don't blame ya that game is kinda mid besides the "Alice model" stuff. I too prefer this game even tho I have a shit memory and need to replay it haha. But had no idea they started development about the same time.
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+ minor choices which raise Elsa & Alice points.
Therefore, in my opinion we have 3 paths, at the moment:
- a Lucy path (a dead end in my opinion)
- an Elsa-Alice rivalry path where you score Elsa and Alice points (main path)
- an Emma path variation (if you don't lend your scooter)
In my personal opinion, Lucy is a false flag and big scene variations are right/wrong choices: you are supposed to ignore Lucy when you meet her with the other guy and you're supposed to lend your scooter.
Oh, and you're supposed to be nice with Emma's secretary, of course.
I guess time will tell.
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Well, like you said, it's all just subjective, mostly it depends on your preferences and expectations.
For example, I think Lucy is a nice girl, and despite being a dead end (according to your opinion) she has more screen time so far than Alice, who is supposed to be or rather IS a catalyst for a whole story.
If there will will be any path for Lucy, it will be my second route after the main one with Elsa.
Agree about a probable rival path Elsa/Alice, though, I am not really interested in Alice, so, no rival path for me
Even though at the moment MC is obsessed with Alice, I think (or rather hope) that at some moment he will have some kind of revelation that the world doesn't revolve around her. By that moment he will get over his anxiety and will be more confident, I mean, he already is, Elsa did a great job.
There is also a secretary with some RP points as well. So there might as well be one more path.
Anyways, whatever story will bring, I am sure it will be interesting.
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I don't think there are an Alice and an Elsa path, at the moment.Well, like you said, it's all just subjective, mostly it depends on your preferences and expectations.
For example, I think Lucy is a nice girl, and despite being a dead end (according to your opinion) she has more screen time so far than Alice, who is supposed to be or rather IS a catalyst for a whole story.
If there will will be any path for Lucy, it will be my second route after the main one with Elsa.
Agree about a probable rival path Elsa/Alice, though, I am not really interested in Alice, so, no rival path for me
Even though at the moment MC is obsessed with Alice, I think (or rather hope) that at some moment he will have some kind of revelation that the world doesn't revolve around her. By that moment he will get over his anxiety and will be more confident, I mean, he already is, Elsa did a great job.
There is also a secretary with some RP points as well. So there might as well be one more path.
Anyways, whatever story will bring, I am sure it will be interesting.
I was talking about how your gameplay choices trigger different scenes.
I'd say we have (well, this happens in every VN, I guess):
- choices that raise variable points and trigger different variant dialogues;
- choices that don't raise any variable point but trigger different variant dialogues only;
- choices that trigger / don't trigger a scene;
- choices that trigger different scenes.
We'll see what will happen with the secretary.
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No wonder. It's very, very cute and sweet IMHO.
Lucy was never going to be a path. The game would not be called Corporate Culture is she was truly a meaningful choice. If MC became serious about Lucy, the whole focus of the game would have to shift away from the corporate stuff.
Hooking up with Emma is a backward step in terms of climbing the corporate culture ladder. He's already outplayed her. (Emma is the former boss, right? If I messed that up, oops)
Elsa won't hook up with Edward. She has a goal and won't be sidetracked from it. And she currently sees him as a useful idiot. She is using him to accomplish something. And as I've said before, I assume what she wants to accomplish will be counter to what MC wants to accomplish at some point. And if he is still listening to her blindly when that happens, she will grind him to dust and not look back. She is not a LI.
Emma's secretary has some sidegirl potential and that kind of behavior fits the name of the game.
Hooking up with Emma is a backward step in terms of climbing the corporate culture ladder. He's already outplayed her. (Emma is the former boss, right? If I messed that up, oops)
Elsa won't hook up with Edward. She has a goal and won't be sidetracked from it. And she currently sees him as a useful idiot. She is using him to accomplish something. And as I've said before, I assume what she wants to accomplish will be counter to what MC wants to accomplish at some point. And if he is still listening to her blindly when that happens, she will grind him to dust and not look back. She is not a LI.
Emma's secretary has some sidegirl potential and that kind of behavior fits the name of the game.
I do disagree about Elsa still 100%, I think Elsa is gonna heavily depend on the taking the right choices and gonna be harder to romance but I just don't see why she would not be a LI at all unless the dev takes choices away from the player. She just seems like the obvious troupe you see in some TV shows where a MC is gunning for a certain girl but then realizes at some point of who has been infront of him the entire time. Then the MC stops going for said girls he's been after the entire show and starts to romance his friend. I can understand why she doesn't seem like she would be a LI from a story point of view but that could easily change in a blink of an eye. But like I said before who knows either one of us could be right or wrong nothing is set in stone yet and only the dev knows
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Because she is written as someone utterly uninterested in any romance. And the MC is no Don Juan, capable of changing Elsa's mind about why romance is the right option for her.
That trope doesn't usually start from a character who has interest in romance. That trope is usually the woman who actually cares for the MC and is waiting for his eyes to open. Elsa doesn't care about the MC long term. He is a means to an end.
I don't believe Elsa is MC's friend. Elsa is too Machiavellian to have friends.
This only makes sense if you accept that the story so far can just be invalidated. I feel Elsa being LI material requires Elsa to be hit in the head by a falling object and being in a coma for 8 months, returning to the story with a completely different personality.
In any case, I think my views of Elsa have probably been repeated too many times. Sorry if I've become boring.
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Last update was in October. I can't believe they voted for 2 (at least) more development months - this is completely insane.
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Normally, I would opt for the developer finishing up what he had planned, but it sounded like he needed a break, and requiring that he keep working won't give him any break. I'm rather surprised (and disappointed) that the Patrons didn't consider the developer's well-being when casting their votes.
I mean, they're the ones paying...
Honestly, this dev is at least moving forward and keeps people informed of his progress, so it's not like he's not doing shit... every single fuckin AVN gets development cycle creep, that's how it goes =/
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On the contrary, nearly all comments are of the "I voted for day 4 because I'm happy to wait, but do what's best for yourself" variety.
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He should be adult enough to make the decision himself to take a break if he really needs it without asking patrons, just informing them
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Honestly, take ur time to make it a decent update so we can appreciate what we all are waiting for... but... sweet but... no-one would mind to see some little one render sneak of Elsa or other babes once in a month or so... that would keep this topic alive and all fans even more hyped for update. Cheers
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Hello,
Target is OK.
Week. Continued working on last scene of Day 3 this week. Everything went well.
There's one sub-scene where I'm not happy with the lighting. It's ambient lighting, and it kind of has to be flat, and when it's flat, I don't like it, and when it's not flat, it doesn't make sense. I'll revisit it later. There are only two light sources; it shouldn't take too much time to adjust.
The other sub-scenes turned out fine, even better when fine. I wonder when adding British street furniture to give a scene the right feel will get old. Not yet.
Progress. The work on Day 3 has been completed.
Now Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 are completed. I have a bit under 1100 shots, 600+ rendered.
Rendering. It's slow and doesn't have a lot of time to render, at the moment. It won't be able to catch up with the queue during the development phase, and it will take a couple of undisturbed weeks to render everything.
I adjusted some quality sliders and put more effort into optimizing scenes in this update. It worked to some extent, but It doesn't make sense to squeeze it harder. It's more of a hardware issue already.
Thanks for your time.
See you.
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That took unexpected turn.
Patrons aren't pressuring me into additional work. All their comments were extremely supportive, thoughtful, and made emphasis on taking as much time as needed. Half of the reason why the game is still running, is because many of them went out of their way to make sure it's running, supporting it and helping me beyond what you could expect.
If the update is delayed, it will be delayed because of me, not because of vote or anything else. I'm the culprit behind delays, I am and a cruel, cruel world, sometimes.
Part you're talking about was there to give as good picture as possible to people who have been funding it, show where things might go wrong and explain why we even discussing a reduced version.
It wasn't a quirky attempt at asking for a break either. I'm no stranger to hiatuses and I still remember where's stop billing button. If I need a break, I'll press it.
Appreciate the concern and engagement in the project though.
Patrons aren't pressuring me into additional work. All their comments were extremely supportive, thoughtful, and made emphasis on taking as much time as needed. Half of the reason why the game is still running, is because many of them went out of their way to make sure it's running, supporting it and helping me beyond what you could expect.
If the update is delayed, it will be delayed because of me, not because of vote or anything else. I'm the culprit behind delays, I am and a cruel, cruel world, sometimes.
Part you're talking about was there to give as good picture as possible to people who have been funding it, show where things might go wrong and explain why we even discussing a reduced version.
It wasn't a quirky attempt at asking for a break either. I'm no stranger to hiatuses and I still remember where's stop billing button. If I need a break, I'll press it.
Appreciate the concern and engagement in the project though.
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I don't know about others, but that one refuses to get undressed even for the good of the project.
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I think we all agree on the fact that everybody who posts in this thread really loves your work.