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assodicuori

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Most of the things you stated are correct, and yes Dev has changed the main settings of the story on several occasions. First, he put that NTR could be avoided, and then he deleted it after a month or two. Then he explained that there would be a possibility for Clara to remain faithful (not to have sex with others), and he deleted that as well. Then he explained that she would remain faithful and she would not be emotionally attached to others (but she will definitely have sex with others), but now she is emotionally attached to Leon (regardless of which "route" is chosen)... And worst of all, he made it so that regardless of which option you choose, it will always end the same way - he made every decision meaningless. He should have said at the beginning that it is a VIDEO NOVEL, not a GAME.
And not to mention that he keeps insisting that Clara is an experienced agent, but there is no one who hasn't tricked her, and soon there won't be anyone who hasn't fucked her or fucked her over.

And there was a noticeable drop in patrons and even more earnings
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And there is no need to argue with these two trolls. It's obvious they work for Dev, but I don't remember a single game where the fans act like the worst street punks insulting everyone who has a different opinion than them, in an attempt to defend their game. What's worse is that such behavior only drives people away even more.


I want to share this masterpiece of your analysis, call trolls those who express their doubts and ban them, but are heroes those who give 5 stars and praise a great work, without specifying, in what way this is a great VN, and it is now known that it is a kinetic porn, not a game.
 

assodicuori

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The feature of this game is a pure NTR, because you have no real choice to avoid, the DEV has only lied with many of his statements, too obviously when he talks about MC who can avoid Hanna these things, never was a lie bigger, Anna's sex is programmed equally, and the more you go on the more it is becoming an orgy party, not a spy story, it is a concentration of 1980s porn garbage, with the various POVs that are another visual cheat. Wrong title, not Corrupted Hearts, but Corrupted Fucks is more suitable.
 

MoBy28

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Dude, the dev isn't strictly connecting 'faithful' with the whole one-man-woman dictionary meaning. He could just be trying to show how messy and complicated relationships can get, particularly in the kind of game we are playing. So no need to lock it down to just 'loyal' and attacking how the dev writes his game just cause you didn't or can't understand his point. I and so many others here have did based on our discussions before and after you showed up here
If you don't use the definition of the word then it no longer has the same meaning. There is a reason we have definitions for words. If not then you can say any word means whatever you want it to mean, such as cat is now a dog, love is now hate, car means sex. If you literally define the word unfaithful(broke his faith), you can't then go and say that person is still faithful because they are not, they can be still loyal but not faithful. Now if Alan had agreed to Clara sleeping/doing sexual stuff with other men then yes she could still be faithful as she wouldn't have broke his faith. So any criticism of the devs work is an attack now to you. I also said one of the reasons I didn't bring up the improper articulation was I didn't want to seem like I am attacking the dev. Simple fact is words have meanings for a reason, so that everyone knows what is being said.

About the 'faithful' route, it sounds like you're thinking it's all about righteous choices. But to humor you, if she only did things for the sake of the mission or Alan, it will be so much easier to forgive her. Because morally, she never cheated on him. So there is no true cheating taking place here. But now it should be clear that the story is proceeding in such a way that it will make players make a complicated decision on what to do with a partner who cheated on you but under unique circumstances.
There is a reason it's called a "faithful" route to have righteous/"faithful" choices. It would make it easier for some to forgive but that's where the corruption part comes in. What happens when she gets to where she enjoys it does she go that extra mile to make sure sex happens or becomes even sluttier during the scenes becoming more and more depraved. That's what your not looking at and that's where the corruption comes into play. Choice: do I just flirt/tease this guy to get access to somewhere or do I bang the shit out of him to get the same thing? Flirting/teasing doesn't work so seduction is now the only way but the corruption points would be awarded differently depending on original choice. So you can see where enough corruption and she would just start going straight to the sexual stuff over trying to remain "faithful" That complicated decision your talking about would come from Alan finding out she is doing a sexual path and enjoying the sex(the point of the corruption) rather than she just bangs out his enemy for the sake of NTR(typical trope).

If you wanted to talk about corruption, she is getting emotionally corrupted by Leon and after the cheating update, physically as well (ignoring the other bad guys).
What I was talking and asking about with the corruption is how is anything supposed to change the ending if there is nothing tying her to the MC she is either emotionally corrupted, leaves him for another, or physically corrupted where she leaves him because she enjoys sex with everyone but him. The only thing to "save" the marriage is a cuck/simp option to stay while she is still banging other people. That's why I started asking about how things were going corruption wise. If you only have 3 basic options for an ending- MC failure, MC revenge and MC stays married there isn't alot of option to change things other than the characters involved. All of that makes it pretty much a typical trope netorare game. I was looking for a story that wasn't bogged down with tropes and broke out of the normal shell of netorare, The dev pushes how choices matter and can save the marriage when in actuality they don't matter other than changing which characters "stay or go". I think more people are interested in X than the actual story. They want to know the who/why about x, screw the couple and their issues(other than the sex scenes) or how they get resolved.

I think the story is doing a great job of exploring the nuances of relationships, and it's not always easy to categorize Clara's actions as one thing or the other. You say you don't get how things are going to end. Then why not just wait for the story to finish and see what those 6 or 7 endings are instead of complaining before the dev can do anything.
This is your opinion and your entitled to it, others will have different opinions. The dev has as a path save the marriage but as many have already stated he gives no reason to try to save the marriage. They had problems before the mission and now with the mission those problems have gotten worse along with Clara's cheating. I'm not seeing alot of "love" between the couple. I mean you see Alan doing things to try to help Clara and make things better for them but not much on the flip side other than I'm doing this because someone threatened to kill my husband if I don't and starting to blame/hate him for everything that's happening. No real affection on Clara's side other than her internal monologue of "I still love Alan". I am waiting to see how it ends mainly because I'm curious about X, don't really care about the marriage as I have been given no reason to care about it.
 
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UpravDom

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The feature of this game is a pure NTR, because you have no real choice to avoid, the DEV has only lied with many of his statements, too obviously when he talks about MC who can avoid Hanna these things, never was a lie bigger, Anna's sex is programmed equally, and the more you go on the more it is becoming an orgy party, not a spy story, it is a concentration of 1980s porn garbage, with the various POVs that are another visual cheat. Wrong title, not Corrupted Hearts, but Corrupted Fucks is more suitable.
If you don't like this particular game, then there are a lot of other games on the Internet! Please have fun in other places, and do not arrange dancing on the bones here! I personally like the game and I also think the game developer decides for himself what to do and how to do it! As for the different popularity charts, it is common practice when seasonal jumps occur before an update...:mad:
 

truthpolice

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Sigh when some sweaty pleps here can't accept reality and is no lyfing with dumb bs while hooked up on,

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But seriously, I am glad the dev are ignoring these guys and telling the story he wants to say. Catering to such trolls has ruined a lot of games. Witnessed it personally.

For those who know how to read a graph, check below. Highest ever recorded was when last update released which was part b of v0.5. Obviously it had dipped a bit after since its been more than a month after last update and only true supporters pledge consistently. But on average this game fanbase is getting bigger gradually. Just keep it going!

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tharsheblows

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If you don't use the definition of the word then it no longer has the same meaning. There is a reason we have definitions for words. If not then you can say any word means whatever you want it to mean, such as cat is now a dog, love is now hate, car means sex. If you literally define the word unfaithful(broke his faith), you can't then go and say that person is still faithful because they are not, they can be still loyal but not faithful. Now if Alan had agreed to Clara sleeping/doing sexual stuff with other men then yes she could still be faithful as she wouldn't have broke his faith. So any criticism of the devs work is an attack now to you. I also said one of the reasons I didn't bring up the improper articulation was I didn't want to seem like I am attacking the dev. Simple fact is words have meanings for a reason, so that everyone knows what is being said.



There is a reason it's called a "faithful" route to have righteous/"faithful" choices. It would make it easier for some to forgive but that's where the corruption part comes in. What happens when she gets to where she enjoys it does she go that extra mile to make sure sex happens or becomes even sluttier during the scenes becoming more and more depraved. That's what your not looking at and that's where the corruption comes into play. Choice: do I just flirt/tease this guy to get access to somewhere or do I bang the shit out of him to get the same thing? Flirting/teasing doesn't work so seduction is now the only way but the corruption points would be awarded differently depending on original choice. So you can see where enough corruption and she would just start going straight to the sexual stuff over trying to remain "faithful" That complicated decision your talking about would come from Alan finding out she is doing a sexual path and enjoying the sex(the point of the corruption) rather than she just bangs out his enemy for the sake of NTR(typical trope).



What I was talking and asking about with the corruption is how is anything supposed to change the ending if there is nothing tying her to the MC she is either emotionally corrupted, leaves him for another, or physically corrupted where she leaves him because she enjoys sex with everyone but him. The only thing to "save" the marriage is a cuck/simp option to stay while she is still banging other people. That's why I started asking about how things were going corruption wise. If you only have 3 basic options for an ending- MC failure, MC revenge and MC stays married there isn't alot of option to change things other than the characters involved. All of that makes it pretty much a typical trope netorare game. I was looking for a story that wasn't bogged down with tropes and broke out of the normal shell of netorare, The dev pushes how choices matter and can save the marriage when in actuality they don't matter other than changing which characters "stay or go". I think more people are interested in X than the actual story. They want to know the who/why about x, screw the couple and their issues(other than the sex scenes) or how they get resolved.



This is your opinion and your entitled to it, others will have different opinions. The dev has as a path save the marriage but as many have already stated he gives no reason to try to save the marriage. They had problems before the mission and now with the mission those problems have gotten worse along with Clara's cheating. I'm not seeing alot of "love" between the couple. I mean you see Alan doing things to try to help Clara and make things better for them but not much on the flip side other than I'm doing this because someone threatened to kill my husband if I don't and starting to blame/hate him for everything that's happening. No real affection on Clara's side other than her internal monologue of "I still love Alan". I am waiting to see how it ends mainly because I'm curious about X, don't really care about the marriage as I have been given no reason to care about it.
Your base error is assuming that there is only one definition of emotional concepts when there are as many different definitions as there are people in the world. You can not define love for anyone else, nor can anyone else define it for you. Loyalty and faithful are the same way. Only the extremely self-focused truly believe that their definition is the right one on any matter.
 

MoBy28

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Your base error is assuming that there is only one definition of emotional concepts when there are as many different definitions as there are people in the world. You can not define love for anyone else, nor can anyone else define it for you. Loyalty and faithful are the same way. Only the extremely self-focused truly believe that their definition is the right one on any matter.
Actual definitions do not state emotionally it means this or that, it states the meaning of the word. Unfaithful literally means to break the faith. Hence why a religious person can be unfaithful. If some has "broke the faith" they are unfaithful. Doesn't mean they can't still love someone or be loyal(similiar but not the same). If as the dev put things "she knows she broke his faith in her" she is unfaithful does not mean she is disloyal or doesn't love him it means she broke his faith in her. Another different source says having sex with someone other than your partner, says nothing about emotions. Simply put your saying as long as she tells herself she still loves Alan she can go out and bang anyone she wants because she is still "faithful" to him. Funny how that never seems to work in court or any other law abiding matter or with almost all of the population of this planet.
 

UpravDom

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This thread description should be: No criticism allowed...come and praise the developer..... else few members will troll you by all efforts to prove that their way of thinking is the right way of thinking. Everyone else's way of thinking is wrong.
Of course you are right that all people have the right to express their opinions and even criticize! But the thing is, what kind of criticism is it: destructive or creative! Destructive criticism can humiliate a developer so much that he will drop this case! I think it's too cruel! Why are we entering a porn game? Yes, for this very thing, to admire sex! We see different porn games, different characters, different scenarios, but still sooner or later sex and preferably in different poses! I think it's necessary to treat other people the way you would like to be treated! And then there will be peace, friendship and "chewing gum"!;):coffee::)
 

link18

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And there is no need to argue with these two trolls. It's obvious they work for Dev, but I don't remember a single game where the fans act like the worst street punks insulting everyone who has a different opinion than them, in an attempt to defend their game. What's worse is that such behavior only drives people away even more.
although I enjoy the game as is
I'm not defending the dev or the trolls but that's definitely not true I know a couple of games made by a famous dev where criticizing the dev or the game will result to your post being deleted
so, enjoy free speech while you can
 

tharsheblows

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Actual definitions do not state emotionally it means this or that, it states the meaning of the word. Unfaithful literally means to break the faith. Hence why a religious person can be unfaithful. If some has "broke the faith" they are unfaithful. Doesn't mean they can't still love someone or be loyal(similiar but not the same). If as the dev put things "she knows she broke his faith in her" she is unfaithful does not mean she is disloyal or doesn't love him it means she broke his faith in her. Another different source says having sex with someone other than your partner, says nothing about emotions. Simply put your saying as long as she tells herself she still loves Alan she can go out and bang anyone she wants because she is still "faithful" to him. Funny how that never seems to work in court or any other law abiding matter or with almost all of the population of this planet.
Actually, friend, even if you crack the dictionary, you see multiple definitions of the word that use mutiple other words that have multiple definitions themselves.
You're trying desperately to win a pointless argument using flawed logic. Your bias on it is not the standard. Give it a rest.

Faithful
adjective

  1. true to one's word, promises, vows, etc.
  2. steady in allegiance or affection; ; :
    faithful friends.
    Synonyms: , ,
  3. reliable, trusted, or believed.
  4. strict or thorough in the performance of duty:
    a faithful worker.
  5. adhering or true to fact, a standard, or an original; :
    a faithful account;
    a faithful copy.

    Synonyms: ,
  6. Obsolete. full of ; believing.
 

link18

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People here complaining about bad ends and choices that do not alter much *YET*, clearly never played a Japanese visual novel before
minor choices that don't change the plot are common in those
some choices you make may not matter now but they will influence the endgame for sure (secret ends and what not)

and hey If you play NTR games to defy the odds of being NTRed bad news for ya this game aint for u move along an get back to Harem games
 
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MoBy28

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Actually, friend, even if you crack the dictionary, you see multiple definitions of the word that use mutiple other words that have multiple definitions themselves.
You're trying desperately to win a pointless argument using flawed logic. Your bias on it is not the standard. Give it a rest.

Faithful
adjective

  1. true to one's word, promises, vows, etc.
  2. steady in allegiance or affection; ; :
    faithful friends.
    Synonyms: , ,
  3. reliable, trusted, or believed.
  4. strict or thorough in the performance of duty:
    a faithful worker.
  5. adhering or true to fact, a standard, or an original; :
    a faithful account;
    a faithful copy.

    Synonyms: ,
  6. Obsolete. full of ; believing.
Just as you said multiple definitions there are multiple sources and not all have the same wording. With even this definition she is not faithful as she broke her marriage vows definition #1. So unless her physical being and her mental/emotional being are 2 separate entities she is still unfaithful whether she thinks so or not.
 

UpravDom

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In real life, there was a spy named Mata Hari! Mata Hari was a beautiful woman, a dancer and concurrently performed the "honey tasks" of German intelligence! Mata Hari worked so successfully that when she was arrested and executed in October 1917 in France without the right to pardon... That's such a spy story! So female beauty is a terrible force! Therefore, Clara's behavior in our porn game is quite justified! When Clara gets into a fight with the last boss in the person of Mr. Brown, then Clara has to go for a partial betrayal or immediately seduce Mr. Brown! In the second case, Mr. Brown is trying to turn Clara over in a very original way! That was the first lesson! It's interesting to see what happens next... The pictures show scenes from the life of spies!!!;)
 
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One of the problems I had with this game. They put her as an assassin. They should have classified her as an agent who specializes with infiltration. She would have been in her element so when she was corrupted it would have shown she was not good at her job she had specialized in. Which would have made the corruption more satisfying. An assassin trying to infiltrate an organization seems farfetched since their job is to kill. Just my opinion.
 
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tharsheblows

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Just as you said multiple definitions there are multiple sources and not all have the same wording. With even this definition she is not faithful as she broke her marriage vows definition #1. So unless her physical being and her mental/emotional being are 2 separate entities she is still unfaithful whether she thinks so or not.
Says nothing about "marriage vows"
It says,

  1. true to one's word, promises, vows, etc.
She gave her word to mahny people , made other promises and other vows, also don't overlook the "etc." this opens the door for all kinds of oaths, pledges and pacts. You continue to take your narrow vision and try to make it all about that and that alone.
 
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