Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 63b] [CSDev]

[aumhs]

The wiki has a good guide. Not made on the newest version, but still contains the relevant information for early loops.

I just realized that the wiki is not listed on the main post. Is there a specific reason to not add it, or should we message whoever is updating the main post to add it?

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[SuperSkippy]

i'm too low iq for this game

I'm terrible at this game. How do I do better? I can't damage resolve at the end of the fight, and I typically only manage to get one or two chosen to the point of giving me more than 1 EE a day. The only glimpse at a strategy I've found is to take the newspaper and power up a Drain commander to stack massive injuries on the chosen, but I've been struggling to parlay that into other breaks.

Hello you two, and several others I have seen lately that want to get into this game, but are having trouble figuring it out. I have created a new in-game version of the Play-and-Learn Walkthrough. The file you need is attached to this post.

How to Access
1) Extract the .par file directly into your Corrupted Saviors main directory (same as .exe)
2) Boot up Corrupted Saviors
3) Click Import/Export, Import Save, then click on the number corresponding to: Corrupted Saviors Walkthrough V2.1--Created R63b
4) The game will tell you what slot that was loaded into (it'll be past the oldest file in your saves).
5) Click "Back"
6) Uh oh, you're in a battle for some reason! It's not the right one. Click "Data", "Load", then go find where the save file exported to and click on that file.

After that, the dark grey text is my commentary, which includes which commands to use and when applicable, the reasons for using those commands. The replay file goes all the way through earning all Tier 4 Breaks and winning the Final Battle, somewhere around day 32-33 I think. This is a tougher team than most people will fight, (One has 100 MOR, another has like 97-98 CON) so I've tried to explain tactics as they come up. If you click a wrong button, click Retry to restart the battle. Save regularly. This walkthrough will occasionally "quiz" you by asking what move to use--if you get it wrong, just Retry to start the battle over.

Let me know if you have any problems using this--it should teach you just about everything you need to know about the first city.

 

[Konnect]

Hello you two, and several others I have seen lately that want to get into this game, but are having trouble figuring it out. I have created a new in-game version of the Play-and-Learn Walkthrough. The file you need is attached to this post.

How to Access
1) Extract the .par file directly into your Corrupted Saviors main directory (same as .exe)
2) Boot up Corrupted Saviors
3) Click Import/Export, Import Save, then click on the number corresponding to: Corrupted Saviors Walkthrough V2.1--Created R63b
4) The game will tell you what slot that was loaded into (it'll be past the oldest file in your saves).
5) Click "Back"
6) Uh oh, you're in a battle for some reason! It's not the right one. Click "Data", "Load", then go find where the save file exported to and click on that file.

After that, the dark grey text is my commentary, which includes which commands to use and when applicable, the reasons for using those commands. The replay file goes all the way through earning all Tier 4 Breaks and winning the Final Battle, somewhere around day 32-33 I think. This is a tougher team than most people will fight, (One has 100 MOR, another has like 97-98 CON) so I've tried to explain tactics as they come up. If you click a wrong button, click Retry to restart the battle. Save regularly. This walkthrough will occasionally "quiz" you by asking what move to use--if you get it wrong, just Retry to start the battle over.

Let me know if you have any problems using this--it should teach you just about everything you need to know about the first city.

I had to edit my response because this guide is fucking amazing. Seriously, thank you for dedicating your time to create this. Definitely needs to be added to the OP.

 

[zoorg]

Hello you two, and several others I have seen lately that want to get into this game, but are having trouble figuring it out. I have created a new in-game version of the Play-and-Learn Walkthrough. The file you need is attached to this post.

How to Access
1) Extract the .par file directly into your Corrupted Saviors main directory (same as .exe)
2) Boot up Corrupted Saviors
3) Click Import/Export, Import Save, then click on the number corresponding to: Corrupted Saviors Walkthrough V2.1--Created R63b
4) The game will tell you what slot that was loaded into (it'll be past the oldest file in your saves).
5) Click "Back"
6) Uh oh, you're in a battle for some reason! It's not the right one. Click "Data", "Load", then go find where the save file exported to and click on that file.

After that, the dark grey text is my commentary, which includes which commands to use and when applicable, the reasons for using those commands. The replay file goes all the way through earning all Tier 4 Breaks and winning the Final Battle, somewhere around day 32-33 I think. This is a tougher team than most people will fight, (One has 100 MOR, another has like 97-98 CON) so I've tried to explain tactics as they come up. If you click a wrong button, click Retry to restart the battle. Save regularly. This walkthrough will occasionally "quiz" you by asking what move to use--if you get it wrong, just Retry to start the battle over.

Let me know if you have any problems using this--it should teach you just about everything you need to know about the first city.

Thank you. I am still low IQ but I am slowly recovering with the use of this guide and a greater distance between my brain and open microwaves when making hot pockets. I feel confident, given time(and this guide), that I may be able to count to ten without the use of my fingers

 

[SuperSkippy]

Forsaken math post: At what cost are distorted Undead (with the same modifiers) better than distorted Animalistic? When are Animalistics stronger?

TL: DR Undead are better when cost is below 16EE. At costs greater than 16EE, Animalistic are stronger for the same cost. These breakpoints happen at 60 Disgrace for Animalistic, or 40 Disgrace for Undead.

f you're instead comparing Undead to the full Stamina summon of a Flexible Peacemaker (Playful Energy), the breakpoint is instead 4EE (4). This cost is at 80 Disgrace for Animalistic or 60 Disgrace for Undead.

The math is below this line.

The difference of cost between the two of 1/4 is equivalent to Undead having 20 higher Disgrace than Animalistic. (1).

20 higher Disgrace means that at the same cost, Undead will have 40 higher Reputation Strength. (2)

The two have different multipliers. The Undead multiplier on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5. The Animalistic multipliers on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5*1.5 = 2.25. Multiply these values times the formula for the Reputation Strength and you'll have a way to compare. Their modified Reputation Strengths (3) are equal at Disgrace 60, corresponding to a Forsaken costing 16EE.

(1) The EE cost formula for standard/Animalistic Forsaken is (1000)(1/2)^(x/10), where x is the Disgrace. The same formula for Undead Forsaken is (250)(1/2)^(x/10). If we increase the Disgrace of an Animalistic Forsaken by 20, we get the expression
(1000)(1/2)^[(x + 20)/10]
(1000)(1/2)^(x / 10 + 20/10)
(1000)(1/2)^(x/10 + 2)
1000(1/2)^(x/10) * (1/2)^2
1000(1/4)(1/2)^(x/10)
= 250(1/2)^(x/10) -- same as the Undead formula.

(2) The formula for Reputation Strength is just (200 - 2x)%.

(3) The modified Reputation Strength ( y ) of an Animalistic would be 2.25(200 - 2x).
The modified Reputation Strength of an Undead with the same cost would be 1.5(200 - 2x + 40), since the 20 lower disgrace will improve Reputation Strength by 40 (keeping cost the same).
Then solve the system of equations:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 2.25(200 - 2x_2)
I won't work out that algebra here, but the solution is the point (60, 180), meaning they both have a modified Reputation Strength of 180 at a Disgrace of 60 (80 for Undead). This corresponds to a cost of 16EE for both Chosen.

(4) If you want to compare Undead to the first summon of Negotiated (Playful Energy) Animalistic, the new multiplier is 1.5 * 2 = 3. So that is just the solution to the system:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 3(200 - 2x_2)
The solution to this system is the point (80, 120), meaning that they're equal when the Animalistic has 80 Disgrace (the Undead will have 60). This corresponds to a cost of 4EE for both.

 

[Celerarity]

Forsaken math post: At what cost are distorted Undead (with the same modifiers) better than distorted Animalistic? When are Animalistics stronger?

TL: DR Undead are better when cost is below 16EE. At costs greater than 16EE, Animalistic are stronger for the same cost. These breakpoints happen at 60 Disgrace for Animalistic, or 40 Disgrace for Undead.

f you're instead comparing Undead to the full Stamina summon of a Flexible Peacemaker (Playful Energy), the breakpoint is instead 4EE (4). This cost is at 80 Disgrace for Animalistic or 60 Disgrace for Undead.

The math is below this line.

The difference of cost between the two of 1/4 is equivalent to Undead having 20 higher Disgrace than Animalistic. (1).

20 higher Disgrace means that at the same cost, Undead will have 40 higher Reputation Strength. (2)

The two have different multipliers. The Undead multiplier on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5. The Animalistic multipliers on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5*1.5 = 2.25. Multiply these values times the formula for the Reputation Strength and you'll have a way to compare. Their modified Reputation Strengths (3) are equal at Disgrace 60, corresponding to a Forsaken costing 16EE.

(1) The EE cost formula for standard/Animalistic Forsaken is (1000)(1/2)^(x/10), where x is the Disgrace. The same formula for Undead Forsaken is (250)(1/2)^(x/10). If we increase the Disgrace of an Animalistic Forsaken by 20, we get the expression
(1000)(1/2)^[(x + 20)/10]
(1000)(1/2)^(x / 10 + 20/10)
(1000)(1/2)^(x/10 + 2)
1000(1/2)^(x/10) * (1/2)^2
1000(1/4)(1/2)^(x/10)
= 250(1/2)^(x/10) -- same as the Undead formula.

(2) The formula for Reputation Strength is just (200 - 2x)%.

(3) The modified Reputation Strength ( y ) of an Animalistic would be 2.25(200 - 2x).
The modified Reputation Strength of an Undead with the same cost would be 1.5(200 - 2x + 40), since the 20 lower disgrace will improve Reputation Strength by 40 (keeping cost the same).
Then solve the system of equations:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 2.25(200 - 2x_2)
I won't work out that algebra here, but the solution is the point (60, 180), meaning they both have a modified Reputation Strength of 180 at a Disgrace of 60 (80 for Undead). This corresponds to a cost of 16EE for both Chosen.

(4) If you want to compare Undead to the first summon of Negotiated (Playful Energy) Animalistic, the new multiplier is 1.5 * 2 = 3. So that is just the solution to the system:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 3(200 - 2x_2)
The solution to this system is the point (80, 120), meaning that they're equal when the Animalistic has 80 Disgrace (the Undead will have 60). This corresponds to a cost of 4EE for both.

It's a good thing the undead inflection point is below 16, so the 9EE forsaken still reigns supreme for their species.

 

[Quiet Days]

Forsaken math post: At what cost are distorted Undead (with the same modifiers) better than distorted Animalistic? When are Animalistics stronger?

TL: DR Undead are better when cost is below 16EE. At costs greater than 16EE, Animalistic are stronger for the same cost. These breakpoints happen at 60 Disgrace for Animalistic, or 40 Disgrace for Undead.

f you're instead comparing Undead to the full Stamina summon of a Flexible Peacemaker (Playful Energy), the breakpoint is instead 4EE (4). This cost is at 80 Disgrace for Animalistic or 60 Disgrace for Undead.

The math is below this line.

The difference of cost between the two of 1/4 is equivalent to Undead having 20 higher Disgrace than Animalistic. (1).

20 higher Disgrace means that at the same cost, Undead will have 40 higher Reputation Strength. (2)

The two have different multipliers. The Undead multiplier on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5. The Animalistic multipliers on damage, assuming a relevant Distortion, is 1.5*1.5 = 2.25. Multiply these values times the formula for the Reputation Strength and you'll have a way to compare. Their modified Reputation Strengths (3) are equal at Disgrace 60, corresponding to a Forsaken costing 16EE.

(1) The EE cost formula for standard/Animalistic Forsaken is (1000)(1/2)^(x/10), where x is the Disgrace. The same formula for Undead Forsaken is (250)(1/2)^(x/10). If we increase the Disgrace of an Animalistic Forsaken by 20, we get the expression
(1000)(1/2)^[(x + 20)/10]
(1000)(1/2)^(x / 10 + 20/10)
(1000)(1/2)^(x/10 + 2)
1000(1/2)^(x/10) * (1/2)^2
1000(1/4)(1/2)^(x/10)
= 250(1/2)^(x/10) -- same as the Undead formula.

(2) The formula for Reputation Strength is just (200 - 2x)%.

(3) The modified Reputation Strength ( y ) of an Animalistic would be 2.25(200 - 2x).
The modified Reputation Strength of an Undead with the same cost would be 1.5(200 - 2x + 40), since the 20 lower disgrace will improve Reputation Strength by 40 (keeping cost the same).
Then solve the system of equations:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 2.25(200 - 2x_2)
I won't work out that algebra here, but the solution is the point (60, 180), meaning they both have a modified Reputation Strength of 180 at a Disgrace of 60 (80 for Undead). This corresponds to a cost of 16EE for both Chosen.

(4) If you want to compare Undead to the first summon of Negotiated (Playful Energy) Animalistic, the new multiplier is 1.5 * 2 = 3. So that is just the solution to the system:
y_1 = 1.5(200 - 2x_1 + 40)
y_2 = 3(200 - 2x_2)
The solution to this system is the point (80, 120), meaning that they're equal when the Animalistic has 80 Disgrace (the Undead will have 60). This corresponds to a cost of 4EE for both.

Do you have the rep str formula for demon knights? the formula must have at least 2 variables (disgrace/EE) so it can't be the (200-2x)% for them.

 

[An Anon Anon]

Hello you two, and several others I have seen lately that want to get into this game, but are having trouble figuring it out. I have created a new in-game version of the Play-and-Learn Walkthrough. The file you need is attached to this post.

Thanks a ton! I really appreciate the work you put into this.