VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.7] [sqwl]

[Dessolos]

Lucy was never going to be a path. The game would not be called Corporate Culture is she was truly a meaningful choice. If MC became serious about Lucy, the whole focus of the game would have to shift away from the corporate stuff.

Hooking up with Emma is a backward step in terms of climbing the corporate culture ladder. He's already outplayed her. (Emma is the former boss, right? If I messed that up, oops)

Elsa won't hook up with Edward. She has a goal and won't be sidetracked from it. And she currently sees him as a useful idiot. She is using him to accomplish something. And as I've said before, I assume what she wants to accomplish will be counter to what MC wants to accomplish at some point. And if he is still listening to her blindly when that happens, she will grind him to dust and not look back. She is not a LI.

Emma's secretary has some sidegirl potential and that kind of behavior fits the name of the game.

I do disagree about Elsa still 100%, I think Elsa is gonna heavily depend on the taking the right choices and gonna be harder to romance but I just don't see why she would not be a LI at all unless the dev takes choices away from the player. She just seems like the obvious troupe you see in some TV shows where a MC is gunning for a certain girl but then realizes at some point of who has been infront of him the entire time. Then the MC stops going for said girls he's been after the entire show and starts to romance his friend. I can understand why she doesn't seem like she would be a LI from a story point of view but that could easily change in a blink of an eye. But like I said before who knows either one of us could be right or wrong nothing is set in stone yet and only the dev knows

 

[MagicShoppe]

But like I said before who knows either one of us could be right or wrong nothing is set in stone yet and only the dev knows

Yes, this text should be on every page of this forum.

I do disagree about Elsa still 100%, I think Elsa is gonna heavily depend on the taking the right choices and gonna be harder to romance but I just don't see why she would not be a LI at all unless the dev takes choices away from the player.

Because she is written as someone utterly uninterested in any romance. And the MC is no Don Juan, capable of changing Elsa's mind about why romance is the right option for her.

She just seems like the obvious troupe you see in some TV shows where a MC is gunning for a certain girl but then realizes at some point of who has been infront of him the entire time.

That trope doesn't usually start from a character who has interest in romance. That trope is usually the woman who actually cares for the MC and is waiting for his eyes to open. Elsa doesn't care about the MC long term. He is a means to an end.

Then the MC stops going for said girls he's been after the entire show and starts to romance his friend.

I don't believe Elsa is MC's friend. Elsa is too Machiavellian to have friends.

I can understand why she doesn't seem like she would be a LI from a story point of view but that could easily change in a blink of an eye.

This only makes sense if you accept that the story so far can just be invalidated. I feel Elsa being LI material requires Elsa to be hit in the head by a falling object and being in a coma for 8 months, returning to the story with a completely different personality.

In any case, I think my views of Elsa have probably been repeated too many times. Sorry if I've become boring.

 

[HiP1]

We can't customize MC's name ? this game starts like a kinetic novel.

 

[Ottoeight]

End it on Day 3. Sooner release.
24%


Continue working on Day 4. Approximately, +1.5 months to release date.
76%

Last update was in October. I can't believe they voted for 2 (at least) more development months - this is completely insane.

 

[Abhai]

Last update was in October. I can't believe they voted for 2 (at least) more development months - this is completely insane.

patreonrules!

 

[Walter Victor]

Last update was in October. I can't believe they voted for 2 (at least) more development months - this is completely insane.

Normally, I would opt for the developer finishing up what he had planned, but it sounded like he needed a break, and requiring that he keep working won't give him any break. I'm rather surprised (and disappointed) that the Patrons didn't consider the developer's well-being when casting their votes.

 

[Jacowboy]

Last update was in October. I can't believe they voted for 2 (at least) more development months - this is completely insane.

I mean, they're the ones paying...

Honestly, this dev is at least moving forward and keeps people informed of his progress, so it's not like he's not doing shit... every single fuckin AVN gets development cycle creep, that's how it goes =/

 

[jufot]

I'm rather surprised (and disappointed) that the Patrons didn't consider the developer's well-being when casting their votes.

On the contrary, nearly all comments are of the "I voted for day 4 because I'm happy to wait, but do what's best for yourself" variety.

 

[Dessolos]

yeah if I was a patron id vote sooner as it seems like he needs that break

 

[dolfe67]

He should be adult enough to make the decision himself to take a break if he really needs it without asking patrons, just informing them

 

[Tony_Soprano]

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Hello,

Target is OK.
Week. Continued working on last scene of Day 3 this week. Everything went well.
There's one sub-scene where I'm not happy with the lighting. It's ambient lighting, and it kind of has to be flat, and when it's flat, I don't like it, and when it's not flat, it doesn't make sense. I'll revisit it later. There are only two light sources; it shouldn't take too much time to adjust.
The other sub-scenes turned out fine, even better when fine. I wonder when adding British street furniture to give a scene the right feel will get old. Not yet.
Progress. The work on Day 3 has been completed.
Now Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 are completed. I have a bit under 1100 shots, 600+ rendered.
Rendering. It's slow and doesn't have a lot of time to render, at the moment. It won't be able to catch up with the queue during the development phase, and it will take a couple of undisturbed weeks to render everything.
I adjusted some quality sliders and put more effort into optimizing scenes in this update. It worked to some extent, but It doesn't make sense to squeeze it harder. It's more of a hardware issue already.

Thanks for your time.
See you.

Honestly, take ur time to make it a decent update so we can appreciate what we all are waiting for... but... sweet but... no-one would mind to see some little one render sneak of Elsa or other babes once in a month or so... that would keep this topic alive and all fans even more hyped for update. Cheers

 

[sqwl]

That took unexpected turn.

Patrons aren't pressuring me into additional work. All their comments were extremely supportive, thoughtful, and made emphasis on taking as much time as needed. Half of the reason why the game is still running, is because many of them went out of their way to make sure it's running, supporting it and helping me beyond what you could expect.

If the update is delayed, it will be delayed because of me, not because of vote or anything else. I'm the culprit behind delays, I am and a cruel, cruel world, sometimes.

Part you're talking about was there to give as good picture as possible to people who have been funding it, show where things might go wrong and explain why we even discussing a reduced version.
It wasn't a quirky attempt at asking for a break either. I'm no stranger to hiatuses and I still remember where's stop billing button. If I need a break, I'll press it.

Appreciate the concern and engagement in the project though.

 

[sqwl]

render sneak of Elsa

I don't know about others, but that one refuses to get undressed even for the good of the project.

 

[Ottoeight]

That took unexpected turn.

Patrons aren't pressuring me into additional work. All their comments were extremely supportive, thoughtful, and made emphasis on taking as much time as needed. Half of the reason why the game is still running, is because many of them went out of their way to make sure it's ruining, supporting it and helping me beyond what you could expect.

If the update is delayed, it will be delayed because of me, not because of vote or anything else. I'm the culprit behind delays, I am and a cruel, cruel world, sometimes.

Part you're talking about was there to give as good picture as possible to people who have been funding it, show where things might go wrong and explain why we even discussing a reduced version.
It wasn't a quirky attempt at asking for a break either. I'm no stranger to hiatuses and I still remember where's stop billing button. If I need a break, I'll press it.

Appreciate the concern and engagement in the project though.

I think we all agree on the fact that everybody who posts in this thread really loves your work.

 

[jtc]

I do disagree about Elsa still 100%, I think Elsa is gonna heavily depend on the taking the right choices and gonna be harder to romance but I just don't see why she would not be a LI at all unless the dev takes choices away from the player. She just seems like the obvious troupe you see in some TV shows where a MC is gunning for a certain girl but then realizes at some point of who has been infront of him the entire time.

Right, that's basic media literacy. She's definitely one of the two main love interests, I feel people who see her as nothing but a cold, manipulative bitch are projecting a bit too much.

 

[HiP1]

Elsa won't hook up with Edward. She has a goal and won't be sidetracked from it. And she currently sees him as a useful idiot. She is using him to accomplish something. And as I've said before, I assume what she wants to accomplish will be counter to what MC wants to accomplish at some point. And if he is still listening to her blindly when that happens, she will grind him to dust and not look back. She is not a LI.

Elsa is definitely one of the main LI. MC will, for sure, have to make a choice between his fantasy crush and Elsa at some point.
there are many signs. and MC, through the player choices, can add some little gestures that add up.
she might already have feelings for him too. he is the only one she shows her real personality to. and it isn't because she thinks he is harmless and insignificant, as there are others in the company that are like that and she still has her guard up with them, like Matt and the friend that introduced her to the company.

also, MC met Alice and Elsa the same day, and his change began on that day. there is a chance Elsa saw his potential and will the first day, and thought the changes he began was because of her. but then MC revealed it was because of Alice, and she still wanted to help him reach his potential, and hoped he would get over his crush by the time his transformation is over.

she doesn't need MC at all to have a very successful career. even if it is a bit quicker to get there with MC, it's still a ton of effort, time and even more risks. it's not really worth it, in the grand scheme of things. she could easily ride her family's connections and money to get to the top.
maybe she helps MC because she is just bored with life. or because she likes him a little bit without acknowledging it. or a little bit of both ?

 

[Jericho85]

Elsa is definitely one of the main LI. MC will, for sure, have to make a choice between his fantasy crush and Elsa at some point.
there are many signs. and MC, through the player choices, can add some little gestures that add up.
she might already have feelings for him too. he is the only one she shows her real personality to. and it isn't because she thinks he is harmless and insignificant, as there are others in the company that are like that and she still has her guard up with them, like Matt and the friend that introduced her to the company.

also, MC met Alice and Elsa the same day, and his change began on that day. there is a chance Elsa saw his potential and will the first day, and thought the changes he began was because of her. but then MC revealed it was because of Alice, and she still wanted to help him reach his potential, and hoped he would get over his crush by the time his transformation is over.

she doesn't need MC at all to have a very successful career. even if it is a bit quicker to get there with MC, it's still a ton of effort, time and even more risks. it's not really worth it, in the grand scheme of things. she could easily ride her family's connections and money to get to the top.
maybe she helps MC because she is just bored with life. or because she likes him a little bit without acknowledging it. or a little bit of both ?

If there weren't other moments in the VN that seem like they directly contradicted it, I could go with the theory that Elsa is like a Tyler Durden or a "Beautiful Mind" type of character. Her interactions with other characters are so rare that I could almost believe it. And even when she does interact with other characters, weird things happen like how Lucy straight up acts like Elsa isn't there, or how Elsa leaves the coffee she orders on the table. I don't know, maybe it's Eddie doing all of those things and his mind is interpreting those events as Elsa doing them. Maybe Eddie drove himself to Emma's apartment, but his mind interpreted it as Elsa driving him there.

I really need to do another play through since I've forgotten a lot of those details, but it does feel weird to me how isolated her character is. I still think that Elsa is best girl and I hope I'm wrong but now I'm starting to convince myself that Eddie is schizophrenic. After all, he's not exactly mentally sound to begin with.

Hmm.. If that's the case, could Tommy be a figment of his mind too?

 

[Ottoeight]

If there weren't other moments in the VN that seem like they directly contradicted it, I could go with the theory that Elsa is like a Tyler Durden or a "Beautiful Mind" type of character. Her interactions with other characters are so rare that I could almost believe it. And even when she does interact with other characters, weird things happen like how Lucy straight up acts like Elsa isn't there, or how Elsa leaves the coffee she orders on the table. I don't know, maybe it's Eddie doing all of those things and his mind is interpreting those events as Elsa doing them. Maybe Eddie drove himself to Emma's apartment, but his mind interpreted it as Elsa driving him there.

I really need to do another play through since I've forgotten a lot of those details, but it does feel weird to me how isolated her character is. I still think that Elsa is best girl and I hope I'm wrong but now I'm starting to convince myself that Eddie is schizophrenic. After all, he's not exactly mentally sound to begin with.

Hmm.. If that's the case, could Tommy be a figment of his mind too?

You are trolling us, aren't you?

(I'm NOT joking)

 

[Jericho85]

You are trolling us, aren't you?

(I'm NOT joking)

No, why would you think that? Do you have a legit response or were you just trying to shitpost?

 

[Avatarbr1]

It's been a while since I played, but I am almost sure there are a scene in Elsa's apartment and Alice go there later and interact with her and MC. So, I don't know how that would fit in a Fight Club scheme.