Kevin Smarts

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Any of the ones that end with -stan
China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines and most of the Midle East have bans on porn in general but don't end in -stan. The only country to have a ban on porn and endin -stan is Pakistan.
Most of the "stans" are majority Muslim but secular so their government is seperate from the faith and laws aare not shaped by any religious influences.
You really need to educate yourself more before you state things that will not only be wrong but feel a little racist.

Now on to the interesting part, its very hard to argue that a pornographic game is straight porn and some of these countries will allow media that contains pornographic images.

It seems unlikely that Mugwump would have started to make a porn game that uses porn images if they lived somewhere where porn was illegal, especially as they'd played Girl Life extensively beforehand (I hear that game has some porn in it). Not impossible of course, but improbable.
 
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Ok went and updated the 8.4 file with the calcstats issue (took the extra line out that was there) and also updated the base 8.4 to include my edited version of FA80's cheat mod.

This is not whatever cheats Mugwump included, this is based on what FA80 had made, then I just reformatted it and added a few things.

No idea if there is missing images or changes to the "external" locations (the whole alternate reality part of one of the relics) as anything that was included in the full 8.4 zip file is not included in this as its just the main qsp file.

See his last support post for info about the cheat screen and some other support and faq type information.

https://f95zone.to/threads/clean-slate-v0-8-3-mugwump.51109/post-3859841


Sorry for the long file name, but this way you cant confuse what it is.
Linked your update in support post so it doesn't get lost :)
 
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chiyochan

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Just saying a ton of reasons why this game abruptly ended and especially no reasons to his donators. When people just shut their doors like that it sends a bad signal to everybody else who uses donations that other authors might do the same thing and be more hesitant on spending their money.
 
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sneezy_of_tie

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One of the reasons is probably the ever growing number of bugs that still had to be fixed. Mugwump did not like it when I suggested that he'd stop adding new stuff for a while and go through what he had to clean the existing code and fix any problems he'd encounter doing that. He'd do that if it was his job not for something he'd do in his free time.
Anyhow now that the game is put on "Creator Went POOF" I might actually dive in and see how bad it has grown since I suggested that. If I do anything it will be technical only so no extra/new content.
 

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I will say this.. I KNOW there is problems still with the date coding, not having things end properly, or all of a sudden you go into a late night even and the game thinks you are in date. Also.. if you end a date, it doesnt always think you ended the date, so you go to a bar and it thinks you need to return to your date.

Some drinks seem to persist.. the "take a sip" actions even when it should either be a onetime use drink or its from a diff location (like the food court in the mall vs the bar).

The tracking for when you should go to Gyno visits for pregnancy is way off kilter and when you are supposed to do it doesnt flag that day being eligible to go in.

And just math oddities with the weight gain/loss (i dont have a super problem with this myself, but others have mentioned)

The clothing screen sometimes requires you to enter it twice for it to then allow you to update clothing sets (go in, exit, go in and it works).

The handling of the clothing sets now in the gym is a bit off, it sometimes locks you out/up.
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Those are the things I can think of. And even with QSP being relatively easy to read, I am far from any kind of coder to be able to know exactly how to setup the proper arrays and logic for some of what is in there. I have hardset some variables here and there in my own copy, or I change variables with the console cmd line I ripped out of GirlLife and put into the game (console is included in my edit of FA80's cheat mod if anyone is curious), but I dont understand it enough to fix the date and drink logic.
 

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Shame to here this game is no more. I really like it because it was one of a very few that allowed you to fight transformation and still enjoy the game. I will miss it dearly.
 
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sneezy_of_tie

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For more things to be fixed
Bugs:
  1. Minor bug in the alternative/quick start.
    • Inhibition modifier doesn't get added.
      • Did a quick check and that is one ugly workaround Mugwump did, might find more bugs when reordering the scenes to both make the flow logical and reduce the chance of future mistakes.
  2. Wardrobe:
    • No remove option for coat & purse in wardrobe.
    • Donate option outside of Fairhaven.
    • New clothing sets automatically include currently worn jewelry & toys.
      • can be removed manually.
    • Planning outfits without adding an actual outfit (1st row, 3rd slot) can be saved but reported as not saved when trying on that outfit
      • Change to do not allow a save or add warning when inhibition is high and/or exhibitionism is low.
    • When planning outfits it can get sometimes stuck only showing current outfit and not what is on the selected one.
      • Might be the same problem as with 'strip off everything'
    • 'Strip off everything' doesn't work the first time it is used.
    • 'Strip off everything' keeps coat & purse.
    • If the player somehow ends up without an outfit, 'pick something to wear' automatically puts the last worn outfit as the current outfit the player is wearing.
  3. Sex scene choices:
    • While drunk or having high horniness and not attracted to the gender of your partner gives the wrong options.
    • Dominant women deciding to use a strap-on gives the wrong options.
    • Experience for hand/mouth options does not get saved for use in scenes.
  4. Cam girl:
    • While having a penis can start a show while naked
    • While having penis it is possible to remove a dress completely
    • Some interactions leave the player (partially) undressed without the ability to redress
    • Suggest adding an automatic redress when ending a show, this due to the show having a top and bottom option while outfits don't.
  5. Undress functionality
    • Outfits with a skirt or dress when removing top part removes ability to remove lower part.
  6. Time:
    • In general this one is wonky, an example is getting out of bed late going to the Hooters waitress job, putting in the full shift and still having over 80% of the sleep bar.
  7. Own home:
    • If you have no food of the type specified in the Helpful Habit app you still get the hunger bar filled (when fixing perhaps add amount of food left to the daily report).
Minor modifications:
  1. Good Vibrations:
    • Change access requirement to inhibition instead of mental state (femininity).
      • Reason is that some/most of the toys could be used as a guy as well.
  2. Maid
    • Put in a roadblock after Jeffory catches you stealing due to it being unfinished after this.
  3. Casino
    • Put in a roadblock to access due to unfinished state.
To check:
  1. Inhibition:
    • Figure out why inhibition keeps dropping.
      • Might not be a bug.

More to come since this is just the first 4 weeks of a trying to stay male playthrough (with the occasional help from Coretex' cheat sheet to test out more things).
Shame to here this game is no more. I really like it because it was one of a very few that allowed you to fight transformation and still enjoy the game. I will miss it dearly.
Which is why I'm actually willing to clean up the code left behind. Either I get enough inspiration on how to expand the game or maybe someone else will be willing to do so.

coretex:
In the cheat sheet you made you forgot to remove an IIF statement from the trait removal resulting in the minus sign option never showing. The relic power cheat should either only set it to 10 and not enter the relic use scene or add a return location, since exiting the relic use scene dumps you in the bed scene and without the bed scene having a return location you cannot leave it.
 

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For more things to be fixed
Bugs:
  1. ...
  2. Cam girl: While having a penis can start a show while naked
This actually doeesn't need to count as bug.
Many (if not even most) Camgirl-Sites (like Chaturbate and others) have the Category "Trans",
which exactly is the Category into which the Main-Char before full transformation fits (i.e. Breasts together with a Penis)

Of coursse, it would be great to have an own storyyline/own actions for your character being Trans,
that is/are distinct from the one/s you have when your char is a fully female camgirl


  1. Time:
    • In general this one is wonky, an example is getting out of bed late going to the Hooters waitress job, putting in the full shift and still having over 80% of the sleep bar.
Definitely.
It is rather hard to imagine that your character, after 8 hours on his/her feet,
serving guests, still is almost as fresh as short after getting up
 

sneezy_of_tie

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This actually doeesn't need to count as bug.
It is for the next two reasons:
  1. When doing a show the player cannot remove panties (or the lower part of an outfit if they are not wearing panties) when they still have a penis and they can when they have a vagina.
  2. When the player meets only the have boobs requirement for starting to do cam shows while still having a penis the sign up part goes: you can do this without anyone knowing you are not a girl.
The bug fix would be necessary even when adding an in-game explanation (and logic and the right clips) for allowing to cam as trans because IMNSHO the requirements for doing so would be different then for starting out with camming, which a player can start doing as early as the first week.
 

coretex

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I did just throw that relic cheat one in from the orig file since it was there I think mostly for testing. Its original locations probably preserved the "return" logic. So.. yea.. maybe il remove that.
The other trait stuff is all from FA80, didnt really fully test that part.

As for the rest.. yea.. most of that is beyond me. Iv noticed some of the exact same things, and even looking at the code, I can follow some of the logic, but beyond some simple tweaks and modifications of "known working code".. not going to probably be able to do much there.
 

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I did just throw that relic cheat one in from the orig file since it was there I think mostly for testing. Its original locations probably preserved the "return" logic. So.. yea.. maybe il remove that.
The other trait stuff is all from FA80, didnt really fully test that part.

As for the rest.. yea.. most of that is beyond me. Iv noticed some of the exact same things, and even looking at the code, I can follow some of the logic, but beyond some simple tweaks and modifications of "known working code".. not going to probably be able to do much there.
Hi, for the relic cheat... that is probably on me though :) and a typical legacy problem.

When I started the cheat mod (with 0 experience of QSP coding) I used the the ingame relic menu for higher compatibility with new versions (and due lack of knowledge about QSP)... later the mod got (a tiny little bit) more refined but the "return" stayed as a "relic" of the start... and continued to stay :) so, blame on me. :)

Feel free to give a proper design / planning for the whole thing and iron out the crumbled stuff to your liking.
 
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Sorry I never uploaded this earlier. Wanted to wait at least a month of radio silence from dev before providing his last patreon work, and then forgot to add this then. Here is the final 8.4 beta upgrade as well as the 8.4 cheat file the dev made. Here's hoping someone picks up the game where it left off, cause this one quickly beacme one of my favorites.
 

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Sorry I never uploaded this earlier. Wanted to wait at least a month of radio silence from dev before providing his last patreon work, and then forgot to add this then. Here is the final 8.4 beta upgrade as well as the 8.4 cheat file the dev made. Here's hoping someone picks up the game where it left off, cause this one quickly beacme one of my favorites.
Is the cheatmod working for anyone? I got a location not found error upon opening it. The unmodded 0.8.4 works fine though.

EDIT: Followed Cabblebunny's advise below and got it to work.
 
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It is for the next two reasons:
  1. When doing a show the player cannot remove panties (or the lower part of an outfit if they are not wearing panties) when they still have a penis and they can when they have a vagina.
  2. When the player meets only the have boobs requirement for starting to do cam shows while still having a penis the sign up part goes: you can do this without anyone knowing you are not a girl.
The bug fix would be necessary even when adding an in-game explanation (and logic and the right clips) for allowing to cam as trans because IMNSHO the requirements for doing so would be different then for starting out with camming, which a player can start doing as early as the first week.
There are actual files with mc self sucking themselves as trans. I dont remember if they were for masturbating or for camgirl, though.
 
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