VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.7] [sqwl]

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Jericho85

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Saying a girl is not a LI yet is trigerring me. A girl is a LI from the start or never at all. LI = Love Interest, not girlfriend; i.e. the MC is interested to romance her whether she reciprocates or not (depending on choices)
I disagree. I think it's important to consider the relationship element. I could agree with what you're saying from a meta sense (like "This VN has 10 planned LIs, etc.."), but in a narrative sense I think it matters quite a bit when a female character becomes romanceable when considering whether she's an active love interest. Certain character behaviors and tropes classify differently when she's single versus when she's romantically involved with the MC. In the context of "Forced LIs", the relationship definitely matters. A forced love interest is one who is in a romantic relationship with the MC without player input (ex: Veronica in Race of Life)

Also, by ignoring the relationship element is how people start misunderstanding (and hotly debating) certain oft-misunderstood three-letter tropes.

So whichever way you consider when a character becomes a "love interest", my point in context to the conversation and the story is that Alice is not yet romanceable. MC is firmly in the friendzone with her right now and we have no indication that Alice even considers Eddie as a sexual partner yet. So we can't say that romancing her is "forced" because the romance hasn't even happened yet.
 

Jacowboy

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Saying a girl is not a LI yet is trigerring me. A girl is a LI from the start or never at all. LI = Love Interest, not girlfriend; i.e. the MC is interested to romance her whether she reciprocates or not (depending on choices)
Jericho did a great job at explaining it probably better and with less sarcasm than I would've... But yeah, in "AVN terms", a LI is something specific...

And sure, for Edward within the context of the story, she def. is a love interest... but for US the PLAYERS, she is not in that commonly used sense, at least not yet (she might never be for all we know)... and let's not rehash the "forced" thing...
 
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MagicShoppe

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MC isn't interested in Elsa as a LI, he isn't interested in Lucy as a LI, He isn't interested in Zoe as a LI. He is interested in Alice. And only Alice. The player cannot choose to abandon MC's interest in Alice. That is the story.
 

Dessolos

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MC isn't interested in Elsa as a LI, he isn't interested in Lucy as a LI, He isn't interested in Zoe as a LI. He is interested in Alice. And only Alice. The player cannot choose to abandon MC's interest in Alice. That is the story.
Yes in the story so far but that doesn't mean they won't be a LI. Something could happen and the MC could realize what's been infront of him this entire time ( Elsa). Also you do not know the player cannot choice another LI later down the road just like I don't know either only the dev does. Until there is a romance that starts there is no clear answer if others will be available as a LI. Even then it isn't clear either cause who knows the dev could throw us a curveball and he starts to hate Alice or she is totally a different person when a relationship starts and perhaps we get a choice to dump her or not. There is to many possibilities to say for sure Alice is the only LI. She is just the only LI that the MC is interested in the story and that's it nothing is set in stone.
 

as22

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And sure, for Edward within the context of the story, she def. is a love interest... but for US the PLAYERS, she is not in that commonly used sense, at least not yet (she might never be for all we know)... and let's not rehash the "forced" thing...
We don't play as ourselves with a namable character that's made to self insert without agency. The male MC has a name and a story. This is Edwards story, not ours. We're mearly reading it.
 

Dessolos

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We don't play as ourselves with a namable character that's made to self insert without agency. The male MC has a name and a story. This is Edwards story, not ours. We're mearly reading it.
Yes but our choices can be influenced on ourself. So it's really 1/2 Edwards story and 1/2 ours unless you put yourself in the MC's shoes
 

Jumbi

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hey everyone...I just started playing and I noticed that Alice looks like the beautiful CeCe from the leap of faith? it's a very nice surprise...has anyone else noticed?
Yeah. The first time I played the game, I was like: It's Cece! I'm pretty sure that most people have noticed it like you and me, since the other game is very popular and so is Cece. Hence my laughing reaction to your comment.

For those of you curious about the art assets used in the game, the 3D figure behind Cece and Alice is Cherubit's .
 

Walter Victor

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Yeah. The first time I played the game, I was like: It's Cece! I'm pretty sure that most people have noticed it like you and me, since the other game is very popular and so is Cece. Hence my laughing reaction to your comment.

For those of you curious about the art assets used in the game, the 3D figure behind Cece and Alice is Cherubit's .
That model is indeed popular among developers. Having looked at the examples in that link, I'll bet I've seen it in literally dozens of games here on F95.
 

Ottoeight

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When I saw Alice, as well, I thought is Cece, but I know her model is used in quite a few games.
Both Authors started their game's development at the same time.

Corporate Culture is a favourite of mine. Leap of Faith? well, I never went past the first burger joint scene in the very beginning.

So, if I saw this Cece of yours I'd say: "hey, it's Alice!".
 
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