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VN Ren'Py Cléo Torres: The Dance of Life [v1.1.3-snapshot.3] [Static Fast Art]

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staticfastart

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I really appreciate your feedbacks guys.

The thing is I don't wanna make "the usual" avn. I know some scenarios or paths may be "unavoidable cliché" but what I'm trying to do is exactly what wildride69 said: breaking some rules.

And this is where things some of you may not like take place:
  • Stop thinking about DAY 1, DAY 2 and things like that. All these things happened just in one day and the day is not over yet. If you think it outside of the usual POV, everything happened to Cléo in just one day is nothing impossible. She went to gym, came back home, met a friend, worked a couple hours in a pub and she's gonna end her day with... <someone of your choice>
  • Choices are crucial. Most of the choices you're gonna take are of the kind "take it or leave it". Story changes a lot depending on what you chose.
  • If you think too many things happened on her first day, again, stop thinking about days. Next release is gonna end her first day but if you think it this way you're playing it wrong. Play the game several times, change your choices, see how things could evolve just by taking another decision and you'll see how this is not just a 1 day game but maybe a 3 or 4 possible different days put together.
  • About the choices: sometimes you'll find some of them disabled because of your decency or resistance levels. The "in heat" mood you talked about is already there but remember, Cléo is a "princess" ;)
Regards,
SFA
 

wildride69

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You might have some luck requesting one? I think fan signatures get better traction in the GFX requests.
Thanks for the heads up I finally got around to making the request and I have my fingers crossed they come back with a hot signature for the lovely Cleo.

Much Appreciated.
 
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sweetbrillant

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A very interesting gameplay and different routes but I would prefer a slow burn corruption.
For example for the bar scene with two guys, just sitting on guy's lap and allowing them to have a better feel of her would be enough but fingers in both holes and no intermediate challanges to stop it is a little bit too much in my opinion.
 

HikBenAkk

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Nope. Geek always say it. But they not DO it. Those who want to be like Iron Arnie gone to gym. Geeks love watching Conan the Barbarian, Gandalf, and Obi Wan Kenobi because they want a loving sugar daddy )
Hi Losersriot

There are as many kinds of geeks as... geeks in fact ^^
You said nope ? Prove it... I do not say you are wrong either for the same reason... ;)

Anyway, what you quoted from me is just to give an example and i said it is to tease, I do not take it as that serious ^^...
My reply was focused on the fact the type of content provided by this game is not a problem...

Best regards.
 
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HikBenAkk

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1) I prefer to Lose to activate slut mode. Let the I want her an innocent virgin people struggle to win mini games. The way it is now is perfect.
2) Content is the way the dev wants it to be and it feels great to play a VN that doesn't follow all the regular rules. It's refreshing all of this happened in one day.
3) Choices are fine the way they are. The only thing your suggestion will do is to make this VN unnecessarily grindy.
4) The Dev should maintain the story he wants to tell and his subscribers request on Subscribestar.

Those are your opinions, and these are my opinions.
Hi wildride69,

As often : if I could agree with you more than 100% I would there. ;)

I just want to add something to back your post...
First, I do not feel the minigames to be annoying to play : they are short... they rather show how arousal grow in Cleo in events showing the meter one)

trainindicator I disagree with you about inverting the minigames (the minigame with cursor looping from left to right).
The fail is now Cloe to give in her lust...
It has a meaning about storytelling : it means she give in more easily than she resists to her arousal. if you invert it, you make it more difficult to have her give in (get horny) and easier to resist... It is not the same... It is a choice only staticfastart, as the dev, is legit to make about Cloe's corruption and character : when involved in a sexual event, is she easily tempted or not ? And so far, by playing the last update, we know what staticfastart decided...

Best regards.
 

Nalogan

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I've played all routes and try with all different decisions. It is a verry good game with beautiful renders , story and content so far.
My favor rout is with Hugo and i'm eager to see how far Cleo let him know her better :devilish:
 

robin312

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staticfastart I think I found a bug. For some season first minigame often behaves like I pressed something during its execution, but I didn't and then push me to the wrong event branch
 

Ceesko

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Dear dev staticfastart I am currently silver patron but I will subscribe to platinum with next release.

I like your game but I believe the writing could be more fleshed out. First of all, Cleo is being presented as someone who is extremely desirable and all the guys (and lesbians) want to get with her. In that case she should not be present in the thoughts of guys just as a simple lay, but as desirable girlfriend.

Tough guys like Dylan would not be simply content with fucking cleo, but to actively be possessive of her , and make her his. He would be chasing other guys away and trying to make her his girlfriend. It is the biggest ego booster for any guy to have a girl like this as girlfriend.

Guys should be more possessive of cleo and want her all for themselves. I would like to see more guys have fights over cleo.

In reality a girl like this in a rundown town like that and all the guys would be plotting to get that girl as their girlfriend, not simply to fuck her.
 
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BlandChili

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I thought this game was a pretty decent experience. I'm not so much into overt rape, but with the way the mini games works I kinda like the mechanic of resistance, that the emphasis is more on Cleo resisting her own urges.

I was rather surprised at how guarded the scenes ended up being of Cleo's virginity.

The scene in the bar with the two blokes would have been more interesting if I had to play the resist-mini game to avoid Cleo getting penetrated, it'd have been hotter to be able to throw caution to the wind and not care about the silly virginity in the throes of physical passion.

There was also the scene with the two randos after the gym, if you took the bus. I was annoyed Scarface was shoved into that route anyway, even though I specifically chose not to take his ride on the way to the gym. I think there should have been a resistance game here too, where Cleo could lose herself to those two men, or get away if you resist them that final time.

It'd have been a more fun introduction if I could fail to preserve her virginity for the very first chapter, or just chose to lose it intentionally.

I think it's most fun when the player gets to choose to stop a scene short, instead of happenstance coming in to "save the day" constantly.

6/10 so far and put on watch for the future.
 

wildride69

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I thought this game was a pretty decent experience. I'm not so much into overt rape, but with the way the mini games works I kinda like the mechanic of resistance, that the emphasis is more on Cleo resisting her own urges.

I was rather surprised at how guarded the scenes ended up being of Cleo's virginity.

The scene in the bar with the two blokes would have been more interesting if I had to play the resist-mini game to avoid Cleo getting penetrated, it'd have been hotter to be able to throw caution to the wind and not care about the silly virginity in the throes of physical passion.

There was also the scene with the two randos after the gym, if you took the bus. I was annoyed Scarface was shoved into that route anyway, even though I specifically chose not to take his ride on the way to the gym. I think there should have been a resistance game here too, where Cleo could lose herself to those two men, or get away if you resist them that final time.

It'd have been a more fun introduction if I could fail to preserve her virginity for the very first chapter, or just chose to lose it intentionally.

I think it's most fun when the player gets to choose to stop a scene short, instead of happenstance coming in to "save the day" constantly.

6/10 so far and put on watch for the future.
I'm not one for super slow games with no sex, but even I would say that was a bit to early in this VN's life to have her lose her V card especially to two morons on a couch. I really like the skillful manipulative way the bar owner stepped in and is preparing to sell her off without her consent or knowledge. Hopefully he will be really deceitful and devious to really bring the wait home when he does manage to complete the transaction and starts to increase Cleo's debauchery.

Even her roommate would be a better choice than the two couch bros, as she seems like she has been manipulating Cleo for quite some time now. It could be fun to watch her takeover Cleo's world and also debauch and trade her to others. She obvious takes joy and satisfaction in manipulating Cleo.

This VN has a lot of Potential I hope it develops in an amazing way. (y)
 

BlandChili

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I'm not one for super slow games with no sex, but even I would say that was a bit to early in this VN's life to have her lose her V card especially to two morons on a couch. I really like the skillful manipulative way the bar owner stepped in and is preparing to sell her off without her consent or knowledge. Hopefully he will be really deceitful and devious to really bring the wait home when he does manage to complete the transaction and starts to increase Cleo's debauchery.

Even her roommate would be a better choice than the two couch bros, as she seems like she has been manipulating Cleo for quite some time now. It could be fun to watch her takeover Cleo's world and also debauch and trade her to others. She obvious takes joy and satisfaction in manipulating Cleo.

This VN has a lot of Potential I hope it develops in an amazing way. (y)
I guess, ultimately it'd be up to the player though. I just find it dull to have scenes with such good progression that ultimately fall short.
 
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HikBenAkk

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Dear dev staticfastart I am currently silver patron but I will subscribe to platinum with next release.

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Tough guys like Dylan would not be simply content with fucking cleo, but to actively be possessive of her , and make her his. He would be chasing other guys away and trying to make her his girlfriend. It is the biggest ego booster for any guy to have a girl like this as girlfriend.

Guys should be more possessive of cleo and want her all for themselves. I would like to see more guys have fights over cleo.

In reality a girl like this in a rundown town like that and all the guys would be plotting to get that girl as their girlfriend, not simply to fuck her.
Hi Ceesko

In reality ?

I disagree...

You really think it is more realistic that guys, like those in this game seemingly coming from shady places, prefer all to open a love relationship with girls like Cleo they barely know rather than just fuck her one night or two ?... Please don't take it the wrong way but it's a bit naive imho. ^^!
You really think they cannot even sometimes act like the jerks shown so far in the game? ^^!

Guys that want to make a girl their girlfriend usually start by talking to her to know her a bit better : it would be a disappointment if the girl is not what they're hoping for ^^
And such guys are usually not the underground thugs we saw so far in the game...

I would agree with you if you said that Cleo may meet one of two guys the way you said... but all of them ? 100% unrealistic...
And btw, it is a good idea to make some guys have a crush on Cleo...
But in that case, I just wish to have the option to have Cleo not bound to them and happily enjoy her lust :devilish:

I know some stories (not from here) in which the girl is targeted by guys wanting to marry her... Despite the girl is not dumb (she is able to lead her life), she is the target and undergoes events : in fact this does not flesh out the story any more than what we have at the moment in this game...

Anyway, the most important : As I said above all that is a decision only staticfastart can make and we have no right to question his decisions about such matter...

Best regards.
 
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LordWanze

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I guess, ultimately it'd be up to the player though. I just find it dull to have scenes with such good progression that ultimately fall short.
Reading the comments about her v-card is so refreshing, considering my playthrough kept her a virgin by choice.
Really like the extreme branching, but will it be possible to maintain such a big difference in the story forward?

I really hope so because Cléo is worth it.
 
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staticfastart

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Hi guys, thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me. As I said many times it helps me making a better game.
I’m always open to talk about new ideas and suggestions.

The truth is making a decent game is really really hard. You need to be good in storytelling, 3D rendering and animations, coding and above all you need to be great in imagining how the story could evolve in the future. For each decision the player takes there should be a consequence and it shouldn’t be a pointless one or the player will end skipping all the dialogues just to see the next animation (can you relate?)

So, I’m telling you this because of what Ceesko and BlandChili said.

About Clèo being the girlfriend anybody would love to have: yes, that’s exactly how someone like Dylan or Gwen sees Clèo (even if Dylan starts the chapter acting touchy with her and Gwen meets Clèo at the Red Fox, they are (or gonna be) the romantic types).
If Clèo is gonna give them a chance they’re gonna fight to protect the treasure they got.
At the same time tho, they are not so desperate to run after someone who doesn’t show interest for them. Dylan indeed cancels their date if
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About Clèo losing her virginity: that’s something I spent a lot of time overthinking about. It’s a very important topic for a girl, even more for a girl of her age. The more the time passes by the more this topic may become an obsession for someone like Clèo. Losing her virginity it’s something that deserves the right importance and I didn’t wanna burn that card, as wildride69 said, so early and in that way.
It’s awesome to see how some of you complained about “too much happened in just one day!” and some others about the contrary
if you take a closer look, all they’ve done was just jerking off…. Wildly ok, but still that was it.

About telling me how things should go: guys, would you watch a movie after telling the producer how every single thing should look like and the way each actor should perform and such? I mean… are you really into hardcore spoilering or what? Idk maybe it’s a new kind of fetish eheh
Jokes apart, I love hearing your suggestions but I like them more when you give me the freedom to surprise you. Tell me where you’d like to see the MC or in which context but avoid telling me what should happen and what each character should do and things like that. I think it would kill everything together with my will to share ideas with you. I don’t wanna be a ghost who shows up once a month talking about little updates or on release day. Talking with you and reading your feedbacks is what really motivates me on keep going.

Regards,
SFA
 
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