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Xypher

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Is the Trials bugged cuz everytime when we are at full hp and the Wild Hunt are less than 2 hp left, the game insta lose.
 

Profesor Nitzsche

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Tricking women into doing sexy things with magic or lies is kinda rapey to me. And that's the part I don't like.

One of the things I liked about Witch Trainer (even though Genie is being deceptive) is that it's clear that Hermione LIKES what she is becoming -- she is enjoying it by the end and looks forward to it, being an aggressor herself for what she wants. More of that in these games would be very welcome.
Moralist are a funny bunch of people. They always try to find something to justify their actions. You play as a person who corrupts naive girls and turn them into sluts...but hey they enjoyed it so it`s fine right? I am not a bad person right? But I am not complaining about forced bdsm, a bit of zoofilia and mental abuse. No, no, no it is persuasive tricks that are the problem! I mean how could you lie to poor people you monster?! Well here is a tip for you:
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waffel

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Moralist are a funny bunch of people. They always try to find something to justify their actions. You play as a person who corrupts naive girls and turn them into sluts...but hey they enjoyed it so it`s fine right? I am not a bad person right? But I am not complaining about forced bdsm, a bit of zoofilia and mental abuse. No, no, no it is persuasive tricks that are the problem! I mean how could you lie to poor people you monster?! Well here is a tip for you:
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Also why don't they indulge in all the fun and crazy stuff in a medium where nobody gets hurt, and save the morals to when they actually make a difference, when they interact with real people and animals?!
 

Gutsandguts

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Moralist are a funny bunch of people. They always try to find something to justify their actions. You play as a person who corrupts naive girls and turn them into sluts...but hey they enjoyed it so it`s fine right? I am not a bad person right? But I am not complaining about forced bdsm, a bit of zoofilia and mental abuse. No, no, no it is persuasive tricks that are the problem! I mean how could you lie to poor people you monster?! Well here is a tip for you:
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Did you miss the part where they said "I agree with a lot of what was said above, and clarify that it's not just this particular game we're complaining about."?

Because it sure looks like you did, what's the point in being an ass about what they said...?

Jesus Fucking Christ. I gave my opinion of the games I like. You want to play a game where you murder people and rape them? Go ahead. I never said you couldn't. Fucking assholes. Play what you want and let me give my opinion, too.
I prefer trainer games as you described as well.
Of course, some manipulation is required but ultimately I find it much more satisfying to make a character realize they like all this stuff.

Forcing them in to submission doesn't really feel like training to me, of course someone you lock in a basement and keep on the verge of starvation is going to "let" you have sex with them but if you have complete power over a person like that anyway where's the satisfaction in making them do your bidding?
To me devotion is far sexier than blind obedience, to have someone do what you say because they want to, rather than because they fear the crack of a whip.
 
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SamHaim

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The game structure is really good but it really needs more visual content in the sex scenes. Current scenes generally need at least two more images each. Dialogue is higher quality than most games here, kudos.

I'd suggest some having scenes where Vessimir is the one fucking the women before they find out MC's a doppelganger. Could have MC role play as Geralt with the various characters too with them either knowing MC is a doppelganger or not.. Can't say I'm a fan of the disembodies blue cock fucking them. Really any other scenarios that don't have the women being fucked by a blue cock would be great.
 

Gundamu0079

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doesn't compare to their other game which was imo 1000 times better

for those wondering what the other game is, its the dc comics one called girls in big city i believe
 

yihman1

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One of the worst let downs in this game is to have the phenomenal magical powers of both a shapeshifter and someone with mind control powers... but to squander it away by only taking a single form and almost no mind control use, and never using these special abilities otherwise when they could be interesting to use.

It's like giving you the role of a billionaire, but only 1 item is available to buy anywhere in the game of minimal importance.

It's like having the ability to fly, but you only use it 1 time to get a cat out of a tree and then walk everyplace else.

It's like having a character than can understand 1,000 different languages and fluently... They use this 1 time to read a menu.

It's like having a character with master level sword skills. They win 1 quick swordfight at the start of the story and that's it.

It's like having a time machine, but the character uses it just one time and only goes back in time 1 hour to not be late for work.

It's like having a character with x-ray vision, but the character uses it one time and for strictly medical purposes.

It's like having a character than can become invisible at any time. They use it just once and to return a library book on time.

Giving a character fantastic superpowers or traits, but then not utilizing this anywhere near to the levels of fun they could be is always a letdown.
 

SamHaim

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One of the worst let downs in this game is to have the phenomenal magical powers of both a shapeshifter and someone with mind control powers... but to squander it away by only taking a single form and almost no mind control use, and never using these special abilities otherwise when they could be interesting to use.

It's like giving you the role of a billionaire, but only 1 item is available to buy anywhere in the game of minimal importance.

It's like having the ability to fly, but you only use it 1 time to get a cat out of a tree and then walk everyplace else.

It's like having a character than can understand 1,000 different languages and fluently... They use this 1 time to read a menu.

It's like having a character with master level sword skills. They win 1 quick swordfight at the start of the story and that's it.

It's like having a time machine, but the character uses it just one time and only goes back in time 1 hour to not be late for work.

It's like having a character with x-ray vision, but the character uses it one time and for strictly medical purposes.

It's like having a character than can become invisible at any time. They use it just once and to return a library book on time.

Giving a character fantastic superpowers or traits, but then not utilizing this anywhere near to the levels of fun they could be is always a letdown.
Very much agree. The Dev has a great framework but it needs to be fleshed out with content within the current corruption levels established. It's getting tedious progressing the story.
 
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AlisaB

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Really, you don't realize that all that problems come from the initial premise from Akabur's games this one is imitating? All that grinding for earning money and stats, rebuilding buildings, getting clothes or other elements, etc. is already in original Akabur's games as well as the premise of the old fart using magic and other crappy lazy writing resources for getting his way on the girl.
You want a kinkier game? It's OK. I like kinkier too. But it doesn't mean the initial premise is good. It was good five years ago for Akabur. Righ now, is old an boring since there are a lot of games like that.
No. Things you listed are mostly just shitty gameplay elements not premise. This may surprise you but premise of slave trainers is... to train a girl to become an obedient slut, usually by using deception, blackmail, persuasion, mind control and other underhanded methods.
This game was advertised as such and could have been great but dev decided to focus on dumb shit like the things i mentioned earlier: minigames, chibi graphics and animations, farming money/resources etc.
Thats why Ch3 looks so out of place and is the only decent part of the game - its almost solely about training Ciri to be a sex slave without annoying distractions and grind. The fact that its more hardcore than the rest of the game is just a bonus.
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Akabur's way of doing things(= hiding actual content behind tons of mind numbing, tedious grind) was never good, not 5 years ago and certainly not now - thats why Witch Trainer is practically impossible to play without mods/cheats.

One of the worst let downs in this game is to have the phenomenal magical powers of both a shapeshifter and someone with mind control powers... but to squander it away by only taking a single form and almost no mind control use, and never using these special abilities otherwise when they could be interesting to use.
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Giving a character fantastic superpowers or traits, but then not utilizing this anywhere near to the levels of fun they could be is always a letdown.
Exactly! I cant believe how underutilized those powers are, especially mind control...
 

ElBandarra

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In real life, good and decent girls from good families get into some kind of prostitution (porn, call girls, escorts, get laid with the boss to get a promotion... you name it) every day. Sometimes they do it by their own. Sometimes, they are corrupted by different kind of pimps and corrupters. And I can assure you that none of them use change of bodies, magic, hypnotism or mind control to get into the panties of those girls and convince them to become whores. They mostly use personal appeal, charisma, displays of wealth, promises of love and money and parties with alcohol and cocaine where, usually, girls drink and sniff by themselves, aren´t forced or tricked to.

So, YES, it´s possible to corrupt someone without the elements of this game and all the other games inspired (meaning, plagiarizing) the ones of Akabur. So, it´s possible to make a game of corruption without magic, potions, change of bodies, etc. Example: GOOD GIRL GONE BAD. To say that change of bodies, magic, potions, etc. is the premise of corruption games is absurd.

But again: It's easy to write a scene in which the corrupter uses the body of other character to trick the girl and casts a spell on her to control her mind, trick her to drink some kind of aphrodisiac, hypnotices her or something like that. It's difficult to write a scene in which the corrupter charms his victim by using mostly good lines of dialogue. That's why Good Girl Gone Bad (continuing the example) is a way better and more succesful game than this one, even if the art of this one is way better, since the art of GGGB is just to trace real porn photos.
 
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Kayin

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Really, you don't realize that all that problems come from the initial premise from Akabur's games this one is imitating? All that grinding for earning money and stats, rebuilding buildings, getting clothes or other elements, etc. is already in original Akabur's games as well as the premise of the old fart using magic and other crappy lazy writing resources for getting his way on the girl.
You want a kinkier game? It's OK. I like kinkier too. But it doesn't mean the initial premise is good. It was good five years ago for Akabur. Righ now, is old an boring since there are a lot of games like that.
If someone takes the Akabur Formula and do it well, he's basically sure that he'll get my money. Look at the excellent and finished Orange Trainer or the Ongoing Four Elements Trainer. It's Akabur formula but it works great because even if there is a mini game or two per chapter, the game doesn't lose tracks of itself: being a damn trainer and fuck the girls.

It's like saying Turn based RPG was good 20 years ago and now it's crap, which isn't true (You might dislike Turn Based games, but the core mechanics are solid and work). The base formula is excellent, and there's always room for improvement (Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler managed to undust the experience of an old mechanic).

When minigames are bigger content-wise than the actual trainer and interaction with the girl(s), that's where you start to lose the grasp of your game, and that's what hapenned here.
If it wasn't advertised as a Trainer, but a VN, it would have been fine. But as a trainer, we're near "false advertisment" :)
 

ElBandarra

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One of the things I liked about Witch Trainer (even though Genie is being deceptive) is that it's clear that Hermione LIKES what she is becoming -- she is enjoying it by the end and looks forward to it, being an aggressor herself for what she wants. More of that in these games would be very welcome.
That's the exact definition of "corruption game". At first the "victim" is naive and pure and at the end she's corrupted. That means that she's happy being a slut even in spite of herself. If not, she's not corrupted, but abused, and that's a different kind of game, one that I´m not interested for. I think it's erotic if the "victim" surrenders to her own lust at the end and enjoys doing lewd things and even being abused, but I don´t find it erotic if, at the end, she's just a victim abused against her will.
And, if someone thinks that it makes me a moralist...
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F9Zoney

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so i am confused. i played it through but miss some scenes in gallery and i have no idea what ;_; anyway to unlock gallery by cheat?

edit: my bad you can click on unlock.
 

Tallyhawk

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If someone takes the Akabur Formula and do it well, he's basically sure that he'll get my money. Look at the excellent and finished Orange Trainer or the Ongoing Four Elements Trainer. It's Akabur formula but it works great because even if there is a mini game or two per chapter, the game doesn't lose tracks of itself: being a damn trainer and fuck the girls.

It's like saying Turn based RPG was good 20 years ago and now it's crap, which isn't true (You might dislike Turn Based games, but the core mechanics are solid and work). The base formula is excellent, and there's always room for improvement (Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler managed to undust the experience of an old mechanic).

When minigames are bigger content-wise than the actual trainer and interaction with the girl(s), that's where you start to lose the grasp of your game, and that's what hapenned here.
If it wasn't advertised as a Trainer, but a VN, it would have been fine. But as a trainer, we're near "false advertisment" :)
I agree with you on Orange Trainer, but not with Four Elements. The second part of 4E shows the promise of the game, but the first is basic, the third is EXTREMELY grindy, the fourth is becoming a bit of a disaster...and you also have the issue of at least two female characters being underaged (but that's another story).

But here I think there is a parallel. Both games promise a lot, but both fail that promise to a degree. Ciri Trainer give you a lot of apparent power, but little to really do as the Dec wants to also paint you as a good guy. Orange Trainer avoids this by making you a sleazebag criminal, but never going as far as say, rape. 4E also screws this up by never quite going far enough if youpick the "bad" route, still trying to make you the "hero". Only Book 2 does this RIGHT.

Akabar gets away with his grinds by having decent stories, amazing artwork and never, ever taking himself seriously. "Old Man's" frustrations at taking so long to get laid is played for comedy...and it IS funny. And the most recent episode of Star Channel got him a ton of play, so there is a pay-off.

I have to agree though...the bit of Ciri's capture was the only time I felt like she was being trained as the game promised. The rest is too long, too soft, too vague and too focused on her being a witcher. With the powers promised, you could have had the MC change into people she was attracted too, or into enemies who forced themselves on her or tempted her. You could be monsters who defeat and abuse her, which could lead to sexual training in order to "resist" them, or punishments for failing. There is a lot you can do without even getting into game mechanics that much.
 
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