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Ciaran8023

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Ellen is older than Victoria.
Katie is about 10 years younger than the MC.
Shanlon is not wife material, but her age is close to the MC's too.

It's good to promote this post periodically to refresh our collective memory:
https://f95zone.to/threads/city-of-broken-dreamers-v1-15-0-ch-15-phillygames.25739/post-3489635

PS. It's been 5 years already. Damn, time flies when you are checking porn stuff.
While that may be so, she doesn't act that age which is the main difference. Emotional maturity is a thing in a conversation about age disparity, because when you discuss age disparity you're mainly just talking about the disconnect between the mentality and maturity of two individuals.
 

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While that may be so, she doesn't act that age which is the main difference. Emotional maturity is a thing in a conversation about age disparity, because when you discuss age disparity you're mainly just talking about the disconnect between the mentality and maturity of two individuals.
Ellen has that Rock&Roll type of attitude, but I wouldn't describe her as immature. It's just one side of a character with a more complex personality that shows a little bit more as the story unravels.
I don't need to mention Katie. Doc is brilliant professional with ideals and values who just comes across as very sweet, but not childish or immature despite being in her mid twenties.
Besides, we could discuss the MC's maturity in detail. Actually, one could make the point that even Abby is more mature than him.
Chandra and Gloria are the ones there's no question about.
That's my point of view anyway.
 

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Ellen is older than Victoria.
Katie is about 10 years younger than the MC.
Shanlon is not wife material, but her age is close to the MC's too.

It's good to promote this post periodically to refresh our collective memory:
https://f95zone.to/threads/city-of-broken-dreamers-v1-15-0-ch-15-phillygames.25739/post-3489635

PS. It's been 5 years already. Damn, time flies when you are checking porn stuff.
I never knew about their ages, but If Gloria being 18 is within my expectations (I´d put her between 18-20), I always thought Katie was older and Ellen was younger, but both still in their 20s (late 20s) while Victoria was in her early 30s and Sonja mid to late 30s.
 
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Ellen has that Rock&Roll type of attitude, but I wouldn't describe her as immature. It's just one side of a character with a more complex personality that shows a little bit more as the story unravels.
I don't need to mention Katie. Doc is brilliant professional with ideals and values who just comes across as very sweet, but not childish or immature despite being in her mid twenties.
Besides, we could discuss the MC's maturity in detail. Actually, one could make the point that even Abby is more mature than him.
Chandra and Gloria are the ones there's no question about.
That's my point of view anyway.
Pretty good PoV I'd say!
 

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Abby is more mature than him.
she is one of the characters which are better characterized in this VN from point of view, she is shurely more mature for her age, while Chandra is also good described as overprotected and spoiled, both make a good balance in their story arc.
 
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Ellen has that Rock&Roll type of attitude, but I wouldn't describe her as immature. It's just one side of a character with a more complex personality that shows a little bit more as the story unravels.
I don't need to mention Katie. Doc is brilliant professional with ideals and values who just comes across as very sweet, but not childish or immature despite being in her mid twenties.
Besides, we could discuss the MC's maturity in detail. Actually, one could make the point that even Abby is more mature than him.
Chandra and Gloria are the ones there's no question about.
That's my point of view anyway.
Eh, I've been around plenty of actual artists and she's absolutely immature in a lot of ways. There's no "rock & roll" type attitude there to begin with.
I also straight up never talked about Katie at all, but you do you I guess. What did disqualify her as an LI is the fact that she's entirely pure, has wholesome ambitions and cares way too much for her own good. Matching her up with the MC, being her polar opposite and working a line of work where you never know if you'll find him dead in a ditch somewhere or end up making her more cynical is just cruel and unusual, she doesn't match the MC in any way.

Moreover, MC is mature, he's just broken as fuck and hides it behind a facade of being a cunt. There's a huge difference there. You can see it any time he and Sonja had one of their more serious conversations.

EDIT- I also had no fucking idea that Chandra or Abby would even be counted as LI's, they came off far more as just random side-characters.
 
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Victoria has a verbal style that was taught to her which makes her age a little harder to pin down. I mean, she's clearly meant to wield her sultry and sensual way of speaking as a tool and it's not her natural speech. It loosens a little as time goes by, but not entirely. I figured she's been doing it so long that it's become normal for her. The game mentions a few times that she loses that style and shifts into a mid-west accent, but the actual words out of her mouth at those times still have that sophisticated air to them. She talks more in line with what'd you'd expect from a mid-40s cougar than a 28-29 year old. Her appearance, as well, is pushing a well-groomed mid-30s (which is arguable).
 

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I also had no fucking idea that Chandra or Abby would even be counted as LI's, they came off far more as just random side-characters.
I imagine if Philly wanted to drag it out a bit, Chandra could have easily been flipped into full LI. She had a significant presence, but never enough to impact the story so hard that fleshing her out would have caused a disruption in the story. Every ending has Chandra left in the perfect spot for MC to stand at her side. It's so easy that it makes you wonder if that wasn't planned at some point then scrapped.

Shanlon also had a big presence, but her character's actions were so crucial to the overall story and incompatible with a romance ending. Venus would have been a fun sort of joke ending that wouldn't have required a lot of writing. She was also left wide open.
 

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I imagine if Philly wanted to drag it out a bit, Chandra could have easily been flipped into full LI. She had a significant presence, but never enough to impact the story so hard that fleshing her out would have caused a disruption in the story. Every ending has Chandra left in the perfect spot for MC to stand at her side. It's so easy that it makes you wonder if that wasn't planned at some point then scrapped.

Shanlon also had a big presence, but her character's actions were so crucial to the overall story and incompatible with a romance ending. Venus would have been a fun sort of joke ending that wouldn't have required a lot of writing. She was also left wide open.
You might be on to something, thinking back on it, I can definitely see where Chandra would've been a full LI and I agree that it does feel like it was an initial plan that fell apart. If I had to hazard a guess, she might've been an initial and important vector to get to her mother and had a full LI route planned out, but it ended up pivoting for some reason.

Shanlon definitely felt like she was designed to be the wild card, it feels like her place was set in stone from the beginning since she's, as you said, very crucial to the story.

Venus I feel was a slightly misused potential LI that could've taken a real Blade Runner twist, especially given that she was slowly turning more and more human in her behaviour. I honestly wish there was more exploration along those lines as it would fit so well into the overall future dystopian feel, it would be a pretty nice nod to a great piece of fiction AND be fairly novel within the AVN world.
I still wonder as to why the dev decided to give Venus that twist, it feels more intentional than for her to just be a supporting character.
 
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who are the main love interest(and we can get a proper ending with her)?will all of the main li be shown int the info bar?
 

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Can anyone tell me how many endings there are in total, I used a mod and it ended inexplicably without going down any heroine's route:censored:
 

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If I'm going to go the Victorian ending, do I need to reject other women's routes to get the Victorian ending?
Late in the game, but yes. By the way, if you don't already know, Victoria have 2 paths/endings, so you will need to choose which one you prefer.
 
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