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kentastic

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seen one ntr piece of crap seen them all. this one is no different from all the others. everyone in town is doing your woman but you. big shocker. does the woman tell her companion that she's being brutalized? of course not. they never do. cliche. all these things are the same. she's raped by the town and grows to just love being raped. retarded. how about an ntr where the girl is romanced by a good looking guy, who wins her with good actions? or is that against the almighty ntr gods?
 

danielwain

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It's against the sales. Unwilling to slutty girl that falls in love with jerks treating her worse than a piece of garbage, oblivious MC and scummy at least borderline rapist guys winning her over is a tried and true tactic for sales, so it gets mass-produced, since it's easier and a lot less risky than coming up with something original. The same is true for most if not all commercial hentai stuff, it almost always follows a very simple formula. There are some passion project outliers and such, but at least 90% of hentai seems like a carbon copy of every other one of the same genre, with minor variations at most.
 

desmosome

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It's against the sales. Unwilling to slutty girl that falls in love with jerks treating her worse than a piece of garbage, oblivious MC and scummy at least borderline rapist guys winning her over is a tried and true tactic for sales, so it gets mass-produced, since it's easier and a lot less risky than coming up with something original. The same is true for most if not all commercial hentai stuff, it almost always follows a very simple formula. There are some passion project outliers and such, but at least 90% of hentai seems like a carbon copy of every other one of the same genre, with minor variations at most.
Same goes for western games. Well, porn in general.
 
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This MTL is actually rather good, at least at the beginning. Unless it's one of those MTL that is edited slightly at the start and then falls apart into poetry later, this could be worth playing.

Edit: But as always with MTL, some pronoun mix-ups and grammar issues can't be helped. It's still pretty good for a lightly edited MTL.

Edit2: Well, it does seem to get progressively worse. The pronoun mix-ups particularly make it hard to follow the true meaning of certain conversations.
My MTL wasn't meant for the public, potentially having bugs and/or other errors. The "slighly edited" note in the OP is likely there because I mentioned to Saikey that I manually edited the dungeon navigation menu and the town/place names. Else this is basically entirely unedited, except for a couple fixes for the strangest of things I found during my ~one hour session, as well as for fixing some very weird mistranslations that turned the FMC's moans into entire paragraphs of random words.
 
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seen one ntr piece of crap seen them all. this one is no different from all the others. everyone in town is doing your woman but you. big shocker. does the woman tell her companion that she's being brutalized? of course not. they never do. cliche. all these things are the same. she's raped by the town and grows to just love being raped. retarded. how about an ntr where the girl is romanced by a good looking guy, who wins her with good actions? or is that against the almighty ntr gods?
Sounds really boring. You have horrible taste.
 
Jun 22, 2022
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i'll wait for our hero to finish the job.
I can make bug fixes for MTL-caused errors and fix the worst offenders that people can find during the playthrough (that was the entire idea of not posting it early). Else please know that I won't edit the entire game manually.
 
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So I thought NTR/cuck was a fetish that depended on the POV character having their partner stolen from them sexually/emotionally. Apparently it can mean "someone, somewhere has feelings for a woman but doesn't get her exclusively" or even "a couple people are attracted to each other but never get together".

If the protagonist is the woman "being stolen" isn't that just like a cheating fetish? And even then, is the protagonist and her love interest even in a committed relationship? Or is it she just has feelings for some guy she's known, there's just some minor tension that's never explored, and she just has sex with a bunch of randos? Is the tension because she feels naughty for not going after the boy next door?

Like, the netorare fetish requires you stealing someone else's girl, but if you squinted, you could call that NTR because a guy is "getting cucked".

Help me out here, these tags seem inconsistent.
 
Jun 22, 2022
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Help me out here, these tags seem inconsistent.
Tags can't really cover all nuances of NTR. Despite the prejudice of "NTR is always the same", it's actually a fetish with countless layers. I don't want to dive any deeper into it right now, as that hole leads very deep indeed (and you'll find many different definitions and discussions of the kink online, f95 included), but I want to say that it's wrong using "cuck" as a synonym for NTR. Cuckolding fetish is its own thing, existing in the realm of NTR, but it's not "the" NTR kink itself.
 

Duifer

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Soooo many flashbacks jeez takes like 30 mins of spamming enter to get to the first H scene. I dont care about your past!
 
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Tags can't really cover all nuances of NTR. Despite the prejudice of "NTR is always the same", it's actually a fetish with countless layers. I don't want to dive any deeper into it right now, as that hole leads very deep indeed (and you'll find many different definitions and discussions of the kink online, f95 included), but I want to say that it's wrong using "cuck" as a synonym for NTR. Cuckolding fetish is its own thing, existing in the realm of NTR, but it's not "the" NTR kink itself.
I'm not sure about all that, but okay. It mostly sounds like it would be prudent to just kinda pick a definition like "The POV character experiences humiliation as their significant other is claimed sexually by another", or whatever, and if something strays too far from that then it doesn't count. If a 10 people have 12 different definitions for a term, it's essentially useless as a word. It doesn't sound like there's infinite nuance, just a situation where people haven't figured out new terms and tons of people are using the same word for very different things that just so happen to have a little overlap.
 
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I'm not sure about all that, but okay. It mostly sounds like it would be prudent to just kinda pick a definition like "The POV character experiences humiliation as their significant other is claimed sexually by another"
There's a definition for NTR on f95: NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

For more information, please visit: https://f95zone.to/threads/help-wit...ons-recommendations-resources-and-news.99024/
 

Mustang Flex

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I've seen what some motherfuckers on this site call edited enough to count as heavily edited MTL, least this one is honest about being edited like rubbing a chicken breast against an incandescent light bulb counts as cooking.
 

NTR Angel

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I've seen what some motherfuckers on this site call edited enough to count as heavily edited MTL, least this one is honest about being edited like rubbing a chicken breast against an incandescent light bulb counts as cooking.
Would you mind being more specific about the issues on the translation?
The translator will surely improve it, but your feedback is needed.
 
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I don't consider not being with your crush to be NTR if the relationship is desired but never actualized its not cheating in my mind.
 

desmosome

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I'm not sure about all that, but okay. It mostly sounds like it would be prudent to just kinda pick a definition like "The POV character experiences humiliation as their significant other is claimed sexually by another", or whatever, and if something strays too far from that then it doesn't count. If a 10 people have 12 different definitions for a term, it's essentially useless as a word. It doesn't sound like there's infinite nuance, just a situation where people haven't figured out new terms and tons of people are using the same word for very different things that just so happen to have a little overlap.
It's accepted that the one being stolen in NTR is the female, whether she is the MC or not. Reverse NTR is when the male is stolen. Also, she doesn't have to be in a romantic relationship. They just have to share a deep bond, whether it be unrealized love, platonic love, familial bonds, etc. That bond is broken by the end of the corruption arc.

It can get murky when you get into the cheating vs NTR with a female MC. We can say that NTR deals with more of the psychological, the corruption process, and the fact that the female is eventually stolen. There are always outliers, whether it be because the tag was used loosely/incorrectly or some other reason, but the general vibe of Japanese NTR stories almost always revolves around the concept of the female being corrupted into cum dump for the baddy.

It does start to lose meaning these days when pretty much everything involving a non-MC male is considered NTR.

The whole jealousy and humiliation aspect that people swear by is more of a western construct stemming from the cuckold fetish. I mean, Japanese NTR can also have those themes, but there are so many NTR stories where the male protagonist doesn't even know about it until the very end (and sometimes never finds out). It's the journey of the female character that is the more important part, regardless of the POV.
 
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