triple X syndrom (XXX) and Klinefelter syndrom (XXY) (not this one is a direct translation from French, the English name can be different) aren't as exceptional as we could have thought thirty years ago. It's rare, but not exceptional. Obviously only the last one is relevant here, since it's the only one with an Y chromosome.
You are probably correct, I'm American so my health classes were already inadequate before you add the fact that I'm from one of the 5 worst states in education, worst in teen pregnancy and one that still teaches abstinence as a contraceptive.
 

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[oops, sorry for the double post - Thanks @darthseduction, I'm not double posting :D ]

That's really hard to say, because only a fully functioning hermaphrodite would know for sure. But basically I think, that a penile orgasm would work the same way as a men's orgasm and a vaginal orgasm would work the same way as a female orgasm. So basically the penis is easy mode with low level achievements and the vagina is the hard mode with high level achievements. Just guessing.
I think it's more complicated than that.
Few hermaphrodite have a penis which look like a penis, even among the one who can have erections. Most of the time it look more like a phallic clitoris. So, I assume that it's also, at least partially, what it is ; during fetal phase, their body had a "malfunction" and started to grow an erectile giant clitoris. Which mean that it will still have the same enormous amount of nerve terminations inside it, but still be less sensitive than a regular clitoris, since they aren't concentrated in a really small space.
As for those who have really a "penis looking" penis... Well for them it's clearly not just a giant clitoris, so it should work like a penis, which include the ridiculously small amount of nerve terminations. ( What ? No, I'm not jealous of girl's pleasure, what let you think that ? :D )
 
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I'm from Austria, so the education system here is ok, but what I learned in school more than 20 years ago may not be up to date right now.

As far as removing parts from intersexual babies at birth goes, I think that is being diputed right now, as not everybody agrees, wether assigning a gender to intersex people is acceptable or not. So in some countries, intersex babies may be left intact now. But even with that of course only very few of the already few intersex people are true hermaphrodite. So while a hermaphrodite capable of both penile and vaginal orgasms may be theoretically possible, I don't think there is one alive on this planet today.
 
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Rather than expounding on the implications towards a person's sexuality, I'll just toss in my reason for liking futa. I'm a bi woman with a love for hermaphrodites. Fully functioning ones irl are improbable, if not impossible, so that leaves fantasy. As much fun as a FFM threesome is, it would be super hot to have it all in one person. I'm not much into trans men for multiple reasons -though there have been a few that I've found attractive. It's more about the unusual nature of such a person, a rare delight, & getting to have ALL THE PARTS!
I think that's a very logical argument for a bisexual person, I mean, it´s your perfect mate.
 
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I'm from Austria, so the education system here is ok, but what I learned in school more than 20 years ago may not be up to date right now.
Honestly, I had to update my knowledge regarding sexuality, gender and genetic a lot of times since I left school. As reminder, 1991 is not so far ago, and it's the year where the World Health Organization remove homosexuality from the list of deceases. We (humans) learned a lot about ourselves, and also opened more our mind, during the last decades.
 

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It's so odd to me how people really have such a hard time understanding the complexities of human sexuality. You do realise that hermaprhodites and transgneders do exist in reality correct? Seriously, you try to analyse why people like the things they like as if they have something wrong with them. If you'd been standing in front of me and said that you thought people who are into Futa are "indimidated" by other men, I'd have knocked you the fuck out. Stop looking to invalidate or categorize people's behaviors. Stop trying to make yourself out to be superior. Just accept that some people like some things and move on with your life.
In my quest for of knowledge (asking a simple question) instead of trying to help me understand what motivates certain sexual fetishes, you threaten me with violence. By asking a sincere question I'm invalidating people's behavior? Thank you Captain Obvious, transgender (Caitlyn Jenner) and hermaphrodites (approximately 1 in 1500 births) do exist along with angry hateful people like yourself. If you don't know the answer then keep your bigoted assumptions to yourself. Instead of threatening me, you could have answered: I'm a hetero male and I like Chicks with Dicks because... *fill in the blank*. Or I'm a lesbian and I like Futa because... I like to fantasize I'm using a on cock my wife (just an example). Asking questions is how human beings learn. Attacking someone for asking questions only reinforces fear and your bigoted stereotypes. You are very small-minded, confused person and you should really think before you speak.
 

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Personally I have a very specific reason I find it enjoyable. For me as a straight guy I've always hated the idea of other men having sex with women that I want to have sex with (at least in porn) real life is different. For example; if I'm watching porn and this gorgeous woman is getting naked, I want to bang her. Then some dude walks in an bangs her while I watch and beat my meat, not my thing (which is 90% of porn, watching men bang women). I just can't get that excited watching another dude bang a chick that I'd like to be banging myself.

This whole futa or dickchick thing fixes the issue. 2 chicks and no dudes. With that said I dunno if I'm the exception to the rules cuz I have some very particular points with the futa thing.

1. I have no desire to interact with the girls dick. I would be cool with banging her holes but the dick I'd steer clear of.

2. I don't care for the crazy sizes of any body parts. Normal proportions for me.

3. Has to have a vagina, this is a hard stop for me. Has to be there. Balls are ok but the vagina has to be there.

4. Most of my fantasies with futa involve a normal chick in there too.

There has never been a driving factor for me to be with a man. In fact I'm actually an extremely jealous person when it comes to relationships. This translates into my other porn viewing too. Examples; Pov is my bread an butter (lets me roleplay as the guy in the video), Lesbian no dude no problem, gloryhole this one is ok sometimes cuz I can't see the dudes face so it's not there to bother me (similar to pov). Also, something like cucking, God, I dunno how people get off to that. That is my absolute worse type. It actually makes me angry thinking about it. I can't watch anything that mentions or implies the people involved are cheating or sharing a spouse/SO.

Dunno if this helps but it's just how I view things.
 

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...and one that still teaches abstinence as a contraceptive.
Well abstinence can prevent pregnancy so I suppose it is 'technically' a form of contraception, it just isn't a form that allows one to experience the pleasure that can be derived from traditional sexual intercourse. :p
 
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Although I am far from a specialist, I think there are several things which seem related but are actually completely different:

1) Hermafrodite / "futa" is a rare physical condition where a person has sexual organs from both sexes which may be normally developed or not. In that case, it is clearly not that person's "fault" nor does it have to do anything with (perceived) sexual orientation.

2) Transgender / gender dysphoria, i.e. a person who was born in the body of one sex but feels he/she should have the body of the other sex. This is a condition that some people have (it often starts before puberty) and, with modern medical science, they can actually do something about it. Also here, this has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I read a story one time, about a post-operation male (now female) who was in a "lesbian" relationship with a "natural" woman, but actually regretted losing the penis because it would (in retrospect) be nice to have penetrative sex...

3) Sissy / feminisation, a male who is (usually "forced" to, but I guess can also voluntary) dress as / act as / become a woman and perform sex acts on men. Eventually this may lead (in fantasy at least) to becoming a transgender, but it is not the same in my opinion. Feminisation has to do with a extreme humiliation / dominance fetish, and not with gender dysphoria, as for people with gender dysphoria there is no (doesn't have to be) sexual component.

In my opinion, the usual definition of straight / gay is not relevant for both hermafrodites and transgenders, because they are not firmly male or female themselves, so with any partner (male or female) it could be considered "gay". Not that that matters though.

For the sissy fetish, I do think you can call that "gay". Although I also read one time (from a transsexual prostitute) that men who visit transgender prostitutes are not gay, because they are attracted to the female form, even if that female form happens to have a dick. I guess that makes some kind of sense.
 
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Well abstinence can prevent pregnancy so I suppose it is 'technically' a form of contraception, it just isn't a form that allows one to experience the pleasure that can be derived from traditional sexual intercourse. :p
That's why there is anal sex... :p

But I guess that technically doesn't count as abstinence, unless your last name is Clinton.
 
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Well abstinence can prevent pregnancy so I suppose it is 'technically' a form of contraception, it just isn't a form that allows one to experience the pleasure that can be derived from traditional sexual intercourse. :p
To be clear, they teach abstinence in lieu of detailed sexual education. Any talk of condoms or birth control has to be contrived by the students. Health teachers put question boxes on their desks in hopes of being asked the questions for the parts of the subject that aren't in the curriculum, like contraceptives.
 

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2 pages full of denial, probably a lot more & keep going on until the end of the days.
Oh yes, that's not closed minded at all. Lets keep trying to label everyone and put them down rather than understanding that sexuality isn't binary.
 

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It's denial. A love of the dick regardless of them being either male or female is still a love of the dick. A straight guy doesn't see a naked woman and think to himself "I wish she had a dick or It would be better if she had a dick"

. a in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming .
 
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It's denial. A love of the dick regardless of them being either male or female is still a love of the dick. A straight guy doesn't see a naked woman and think to himself "I wish she had a dick or It would be better if she had a dick"

. a in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming .
A chick with a dick isn't a part of the binary gay or straight sexuality. Your oversimplification only serves to make you look like a fool.
 

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If you're a guy and like dick then you're gay. There is no grey area, just those in denial or mentally ill believing in a spectrum... Now I'm off to start my Valentines day with a lovely lady.
 
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3) Sissy / feminisation, a male who is (usually "forced" to, but I guess can also voluntary) dress as / act as / become a woman and perform sex acts on men. Eventually this may lead (in fantasy at least) to becoming a transgender, but it is not the same in my opinion. Feminisation has to do with a extreme humiliation / dominance fetish, and not with gender dysphoria, as for people with gender dysphoria there is no (doesn't have to be) sexual component.
I disagree on one point. While most of the time sissy is seen as a form of submissive bisexuality, technically it's just a form of submission. Many sissies have never had sex with male, while still being generously pegged by their mistress. So a sissy is a submissive male who take is pleasure by the negation of his manliness. It happen that a lot of them are bisexuals, but it's more a consequence than a part of the definition.


In my opinion, the usual definition of straight / gay is not relevant for both hermafrodites and transgenders, because they are not firmly male or female themselves, so with any partner (male or female) it could be considered "gay". Not that that matters though.
Anyway trying to apply words like "gay" and "straight" to transgender lead only to strong headache. There a (ex ?) mayor in England, who's a MTF transgender (born male, now female) that married another MTF transgender. So, they are both gay (they are both born male), lesbian (they are now both female) and straight (they both are with a person who've the opposite sex of their own sex at birth). This said, they probably see themselves as lesbians, since they are in a female with female relationship.
As for hermaphrodites, technically they are neither male nor female, so here again yes, you can't apply words like "gay" or "straight" to them because these words only apply to persons who are male or female. Unlike transgenders, to whom you can decide to define their sexuality according to their actual sex or their sex at birth, you really can't do it with hermaphrodites ; they are from a third sex.


For the sissy fetish, I do think you can call that "gay". Although I also read one time (from a transsexual prostitute) that men who visit transgender prostitutes are not gay, because they are attracted to the female form, even if that female form happens to have a dick. I guess that makes some kind of sense.
Which fall back to what I said previously. What attract me at first with futa is there female attributes. And it's probably the same for straight men who aren't against pegging and like futa ; they are just girls with a living strap-on.
 
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