Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 70b] [CSDev]

[Kalloi]

Hello, having an issue getting Kalloi, Resplendent Tones (I also downloaded the updated version within this thread) to work. I'm able to import it at the beginning but I cannot load the chosen within the game. I would appreciate any help.

Thank you

I've tested it with this recent build and everything seems to be working, you aren't the only person to say this recently so I wonder what's going on?

I'll add it here just in case, let me know if there's still problems!

 

[Qazex Saw]

Apparently, other tier 3 breaks are (somewhat) more controllable, yay! On the not so yay side-

Probably shouldn't have skipped so much text in between turns because I now have no idea why a the chosen are getting 1/10, 1/100 etc reductions to trauma.
Trying to get a chosen to tier 3 dignity break and she keeps getting 1/1000 reduction in shame which makes it really hard to raise this while avoiding getting her minors to a tier-3.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Probably shouldn't have skipped so much text in between turns because I now have no idea why a the chosen are getting 1/10, 1/100 etc reductions to trauma.

Yeah. When they take tier 3 corrupted actions, they become more corrupted towards tier 4. But on the other hand, they also do powerful actions.

First they go up a tier in the relevant circumstance (eg from 25 to 100 or from 553 to 1000). Then they use the new tier level as X.

Slaughter: reduce the other surrounds by X turns
Hypnotize: reduce 1 of their own trauma by 1/X*10
Detonate: reduce their own surround by X turns
Striptease: reduce other surrounds damage by (some formula)

You need to trigger these to be able to get to tier 4, but they also make life more difficult for you.

 

[Qazex Saw]

Yeah. When they take tier 3 corrupted actions, they become more corrupted towards tier 4. But on the other hand, they also do powerful actions.

First they go up a tier in the relevant circumstance (eg from 25 to 100 or from 553 to 1000). Then they use the new tier level as X.

Slaughter: reduce the other surrounds by X turns
Hypnotize: reduce 1 of their own trauma by 1/X*10
Detonate: reduce their own surround by X turns
Striptease: reduce other surrounds damage by (some formula)

You need to trigger these to be able to get to tier 4, but they also make life more difficult for you.

Oohhh, that explains it.
Now gotta find a way to work around this I guess.
Damn I wish I knew earlier, then I definitely would have kept innocence break for last. That 1/X trauma reduction really makes it hard to get the other values to tier 3 if you let it stack.

 

[Ragsmu]

Oohhh, that explains it.
Now gotta find a way to work around this I guess.
Damn I wish I knew earlier, then I definitely would have kept innocence break for last. That 1/X trauma reduction really makes it hard to get the other values to tier 3 if you let it stack.

technically speaking 1 good orgy should straight up pre break all or at least most of your t3. just need good 3 capture commander to capture all the girls together.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

Damn I wish I knew earlier, then I definitely would have kept innocence break for last. That 1/X trauma reduction really makes it hard to get the other values to tier 3 if you let it stack.

Honestly, I think it's the least impactful if you plan for it to happen. They only change it for 1 location and only for themselves.
At that stage in the game you can control for them to never not be surrounded. They can't fantasize (innocence tier 3 break ability) if they're surrounded.

 

[Qazex Saw]

technically speaking 1 good orgy should straight up pre break all or at least most of your t3. just need good 3 capture commander to capture all the girls together.

Huh, I'll try that out. Got all the core breaks more or less so just mass-breaking everything sounds nice.

Striptease: reduce other surrounds damage by (some formula)

Side note, striptease damage reduction formula seems to be 1/2^expo level

edit: never let em not be surrounded, noted.

 

[Konnect]

I've tested it with this recent build and everything seems to be working, you aren't the only person to say this recently so I wonder what's going on?

I'll add it here just in case, let me know if there's still problems!

Thank you so very much! I appreciate the time you spent creating the guide! It's just so much knowledge. I'm just following, going through the motions. I know it will click like everything else when learning something new. Thanks!

 

[Azur3cross]

I really do not understand what I'm suppose to do in this. Like, there's some kind of guide for telling me what it wants me to do, but it does things like 'break this one's tier 1, now do 10000 to this other person who you weren't working on at all'. And i'm missing something I think, because I don't understand how to get more evil points without breaking the ones i don't want to for the distortion paths. Is it safe if I only break T1/2 and just avoid T3 breaks?

 

[Ragsmu]

I really do not understand what I'm suppose to do in this. Like, there's some kind of guide for telling me what it wants me to do, but it does things like 'break this one's tier 1, now do 10000 to this other person who you weren't working on at all'. And i'm missing something I think, because I don't understand how to get more evil points without breaking the ones i don't want to for the distortion paths. Is it safe if I only break T1/2 and just avoid T3 breaks?

This is Game about multipliers. you need to figure how they work and dance from there. Also you need to learn to use commander. Without any suppresor/punisher upgrades. just a manual commander.one with 4 or 5 turns and 2 captures will do. with proper point economy you will get it by turn 12. after that you can freely break a core weakness per turn. as you start breaking cores you will get influx of EE to get more upgrades. distortions are harder to achieve than normal break, they will change the way you approach said chosen. also they would require you to use orgy to trigger - which again will require upgraded commander to setup. and you still want to break t3 and t4 without it you are likely wont be able to win at day 50 since you wont have enough points to buy resolve reducing upgrades. i mean i think some distortion path can be finished off without those upgrades, but as i was saying distortion is generally harder to achieve.



Edit:
2 Step guide will be

1) turns 1-12 just do whatever and save points. all you need t ocare about is doing enough reauma damage on a girls that freshly join the team so you get 1EE from them on the same turn they join. this way by the turn 12 you will have enough upgrades and points to make 4 turn 2 capture commander.

2) as long as you have 4/2 commander - that is enough for t1 and maybe t2 core breaks. there you just need to experiment with the way you play the commander. remember HATE and INJU give multipliers on circumstantial damage for the character that they are used on. EXPO gives multiplier to damage on other characters.

Extra point - as long as you surround someone while there is still not finished extermination going on - you will have an option to surround them later one more time, as long as someone else is surrounded even if extermination time has run out.

 

[Chekhovs_Ghost]

distortions are harder to achieve than normal break, they will change the way you approach said chosen. also they would require you to use orgy to trigger

What? When I went for distortion (rampage), I specifically avoided orgies. That Chosen only had tier 2 breaks. I just mostly let her rampage while I focused on surrounding the other two.

 

[haksaw]

What?

Orgies, or rather joining any group defile action doesn't count as break action. So if sodomize, for example, would break vuln you need to avoid for distortion, joining 2nd for double sodomize doesn't count as sodomize action and won't break vuln. That's the way to avoid breaks while upping circ lvles. I never did a rampancy distortion, but by the description nothing prevents her from going into orgies as long as you keep her Inju lvl higher than Hate.

 

[Ragsmu]

What? When I went for distortion (rampage), I specifically avoided orgies. That Chosen only had tier 2 breaks. I just mostly let her rampage while I focused on surrounding the other two.

For aversion you need 10 turn orgy for example just to trigger it. For negotiation iirc you need somethink like 1G of unresolved angst
even rampancy needs 15 turn surround. First 2 are not really achievable without orgy. Rampancy is easier but then it's harder to use her in orgy with others (but that depends on her weakness to hate and inju - if she weak to hate you are royally screwed)

 

[Contemplative Yearning]

So I made a portrait pack for this game, but because I don't use F95, I can't post a link to it here. You can find it on the dev's website, unsurprisingly under "portrait packs." At time of posting it's a little over half done, with 30 of 48 All 48 Chosen portraits are done and ready to go, each with a civilian transformation as well.

All images created with NovelAI, I take no credit for their existence, etc, etc,

EDIT: Each girl has two extra expressions in this pack, Smug, and Used. The game doesn't call these, (As of v37 it does) they're meant to replace Joy and Lewd, depending on the girl's personality and corruption. Make your own judgement call as to when to swap them out. Or do it immediately if you like them better. I'm not your dad.

UPDATE: As of version 37, Smug and Used now replace Joy and Lewd when used by Forsaken. Big thank you to CSDev for adding native support for my portraits.

 

[Azur3cross]

Hm...new thought/question. If I lose in campaign mode, does it still create a new loop, or does it not progress since I believe it's suppose to get harder as you go?

 

[Ragsmu]

Hm...new thought/question. If I lose in campaign mode, does it still create a new loop, or does it not progress since I believe it's suppose to get harder as you go?

Short answer - no new loop

Spoiler: Slightly spoilery answer

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[Chekhovs_Ghost]

So I made a portrait pack for this game, but because I don't use F95, I can't post a link to it here. You can find it on the dev's website, unsurprisingly under "portrait packs." At time of posting it's a little over half done, with 30 of 49 portraits ready to go, each with a civilian transformation as well.

All images created with NovelAI, I take no credit for their existence, etc, etc,

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Looks quite good. I've scoured both the blog and the subcribestar site but can't find your portrait pack. Link to where I can find it so I can include it in the post that links to all portrait packs?

 

[Kalloi]

Looks quite good. I've scoured both the blog and the subcribestar site but can't find your portrait pack. Link to where I can find it so I can include it in the post that links to all portrait packs?

It should be in the replies for the recent post (Also tried the portrait pack and think the girls are really cute!)
I'll also post the link here:

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Lord Lewdenhall let me know if you'd rather post the link yourself and I'll just delete this one

Also if you don't mind me asking, how did you generate the bonus scenes for your characters? After hearing and seeing Hongfire Survivor's portraits using stable diffusion I thought it would be cool to make some scenes for my characters and use them as a concept and example for my own drawings, but haven't any luck thinking how to word the prompts and tags or even what images to use as an example. (Really new to this kind of stuff haha)

There's also some of the characters in your pack I would use as inspiration for some more chosen designs I need to make for pack, would you be fine with that? I'll properly credit you in my pack as well

 

[Hongfire Survivor]

It should be in the replies for the recent post (Also tried the portrait pack and think the girls are really cute!)
I'll also post the link here:
Mega

Lord Lewdenhall let me know if you'd rather post the link yourself and I'll just delete this one

Also if you don't mind me asking, how did you generate the bonus scenes for your characters? After hearing and seeing Hongfire Survivor's portraits using stable diffusion I thought it would be cool to make some scenes for my characters and use them as a concept and example for my own drawings, but haven't any luck thinking how to word the prompts and tags or even what images to use as an example. (Really new to this kind of stuff haha)

There's also some of the characters in your pack I would use as inspiration for some more chosen designs I need to make for pack, would you be fine with that? I'll properly credit you in my pack as well

So to clarify, I used Stable Diffusion WebGUI with NovelAI's model.

You will not get the results as easily as I got without using NovelAI. They trained it on (most likely) hundreds of professional anime images from well maintained websites.

I didn't scrub any metadata from the pictures so if you are also using a webGUI, you can download the pics and toss them into img2img and grab the prompts I used.

For example:

This was generated using Novel AI's model:

Prompts:

masterpiece, best quality, portrait of a young dark skinned woman in a stylish archer outfit with medium hair, yellow eyes, honey hair, face, medium breasts, braids, ((torso focus)), ((((drawn by Tetsuya Nomura))))



In regular SD I get this with the same prompts with Anime added:



Depending on the model (checkpoint) used, they are biased towards certain content. SD is much better for realistic and more western style illustrations. Novel AI is heavy towards anime.

EDIT: Here is a great guide on Prompts from OpenAI (Dall-E 2's creators)

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[Hongfire Survivor]

So I made a portrait pack for this game, but because I don't use F95, I can't post a link to it here. You can find it on the dev's website, unsurprisingly under "portrait packs." At time of posting it's a little over half done, with 30 of 49 portraits ready to go, each with a civilian transformation as well.

All images created with NovelAI, I take no credit for their existence, etc, etc,

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Beat me to it

Nice work though, love this AI stuff.

Does the game really use the Used.png? I've never seen it

EDIT: THE BONUSES