VN Ren'Py Cindy's Diary [Demo v1.0] [Skull Design]

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Mcg96

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Every AI out there is trained with the works of real people, be it text models like ChatGPT, image models like Stable Diffusion or 3D models like MeshyAI. The moment you use it for commercial purposes it becomes scummy as you benefit from the works of others without compensating them or asking for permission in the first place.
Thanks for that insight. I constantly see people whining here about AI, and appreciate an actual answer.
 
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patachoucs

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How is this even allowed by the moderators I don't understand.

Stealing Eva Kiss works, using AI, not even acknowledging where it comes from, and getting a Patreon to finance it ?

I can see shame is not killing you. I hope this channel will be nuked as it should by the mods, and that so will the Patreon.

Abhorrent behavior.
 

Ragnar

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How is this even allowed by the moderators I don't understand.

Stealing Eva Kiss works, using AI, not even acknowledging where it comes from, and getting a Patreon to finance it ?

I can see shame is not killing you. I hope this channel will be nuked as it should by the mods, and that so will the Patreon.

Abhorrent behavior.
Where do you think you are? This is a pirate site, nobody cares about plagiarism. Games like Big Brother have dozens of copycats and parodies.
 

Ragnar

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I care, and you should. I'm not gonna approve that kind of lazy cashgrab. Also I'm tired of the "pirate website" argument. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have standards.
As long as the content in the game is not stolen from another dev there is no problem here.
The models aren't original? Parody is fair use under copyright laws.
 

Yamakasi20

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Great start for a game.

The 1 star rating is HIGHLY undeserved and
comparing the art to Eva Kiss's who started by outlining real scenes is a FAR STRETCH.

Carry on, Dev, you might be sitting on gold, BEST OF LUCK!

EDIT: Not sure if Dev is generating art or straight up reusing cg's from other games. If the latter, than I understand people's frustration.
 
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Every AI out there is trained with the works of real people, be it text models like ChatGPT, image models like Stable Diffusion or 3D models like MeshyAI. The moment you use it for commercial purposes it becomes scummy as you benefit from the works of others without compensating them or asking for permission in the first place.
I get you dude. And it's really even worse. It's completely endemic to our system to tolerate thieves. This is true also for human artists - they train with images, and sometimes even real life viewing, of real people. They steal their images to train their so-called art, usually without compensating the person they are drawing. Completely scummy. Personally I blame the renaissance - many of these renaissance artists started before there were checks and balances and laws in place to prevent this sort of immoral activity and it has just become accepted by society.
 

starkj

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Did you even asked for permission to do this? Literally stealing characters from another game.
 
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Overview:
Cindy is a beautiful 25-year-old blonde with emerald-green eyes and a killer body, she's very sensitive and sentimental, a quiet girl, and doesn't like problems. She's just starting out in modeling and recently broke up with her boyfriend Wade. She is the main character of this adventure.​

Thread Updated:2025-05-15
Release Date: 2025-05-05
Developer: Skull Design
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Version: Demo - 1.0
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Language: English
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ya know I get this is a piracy site but this is just straight up plagerism.... if dev had at least mentioned Eva on his patreon and said this was a fan made side quest fine. But no just came in and stole characters from ORS the story is all new but the plot is basically Cindy's Story in ORS. I really hope people report this guy on patreon and tell Eva about their duechebaggery.

0/10 next time put some work into making your own characters character designs and plot.

P.S. I am well aware this is a piracy site, here is the thing with piracy we acknowledge the dev's hard work on their original game, sometimes they even gain financial support from places like this, SOME devs even interact with AND post their own games here.

That said this is NOT piracy this is straight up plagiarism, which is stealing someone else's work and taking credit for it and trying to profit from said theft.

Jack Sparrow does not approve.
 
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The Krogan Dude

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As long as the content in the game is not stolen from another dev there is no problem here.
The models aren't original? Parody is fair use under copyright laws.
But it's not a parody here, it's a monetized fanfiction and it doesn't even credit the author.

On the other hand, we're getting it for free here. One could say we're stealing a thief :BootyTime:
 

Buletti

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Cheers folks!

Any Intel if this is going to have a lesbian path? Is there anything indicating in this release?

Thx a lot in advance!
 
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This guy better make peace with Eva Kiss or the hordes from their Discord channel gonna get this reported and Suspended
 

cdcdcd171

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That doesn't make it scummy. I'm pretty sure they've already proven they can reach the same level of Ai art with just free to use pictures and not training it with anything else but that. So the argument that it's stealing is already done there.
IT also doesn't look as good as normal art still. IT's just less effort which is the thing the artists are really whining about even if they don't say it.
This game is taking a known character and making a sidestory with them. It's not a big deal, and the Use of AI here isn't disrespectful towards the original work. Rendering or using AI to achieve the same result doesn't matter.
We have this conversation every time a copycat game comes around and the EvaKiss defenders attack anyone who use tracing like Evakiss does and it's crazy how rabid those people are.
What you are forgetting is that this AI was definitely using game assets. This guy didn`t use some comic stile AI and tipped " Blond Girl in yellow shirt" and randomly got Cindy. And since Eva is buying Assets I can`t imagine the original artist is fine with AI reproducing his work or operates on any free to use licence (and even then almost all of them call for credit to the original creator)
I'm not against AI Pictures in general, I can see how they might help some writers break into the VN market without investing a more than they have into an artist. Although most of what we get from them is so generic even my dick falls asleep.
 
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