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There have been 1.7 million views on this game thread. Please explain how that is not advertising for the dev, and what other methods to promote small scale adult VN's there are that are more effective?
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He said that although F95 has a lot of users and promotes the game, the conversion rate nowadays is very low.
I can speak for myself, I stopped supporting many games because the development time is currently very long. I believe it's because many devs have stopped working from home. Currently, I only support games by buying them in early access on Steam. I use F95 just to check the reviews and user comments.
How long between updates again? I'd wager the dev having only 95 patrons has more to do with the slow update cycle than anything else. I like the game but it's one I don't pay that much attention to because it doesn't update enough to pay attention to it.
Right, but that isnt what the other person is saying. I'm in the same boat as you, there are just too many devs and games that either never finish or change halfway through development for me to support them anymore. I'll gladly buy a finished game, but the number of devs I sub to is incredibly small now compared to what it was a few years ago.
They are saying hosting games here actively hurts the smaller devs, which is insane to me. What other methods of advertisement do they have? How else would people find the game of some random dev with 20 subs. They are not losing out on subs because these people would never have known the game existed anyways.
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This is true, but only for new games. Completely new. Look when this thread was launched, four years have passed. What kind of advertising can there be now for game that old? And most of the developers who started promoting their games on f95 are now distancing themselves from the Zone in every possible way, have deleted their accounts here and forbid mentioning it in their official discord channels. And there are plenty of places to present a new game, Reddit for example. But I guess that wasn't the point of Tremonia's post.
- May 8, 2022
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Most stories are just placeholders for porn, this is creeping depression in art form.
I tried to sell this game to some people, because is good. But "nightmare" fuel is not a motif that people want to read, life is already shit.
I tried to sell this game to some people, because is good. But "nightmare" fuel is not a motif that people want to read, life is already shit.
Thanks for being a normie, explaining the point.
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A surprising number of purist fetishists around here enjoy dire, dumb, incomprehensionable, dumpsterfire, ridiculous stories where their protagonist is purposefully stomped on constantly - they call it art+drama+good story - they enjoy their 5 o'clock murder and rape and gore news too much in their games.
Wrong!
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Everyone kindly and quickly identified the only human being in this game who is the sole payoff of grief and denial:
The double standards that apply to MC as opposed to everybody else are insanely crooked against him, so the writing in this game is sinking and the game progression is digging a deeper hole with every update - we can understand destroying MC in the first two .. give it three updates, but throwing daggers straight through his bleeding heart every time he puts in the time to help totally undeserving assholes whom the story tries to portray as the ”Love interests” - but nearly every self help or dating guide out there in the universe would describe each and every one of them as totally toxic+self centered+psychotic+ narcissistic +entitled + nepo baby + lunatics - there is the part where this game just fumbles into itself and turns people away.
If you profess the effort to grow internally, then show the progression and the forward going results - as opposed to fumbling the story of MC every time while thrusting totally undeserving mad women into the lime light with very little plot relevance or story buildup.
Making plot armored characters and keeping them immune to all the struggle gets very old very fast, as this game wants to demonstrate to all the players in literally every update.
Elsa does not need or want or does any growing in her character, skills or attitude - so why are we playing this game about inanimate fking object of a nepo baby asshole who does nothign for her own growth or that of MC??????????????????????????????
- blackmail and market manipulation from someone with insider trading tricks and informational background does not mean any growth, it just means she gets a win with literally no effort but her old tried and true tricks while putting MC as the idiot front of her illegal operation. Bravo!
Alice does not need or want or does any growing in her character, skills or attitude - so why are we playing this game about inanimate fking object of a nepo baby asshole who does nothign for her own growth or that of MC ????????????????
MC always being on the losing side of character development while the other characters keep being on the winning side is right now plaid out ad neauseam for a lot of updates.
No, character development does not mean losing all the time, because that changes this game into the hell of Sisif - forever struggle with pointless results.
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The double standards that apply to MC as opposed to everybody else are insanely crooked against him, so the writing in this game is sinking and the game progression is digging a deeper hole with every update - we can understand destroying MC in the first two .. give it three updates, but throwing daggers straight through his bleeding heart every time he puts in the time to help totally undeserving assholes whom the story tries to portray as the ”Love interests” - but nearly every self help or dating guide out there in the universe would describe each and every one of them as totally toxic+self centered+psychotic+ narcissistic +entitled + nepo baby + lunatics - there is the part where this game just fumbles into itself and turns people away.
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If you profess the effort to grow internally, then show the progression and the forward going results - as opposed to fumbling the story of MC every time while thrusting totally undeserving mad women into the lime light with very little plot relevance or story buildup.
Making plot armored characters and keeping them immune to all the struggle gets very old very fast, as this game wants to demonstrate to all the players in literally every update.
Elsa does not need or want or does any growing in her character, skills or attitude - so why are we playing this game about inanimate fking object of a nepo baby asshole who does nothign for her own growth or that of MC??????????????????????????????
- blackmail and market manipulation from someone with insider trading tricks and informational background does not mean any growth, it just means she gets a win with literally no effort but her old tried and true tricks while putting MC as the idiot front of her illegal operation. Bravo!
Alice does not need or want or does any growing in her character, skills or attitude - so why are we playing this game about inanimate fking object of a nepo baby asshole who does nothign for her own growth or that of MC ????????????????
MC always being on the losing side of character development while the other characters keep being on the winning side is right now plaid out ad neauseam for a lot of updates.
No, character development does not mean losing all the time, because that changes this game into the hell of Sisif - forever struggle with pointless results.
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1.7 million views and just around 90 Patreons. There're ways to promote AVN. You underestimate the bubble outside.
Ah, that's why devs like DarkCookie, DrStinkCheese, SFS, etc. have only a hand full Patreons. Didn't thought of that. Thank you for helping me see things more clearly.
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This is the only game on this site that's like this (that I have seen). Maybe, just maybe, there is a group of people who like this game, who dont think its "incomprehensionable" or ridiculous. why are you even in the thread just to insult it
I know people are complaining about the lack of sex scenes. But when you get as old as me and dipped into just about every fetish and type of porn you can imagine, the ease of it all means that random sex scenes up front are just boring. Much prefer build up and elaborate flirting instead.
For example that scene between Edward and Fleur near the end of this release was probably hotter than 90% of the sex scenes I've seen in all the AVNs on this board. People grossly underestimate how much the chase is better than the catch sometimes. Though I'm extremely perplexed because I thought Zoe liked Edward, and Fleur is just being friendly. The way she went off with Matt leaving him alone with Fleur gave me a bit of whiplash.
I'm still holding up hope that this protagonist can be saved and that he's slowly learning the skills he needs to will himself to power and have a good quality woman on his arm as well. It just may not be alice. It could be Elsa, Fleur, Zoe... even Vicky... all really good choices. Anyone of them better than his neighbor.
For example that scene between Edward and Fleur near the end of this release was probably hotter than 90% of the sex scenes I've seen in all the AVNs on this board. People grossly underestimate how much the chase is better than the catch sometimes. Though I'm extremely perplexed because I thought Zoe liked Edward, and Fleur is just being friendly. The way she went off with Matt leaving him alone with Fleur gave me a bit of whiplash.
I'm still holding up hope that this protagonist can be saved and that he's slowly learning the skills he needs to will himself to power and have a good quality woman on his arm as well. It just may not be alice. It could be Elsa, Fleur, Zoe... even Vicky... all really good choices. Anyone of them better than his neighbor.
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Canto Forte
I dont have to insert into mc to enjoy a cool "Nelson Rodrigues" esque life as it is styled story bro.
I dont have to insert into mc to enjoy a cool "Nelson Rodrigues" esque life as it is styled story bro.
It doesn't take much thought to understand that the market for these games is crowded and anyone making a game will be competing against other games. If you only update once a year then that is on you and not the potential patrons.
Wanted to reply to this directly.
The protagonist is disturbed in a number of ways and thrashing about trying to better himself while fighting against his own ego and arrogance.
In the previous chapters the protagonist's efforts were mostly turned inward. It was about how to become formidable, effective and self confident. Now that he sorted out his own garden he needs to learn how to play nice with others and work as a team. He also needs to learn that nobody reached the top alone through their solo effort, they had help.
The overarching theme here is the protagonist has to build an army with himself as the focal point. He needs allies and he needs to manage conflict correctly across a wide array of disparate personalities. He also need to understand there is quid pro quo and that he is rising to the top and can take a bunch of "his people" with him. Those could be Charles, Fleur, Zoe, Vicky etc. And I suspect even his current employees may be a part of that once everyone gets their come to jesus moment.
This story is British as fuck and I can see lots of elements of an old 2006 movie I enjoyed, it's called "Cashback"
Here's the trailer. You guys tell me if you can spot the similarities. The protagonists seem similar to me.
In summary the story of that movie is the protagonist gets dumped and develops a bad case of insomnia where he can't sleep at all. Rather than dying he gains the ability to control time and goes through some ruminating depression trying to piece his life back together again.
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I'm adopting Jufot's feedback by reference: https://f95zone.to/threads/corporate-culture-v0-7-sqwl.45993/post-15058850. Eddie is still trying to figure things out.