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would be nice, but slim chances, if there is a chance at all...
even for that feb/march of 2025 estimate i was probably an optimist.
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In the past he would take years for a measly 200 render update but now given how he's made more than 1600 renders in 6-7 months (I think, not sure) and frequent dev logs and such I'd say 2024 is a good year for the 0.7 update to drop.
Also are you Indian?
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Oh no!
I mean, do you really think it's going to take another half a year? Judging by the log, the bulk of the manual work is already done, and now it's just a matter of how quickly the posed and prepared scenes are rendered.
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Your estimate seems a bit weird to me.
He wrote (2 days ago!): "Render time on average is somewhere between an hour and two" and "In terms of in-game days – first 3 days are rendered, 4th being worked on at the moment" and "Right now there's a test build and the first two days of the update are playable."
So, I'd say the update is going to come out at the end of September / in October.
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Yeah I would say it's gonna be here in late September/ starting of October if no issue arises with the rendering.
Also there's the script as well. He did say he has some more writing to do and after that he'll send it for proofreading.
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damn, cant quote it all here, so this will be one answer to all 
my estimate is based on average developing speed so far and general developing trends (the nearer finish is, (much) slower things tend to become with all "finishing" touches), based on which it is quite realistic imo...perhaps even a bit optimistic as i wrote above.
ofc, would love nothing more than to be wrong and the update actually come sooner than that.
my estimate is based on average developing speed so far and general developing trends (the nearer finish is, (much) slower things tend to become with all "finishing" touches), based on which it is quite realistic imo...perhaps even a bit optimistic as i wrote above.
ofc, would love nothing more than to be wrong and the update actually come sooner than that.
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I've been following his "production" reports for all these years and I can tell you that "rendering" has always been a much less time consuming process than creation. Assembly process? very fast.damn, cant quote it all here, so this will be one answer to all
my estimate is based on average developing speed so far and general developing trends (the nearer finish is, (much) slower things tend to become with all "finishing" touches), based on which it is quite realistic imo...perhaps even a bit optimistic as i wrote above.
ofc, would love nothing more than to be wrong and the update actually come sooner than that.
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Nice renders, unusual interesting setting and good writing, thou I'm either missing something or there's something wrong (for me I mean).
Playing as an idiot for hours on end isn't that much fun, the whole dynamic with Elsa is unsofferable for how it's portrayed, and is not improving/evolving at all.
One almost hopes he'll end up getting fucked over badly by Elsa the corporate spy, but since I'm not that masochist, I find it hard to go on?
Is not much about being beta (as some mentioned in this thread) is about being one of the stupidest persons on the face of earth, and no treating "roughly" a couple of women doesn't show he's evolving into an "alpha" or becoming smarter, quite the opposite.
I don't know if it's just me (so the VN is not for me) or if I'm actually missing something...
Playing as an idiot for hours on end isn't that much fun, the whole dynamic with Elsa is unsofferable for how it's portrayed, and is not improving/evolving at all.
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Is not much about being beta (as some mentioned in this thread) is about being one of the stupidest persons on the face of earth, and no treating "roughly" a couple of women doesn't show he's evolving into an "alpha" or becoming smarter, quite the opposite.
I don't know if it's just me (so the VN is not for me) or if I'm actually missing something...
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For me it's mostly curiosity that keept me going cause I did think the game was boring then all of sudden it stopped feeling boring to me , after I pushed through it for awhile. For sure this game isn't for everyoneNice renders, unusual interesting setting and good writing, thou I'm either missing something or there's something wrong (for me I mean).
Playing as an idiot for hours on end isn't that much fun, the whole dynamic with Elsa is unsofferable for how it's portrayed, and is not improving/evolving at all.
One almost hopes he'll end up getting fucked over badly by Elsa the corporate spy, but since I'm not that masochist, I find it hard to go on?You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Is not much about being beta (as some mentioned in this thread) is about being one of the stupidest persons on the face of earth, and no treating "roughly" a couple of women doesn't show he's evolving into an "alpha" or becoming smarter, quite the opposite.
I don't know if it's just me (so the VN is not for me) or if I'm actually missing something...
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It's not about being boring, is just that, I don't know maybe because my own working experience is within the corporate environment?
Starting from the bottom, quickly ascending some positions and then stagnating for a handful of years and eventually resumed "climbing" untill I realized I didn't want (and most likely didn't have the skill either) to climb further.
It doesn't necessarily require all that cloack and dagger approach, but at the same time it does require to recognize your mistakes, and learn from them, which is not something the MC is capable of (I just reached the end of the update).
The main mistake is not asking questions... why is Elsa helping him? What does she get out of it? Is he really interested in providing whatever that is to her? How does she know all these folks? etc...
- She's not a long time friend, I would hardly describe their relationship as friendship.
- He's barely smart enough to understand she's getting something out of it, but not enough to stop and ask what.
- MC is not even into her, he has his own teenager like love crusade to fuel him.
Again there needs to be secrets/suprises that get eventually uncovered later during the story, but it would be easy to have Elsa answer his questions with lies, instead... the MC simply gives up on getting any answer.
Sorry for the rambling btw
EIDT: just to add, I do actually like this VN, it's for sure closer to me to than most "landlady" themed VNs and for age also than all the collegiale ones, and while I know is not a small point, that is literally the only thing infuriating me with this.
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Have you considered that our MC's got a screw loose and he is in fact a little bit looney?
Jeez, just think about what he did with his furniture.
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Paid post on August 30. Details down bellow.
Where we are. First two days finalized, sort of. There's still going to be "edited_final_final_v44", but the vast majority of it is ready, which is good. It's being proofread now, and we're going forward with it.
I'm working on Day 3 out of 4. It's in a playable state right now. I'm working with the script again, fixing, adding and rewriting, sometimes switching to post-work. It's a treat.
Rendering. Slightly less than 200 done for the past two weeks, maybe slightly more. I didn't start to count until a few days in, so let's assume.
Two scenes left to render on Day 4. I keep adjusting render parameters on the fly to keep shots under 2 hours, unless it's Alice or Elsa. Both of them are entitled to have as many pixels as they want. That is a nouveau way to telegraph their privileged access to MC's neurons.
Jokes aside, capping it at 2 hours max give us some reasonable release window. I'm not comfortable to share it, but as soon as I'm sure I can keep it, I'll tell you.
Payments, date and liabilities.
First, there won't be August special this month. I'm in a hurry, there's an internal deadline I want to make. Moving attention to something else and back at this stage is bad idea. It will slow down everything and it will slow down everything more than usual, because it distracts way more to switch back and forth right now. I want to solely focus on getting the update ready first. Besides that, there's a good chance that special itself wouldn't be any good because I would still be distracted and in a rush. Apologies for that, but please be advised.
Previews will continue to be published until later.
Patreon. I've begun moving from "per creation" to subscription billing. It seems that it's available now. Nothing happened yet, I've just reached to Patreon and now waiting for response. I'll share details with you as soon as I have them.
About release and payments. There's no release date yet, but I was thinking what to do with payments while we in assembly phase. While we still work on it, it's not setting up scenes kind of work, which is usually meant by development. I propose this:
We pretend that all assembly job will be done in August (they will not, renders won't be ready) and August will be paid month. After that, the next month with payments will be the one when update released.
If it releases in September, then September will be a paid month. If it releases in October, then September will be free of charge and October will be a paid month.
This will allow me to finish it without pressure, and you will not being charged because I'm moving commas all over the script and polishing it beyond reasonable.
Previews tomorrow.
That's all for today. I'd be happy to answer you questions or concerns if you have any.
Thanks for support.
See you.
I just discovered this game and I'm really enjoying it. The main character has some problems, but I feel like the game (and Elsa) is helping him kind of overcome those issues. In my game I'm trying to balance him out so he doesn't spend as much time obsessing over Alice but also is loyal to Elsa even if he teases her on a regular basis. She's got her own agenda for sure but I don't think she means the protagonist any harm. She's simply imposing her worldview and values on him because he has no self confidence and has turned into an empty shell of himself with no real way to assert his values and wants at this time.
I've had these experiences when I was in my teens and 20s. I'd find people I considered to be "high level" and with no real belief in myself or my abilities my personality would create an open space for them to occupy and remake me. I eventually had to do some soul searching and learn what it is that I really wanted out of life and that ultimately basing my self-actualization, values and sense of self worth on an external person is a volatile and unstable way to live. Sooner or later you realize this other person can't live your life for you, you have to start making your own choices and live true to your own values and beliefs. That's when you start to clash and re-asserting your own ego and sense of individuality can cause major recoil with your "Elsa" for lack of a better word. It can often involve them trying to re-assert control, manipulating you (not intentionally) into giving them back the reins or else you start to feel guilty or bad about expressing your boundaries. In the end the ideal state is they got you somewhere, then you took over control and pushed yourself to whatever end-state you truly desire.
There is an Elsa in everyone's life, they aren't always female. If you have low self confidence and have a desire to "level-up" so to speak you will very quickly run into someone in your life who will make you their project. It fuels their own narcissistic egos and will in time result in them crossing a line where you have to assert yourself sooner or later. I see such a conflict taking place in this story eventually as well...
That being said she does strike me as somewhat of a high functioning autistic, which makes her a great foil for a character as troubled as Edward. I hope there will be a way to resolve Edward's story in a satisfactory way, where he grows up and realizes he does have worth as a person.
Ultimately the conclusion you have to come to if you're in his situation is that you never needed an "Alice". Alice was a catalyst. At the end of the day it isn't her you need to impress, it's yourself. The lingering void in Edward's life is not something you fill with external validation or with chasing an ideal he's mostly made up in his own mind. The real Alice, the one he actually gets to know is a flawed and imperfect being with her own needs, wants and problems. When Edward inevitably clashes with his imagined Alice vs the real one he gets to know he'll realize she's just another woman like everyone else. Without a strong personal foundation to base his personality on, without doing the necessary work to fill that void from his own personality and ego, he'll crash back down to who he was at the start of the story.
So... for Edward to really "win", he can't actually succeed in his goal to become involved with Alice in a romantic way. The moment he wins her is the moment he loses everything and goes back to who he was because there won't be anything that drives him to continue doing what he's been doing. I hope Elsa, and more importantly, Edward himself helps Edward figure out how to source his motivations internally and that the only person he really needs to impress is himself and not Alice, Elsa, Emma, Mr Brown or anyone else. It's only ever gonna be enough when Edward says it's enough. I only hope there's an option for Edward to realize that himself.
On a more personal note I hope there's a way for Edward to become romantically involved with Elsa. If anything, I'd rather she be a winnable LI with a satisfying romance over Alice... If Edward wants to be with Alice he needs to balance himself out with Tommy more than Elsa.
I've had these experiences when I was in my teens and 20s. I'd find people I considered to be "high level" and with no real belief in myself or my abilities my personality would create an open space for them to occupy and remake me. I eventually had to do some soul searching and learn what it is that I really wanted out of life and that ultimately basing my self-actualization, values and sense of self worth on an external person is a volatile and unstable way to live. Sooner or later you realize this other person can't live your life for you, you have to start making your own choices and live true to your own values and beliefs. That's when you start to clash and re-asserting your own ego and sense of individuality can cause major recoil with your "Elsa" for lack of a better word. It can often involve them trying to re-assert control, manipulating you (not intentionally) into giving them back the reins or else you start to feel guilty or bad about expressing your boundaries. In the end the ideal state is they got you somewhere, then you took over control and pushed yourself to whatever end-state you truly desire.
There is an Elsa in everyone's life, they aren't always female. If you have low self confidence and have a desire to "level-up" so to speak you will very quickly run into someone in your life who will make you their project. It fuels their own narcissistic egos and will in time result in them crossing a line where you have to assert yourself sooner or later. I see such a conflict taking place in this story eventually as well...
That being said she does strike me as somewhat of a high functioning autistic, which makes her a great foil for a character as troubled as Edward. I hope there will be a way to resolve Edward's story in a satisfactory way, where he grows up and realizes he does have worth as a person.
Ultimately the conclusion you have to come to if you're in his situation is that you never needed an "Alice". Alice was a catalyst. At the end of the day it isn't her you need to impress, it's yourself. The lingering void in Edward's life is not something you fill with external validation or with chasing an ideal he's mostly made up in his own mind. The real Alice, the one he actually gets to know is a flawed and imperfect being with her own needs, wants and problems. When Edward inevitably clashes with his imagined Alice vs the real one he gets to know he'll realize she's just another woman like everyone else. Without a strong personal foundation to base his personality on, without doing the necessary work to fill that void from his own personality and ego, he'll crash back down to who he was at the start of the story.
So... for Edward to really "win", he can't actually succeed in his goal to become involved with Alice in a romantic way. The moment he wins her is the moment he loses everything and goes back to who he was because there won't be anything that drives him to continue doing what he's been doing. I hope Elsa, and more importantly, Edward himself helps Edward figure out how to source his motivations internally and that the only person he really needs to impress is himself and not Alice, Elsa, Emma, Mr Brown or anyone else. It's only ever gonna be enough when Edward says it's enough. I only hope there's an option for Edward to realize that himself.
On a more personal note I hope there's a way for Edward to become romantically involved with Elsa. If anything, I'd rather she be a winnable LI with a satisfying romance over Alice... If Edward wants to be with Alice he needs to balance himself out with Tommy more than Elsa.
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On a side note I work in an adjacent industry.
The company the protagonist works for is based on INEOS in real life. The Ryan guy works for Exxon. I’ve worked with both companies as vendors.
The company the protagonist works for is based on INEOS in real life. The Ryan guy works for Exxon. I’ve worked with both companies as vendors.
almost 1 year after and no update - waiting for another update without sex scenes - this project looks really promising xD
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You'll survive a little bit of edging. You aren't one of the weaks, are you?