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VN Ren'Py Corporate Culture [v0.7] [sqwl]

4.30 star(s) 164 Votes
Jun 28, 2020
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I know people are complaining about the lack of sex scenes. But when you get as old as me and dipped into just about every fetish and type of porn you can imagine, the ease of it all means that random sex scenes up front are just boring. Much prefer build up and elaborate flirting instead.
Build up can be successfully executed in ten minutes, happens in movies and even books. Even happens in a couple porno games. The crucial factor is quality not quantity of writing. So random sex or build up is a false dichotomy. One can be into edging/denial without conflating it with hunger for great literature... c'mon maine.

I'm replaying this after like a year and the writing if anything got worse. Dude takes 20 lines of dialogue to make a simple - and in this case often irrelevant and out-of-the-blue - point, then gets 20 more lines of inner monologue thinking about said point. Every character talks like a reddit post. Reading a novel you expect a sense of organic flow in conversations somewhat resembling real life, that's like a baseline standard for good writing. When people change subjects you assume a continuity of tone and mood. Even dramatic tension or escalation needs to pay off something that was set up earlier in the plot. Here everyone drifts into each others orbit, says one relevant thing and a lot of pseudo edgy/smart bullshit then drifts away. The PC talks like a fake chad then gets walked all over in the very next scene, with the only continuity or payoff being his inner monologues that are even more inconsistent than the dialogue. His personality can be summed up as I spend a lot of time thinking in circles about myself, therefore I am special. If that's "build up" I'd much rather be homeless in LA. It's a Pynchonesque nightmare but the post-structural subversion has been replaced by the hero's journey.
 

R8d_X

Member
Feb 8, 2024
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A very long wait for this update and something feels different. For the first time since playing this game I started fast clicking through text, and ultimately hitting the control key - not a good sign. The only thing that held my interest was the interaction with Fleur. Most of the dialogue felt pointless... am I the only one feeling this?
 

armond

Well-Known Member
Apr 26, 2020
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Build up can be successfully executed in ten minutes, happens in movies and even books. Even happens in a couple porno games. The crucial factor is quality not quantity of writing. So random sex or build up is a false dichotomy. One can be into edging/denial without conflating it with hunger for great literature... c'mon maine.

I'm replaying this after like a year and the writing if anything got worse. Dude takes 20 lines of dialogue to make a simple - and in this case often irrelevant and out-of-the-blue - point, then gets 20 more lines of inner monologue thinking about said point. Every character talks like a reddit post. Reading a novel you expect a sense of organic flow in conversations somewhat resembling real life, that's like a baseline standard for good writing. When people change subjects you assume a continuity of tone and mood. Even dramatic tension or escalation needs to pay off something that was set up earlier in the plot. Here everyone drifts into each others orbit, says one relevant thing and a lot of pseudo edgy/smart bullshit then drifts away. The PC talks like a fake chad then gets walked all over in the very next scene, with the only continuity or payoff being his inner monologues that are even more inconsistent than the dialogue. His personality can be summed up as I spend a lot of time thinking in circles about myself, therefore I am special. If that's "build up" I'd much rather be homeless in LA. It's a Pynchonesque nightmare but the post-structural subversion has been replaced by the hero's journey.
It's true, the ctrl key gets a workout and I don't miss a thing
 

Jumbi

With my good eye closed
Donor
Feb 17, 2020
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Hi,

Do you know if it is possible somehow to remove the quick menu from the GUI?
 

yossa999

Engaged Member
Dec 5, 2020
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Whoa... so you mean to say I'm not going to randomly run into Enron's CEO's daughter who would sense greatness in me and secretly decide it is my hand that shall take her plight when the time comes, and shortly thereafter given an opportunity to manage a team at their hq... while being life-coached by the CEO daughter's hot blond friendfu who's also down? :eek:
Man, I really wish you could... But I don't see the way how you'll survive this build up.
This nasty dev made a helter-skelter of writing, overcomplexified everythings for no reason. Talking ego, Elsa, who only makes fun of MC and criticizes, but hasn't even shown a tit once, poor man chasing the princess, all this bullshit. He should have stuck to the classic, time-tested build up: "Hey, step-brother, I'm stuck in the washing machine, can you help me?"
 

armond

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Apr 26, 2020
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5,413
Just out of innocent curiosity, why not quit this game and forget it ever existed? What do you expect to find at the end of a fast forward?
What I mean, you obtuse forum troll, is that I can skip the majority of the dialogue and not miss any of the plot, therefore the key gets a workout. I won't respond to you anymore as it looks like you're just trying to be aggressive and start arguments.
 

yossa999

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Dec 5, 2020
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What I mean, you obtuse forum troll, is that I can skip the majority of the dialogue and not miss any of the plot, therefore the key gets a workout. I won't respond to you anymore as it looks like you're just trying to be aggressive and start arguments.
So you're the one being openly rude and I'm the one being aggressive? Anyway, goodbye, dude.
 

Krytax123

Well-Known Member
Dec 29, 2022
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3,897
A very long wait for this update and something feels different. For the first time since playing this game I started fast clicking through text, and ultimately hitting the control key - not a good sign. The only thing that held my interest was the interaction with Fleur. Most of the dialogue felt pointless... am I the only one feeling this?
I love this avn but i kinda agree about this update.

For me it was a bit too much of focus on "how to manage your completly unreasonable and lazy employes" and felt almost a bit too comical (without being funny) and not realistic.

There would have been better ways for Elsa to teach Edward to become better at solcialising and building a team than the way it was displayed imo. It was just kinda annoying and over the top useless moron workmates and a lot of time focused on it.
 

yossa999

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Dec 5, 2020
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It's unfortunate that you think a "cheap" porno plot is inherently inferior as literature to a "story-driven adult gaming experience" that doesn't have the balls to be what it really is. The most endearing and revolutionary works in the western canon are basically cheap porno stories that revel in grossness, absurdity and the belittling of "overcomplexified everythings".

Ferondo, having swallowed a certain powder, is entombed for dead and being taken forth of the sepulchre by the abbot, who enjoyeth his wife the while, is put in prison and given to believe that he is in purgatory; after which, being raised up again, he reareth for his own a child begotten of the abbot on his wife. - Decameron 3:8
Bro, c'mon, you don't expect a modern Boccaccio to start making AVNs? Still, without downplaying the talent of the AVN developers, I don't think most of them are experienced screenwriters or novelists.

Finding something that goes beyond "My dad is dead and I moved in with his milfy friend and her daughters to molest them in the sleep" is already a big success. At least I find the dialogues in this game quite entertaining, and the constant bickering between Ed and Elsa is the best part.

Somehow, yeah, don't laught, the dialogue here bring me a sort of Guy Ritchie's vibes. And of course, I see this game basically as a comedy, albeit a dark one, with the absurdities, awkward moments and downright stupidities typical to the genre.
 

Ottoeight

Forum Fanatic
Mar 13, 2021
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How long between updates again? I'd wager the dev having only 95 patrons has more to do with the slow update cycle than anything else. I like the game but it's one I don't pay that much attention to because it doesn't update enough to pay attention to it.
That's the opposite, bro. I guess this is what people mean when they say: "put the cart before the horse".

It doesn't take much thought to understand that the market for these games is crowded and anyone making a game will be competing against other games. If you only update once a year then that is on you and not the potential patrons.
Where have you been in the last 4 years? this game had 20-30 patrons when it was being updated every 3 months.



I know people are complaining about the lack of sex scenes. But when you get as old as me and dipped into just about every fetish and type of porn you can imagine, the ease of it all means that random sex scenes up front are just boring. Much prefer build up and elaborate flirting instead.

For example that scene between Edward and Fleur near the end of this release was probably hotter than 90% of the sex scenes I've seen in all the AVNs on this board. People grossly underestimate how much the chase is better than the catch sometimes. Though I'm extremely perplexed because I thought Zoe liked Edward, and Fleur is just being friendly. The way she went off with Matt leaving him alone with Fleur gave me a bit of whiplash.

I'm still holding up hope that this protagonist can be saved and that he's slowly learning the skills he needs to will himself to power and have a good quality woman on his arm as well. It just may not be alice. It could be Elsa, Fleur, Zoe... even Vicky... all really good choices. Anyone of them better than his neighbor.
About Zoe: she gave up on Edward when Adam and Matt invited them to the movies and he refused and stayed with Elsa at the office.
 

skyrfen

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