zarqupang

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question can we clean up the city of renpikle and get lester and any other assholes out of the city are make them do as we say. hell let claire help these people and along the way if she want's to have fun lol.
 

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question can we clean up the city of renpikle and get lester and any other assholes out of the city are make them do as we say. hell let claire help these people and along the way if she want's to have fun lol.
Yes, the Thieves' quest line leads to this
 

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Does anybody know how to get the 'Drunken Plutocrat' scene in Valos?
If we are talking about a plutocrat that solicits a waitress in "Cup and Trotter", then to seduce him, you need at least 6 Seduction. There are no requirements for the Depravity to scene itself.
 
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Yes, the Thieves' quest line leads to this
I mean, that was to be expected. The question is how exactly will it end? As far as I can see with the info present in the game, as soon as we get the actual criminals out of the city the mercs will probably ease down a lot, since without the actively corrupting faction in the city the warlord-come-king can actually divert resources to rebuilding the old infrastructure and said warrior-king really doesn't seem to be a malicious person himself. But I also think getting the thugs out is only the halfway point of rathpikes restoration, since because of the recent history there is still a lot of damage to be fixed. Not to mention, restoring the military power of rathpike will probably be pivotal to getting the continent back ironically.

Velos is a bit more complicated. The only thing I can see right now is purging the nobility from the most debauched and corrupted individuals/families. Given that I sided with the doctor, I assume there will be a way involving her and furthering her chimera research. Whilst of questionable morality itself, a chimera army would definitely help in fighting the monster hordes.
 
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I mean, that was to be expected. The question is how exactly will it end? As far as I can see with the info present in the game, as soon as we get the actual criminals out of the city the mercs will probably ease down a lot, since without the actively corrupting faction in the city the warlord-come-king can actually divert resources to rebuilding the old infrastructure and said warrior-king really doesn't seem to be a malicious person himself. But I also think getting the thugs out is only the halfway point of rathpikes restoration, since because of the recent history there is still a lot of damage to be fixed. Not to mention, restoring the military power of rathpike will probably be pivotal to getting the continent back ironically.

Velos is a bit more complicated. The only thing I can see right now is purging the nobility from the most debauched and corrupted individuals/families. Given that I sided with the doctor, I assume there will be a way involving her and furthering her chimera research. Whilst of questionable morality itself, a chimera army would definitely help in fighting the monster hordes.
Certainly. Apart from the bandits, the state of the economy and the welfare of the townspeople is terrible without them. Not to mention the wickedness and destruction that would require Claire's intervention. Most likely, the restoration of military strength and the city in general will be associated with the quest line of mercenaries, because I do not think that it will be associated only with goblins. And sooner or later it will lead us to Zeon himself. In addition, to rebuild the military forces will most likely need an alliance with Trissengrad, because they have the best assassins in the game world. Old Rose may also help. Now she is only interested in casino and some artifacts, but she will most likely have to help rebuild the city.

The main military force of Valos is the fleet, so I think that there will be both a corruption path with chimeras, and a less corrupt one, which will somehow be connected with the city's Magnat and most likely the rangers, even though they are now staying out of politics. Perhaps it turns out that the Magnat is connected with poachers and they want to hold him accountable. In addition, according to the head of the Urchins, the son of this Magnat's family, they have the largest fleet. So I think that the strengthening of Valos is either through horrible experiments, or through some kind of alliance with the plutocrats and putting things in order in their homes, as well as cooperation with the Urchins and rangers.
 

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but in the older version the mercs worked with leester
Only a part of them. Specifically the ones at the mines.

Certainly. Apart from the bandits, the state of the economy and the welfare of the townspeople is terrible without them. Not to mention the wickedness and destruction that would require Claire's intervention. Most likely, the restoration of military strength and the city in general will be associated with the quest line of mercenaries, because I do not think that it will be associated only with goblins. And sooner or later it will lead us to Zeon himself. In addition, to rebuild the military forces will most likely need an alliance with Trissengrad, because they have the best assassins in the game world. Old Rose may also help. Now she is only interested in casino and some artifacts, but she will most likely have to help rebuild the city.
Of course it will. Zeon is the best chance to not being a shithole for rathpike and his main problem with the thiefs is probably that they add to the chaos. If we remove the source of the chaos there will probably be a conciliation between the two, with the maybe soon-to-be former thiefs being the future intelligence and espionage arm of rathpike.

The main military force of Valos is the fleet, so I think that there will be both a corruption path with chimeras, and a less corrupt one, which will somehow be connected with the city's Magnat and most likely the rangers, even though they are now staying out of politics. Perhaps it turns out that the Magnat is connected with poachers and they want to hold him accountable. In addition, according to the head of the Urchins, the son of this Magnat's family, they have the largest fleet. So I think that the strengthening of Valos is either through horrible experiments, or through some kind of alliance with the plutocrats and putting things in order in their homes, as well as cooperation with the Urchins and rangers.
Ahhh, Valos is such a goddamn mess beneath the surface...
If the magnats family is any indication purges will have to be made either way. That's the biggest problem with nobility: No matter how they started, two or three generations in most families become insufferable. I could imagine a combination of your suggested paths in order to get rid of the worst of them, probably through the doctor. If anything the ranger path will probably be a cornerstone to further the chimera experiments, maybe even tampering them to make them less... excessive? Elaborate maybe? But that would also require finding a way to stabilize the doctor and atleast partially mend her trauma, which would also help in salvaging some of the plutocrat families. Frankly, everything in Valos is/will probably be interconnected with each other: Helping one subfaction will open ways to help the others and so on, with the best outcome requiring to progress each route evenly. The Urchins will be difficult to deal with by themselves, since they're a combination of the corruption of both the nobles and the poor and we don't know yet how much worse the head of the Urchins made all of this. Their route might simply involve turning the Urchins from his influence. In the worst case we'll have to sic the town guards on them and work from there. The main point of Valos is to secure the fleet to be able to make landfall on the continent and supply the armies anyway. Unless the monsters build ships/use sea monsters as invasion transports, the firepower of the fleet itself will be irrelevant, which makes actually helping the families optional since most of the merchant fleet is in the hands of civilians, like the skipper that ferries you around.

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Damn I think I lost my train of thought a few times in that last paragraph and forgot some ideas and theories I had, it's fucking late here anyway...
 

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Only a part of them. Specifically the ones at the mines.



Of course it will. Zeon is the best chance to not being a shithole for rathpike and his main problem with the thiefs is probably that they add to the chaos. If we remove the source of the chaos there will probably be a conciliation between the two, with the maybe soon-to-be former thiefs being the future intelligence and espionage arm of rathpike.



Ahhh, Valos is such a goddamn mess beneath the surface...
If the magnats family is any indication purges will have to be made either way. That's the biggest problem with nobility: No matter how they started, two or three generations in most families become insufferable. I could imagine a combination of your suggested paths in order to get rid of the worst of them, probably through the doctor. If anything the ranger path will probably be a cornerstone to further the chimera experiments, maybe even tampering them to make them less... excessive? Elaborate maybe? But that would also require finding a way to stabilize the doctor and atleast partially mend her trauma, which would also help in salvaging some of the plutocrat families. Frankly, everything in Valos is/will probably be interconnected with each other: Helping one subfaction will open ways to help the others and so on, with the best outcome requiring to progress each route evenly. The Urchins will be difficult to deal with by themselves, since they're a combination of the corruption of both the nobles and the poor and we don't know yet how much worse the head of the Urchins made all of this. Their route might simply involve turning the Urchins from his influence. In the worst case we'll have to sic the town guards on them and work from there. The main point of Valos is to secure the fleet to be able to make landfall on the continent and supply the armies anyway. Unless the monsters build ships/use sea monsters as invasion transports, the firepower of the fleet itself will be irrelevant, which makes actually helping the families optional since most of the merchant fleet is in the hands of civilians, like the skipper that ferries you around.

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Damn I think I lost my train of thought a few times in that last paragraph and forgot some ideas and theories I had, it's fucking late here anyway...
But they apparently have ships. The ship that visited the Heartlands and is somehow connected with the goblins, for example. And I don't really like the idea of chimeras. Although, if you turn Lester's gang and related organizations into a chimera, then I can put up with such an army. And then that Gypsy-alchemist can help in stabilizing the experiments, especially since she had already dealt with the demon.
 

zarqupang

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well with any rich people there are bond to be curroption some how. but how to fix the city were there is no curuption at all. easy just remove every rich person who is evil.
 

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So im in a quest where they tell me to find the gravekeeper..so how to find him??
And also i need to find the slime essence to make Chimera ??
 

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So im in a quest where they tell me to find the gravekeeper..so how to find him??
And also i need to find the slime essence to make Chimera ??
Go to the forest with the boars, in the north (the way to the village) there is a cottage near a graveyard. In the cottage, the gravekeeper is playing the piano.
 

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But they apparently have ships. The ship that visited the Heartlands and is somehow connected with the goblins, for example. And I don't really like the idea of chimeras. Although, if you turn Lester's gang and related organizations into a chimera, then I can put up with such an army. And then that Gypsy-alchemist can help in stabilizing the experiments, especially since she had already dealt with the demon.
Well I didn't mean "just turn everyone into chimeras", just people like Lesters gang and the worst of the nobles.

But I know what you mean, that's why an "upgrade" to the chimera idea would be to do it like the demon lords and create entirely new sentient races like centaurs etc. not just amalgamations, though we don't know what races actually exist already. We didn't exactly have time to look through the hordes on the continent. Then again with how it seems to work, turning into a demon lord-esque being could give Claire control over the monsters and with help of various people maybe turn them completely docile. There are a lot of possible solutions to the bigger picture of fighting the monsters.

The Gypsy-alchemist, the ranger tinkerer, maybe even the temple of fertility? There are an aweful lot of people that could help refining the chimera project.

well with any rich people there are bond to be curroption some how. but how to fix the city were there is no curuption at all. easy just remove every rich person who is evil.
That's depending very much on their upbringing, less on the amount of money they have. Rich or poor, there are numerous ways to fuck a child up (if it isn't already fucked up by nature). For example: If you make it a family policy to actually hammer the value of money into your children, instead of giving them everything they want, they tend to be less wasteful with it, regardless of the actual amount of money. Spoiling their children is the main cause of "rich-kid-syndrome".
 
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