VN Ren'Py Abandoned Corrupting Everwood [v1.5] [AJLee7385]

[Erik1986]

Shame to hear you say that, and at the same time i can understand your frustration at the comments. I do hope that in the future you decide to give it a go again. I would say your best bet would be to just find a fresh new idee, work it out for yourself and not publish it here right away. Just use it to get your inspiration and will to create back.

Also, maybe try making it one protag (male or female) next time, that way there is less stress on your end, and less people whining about why their prefered path has less content etc.

Good luck, and dont let the negative comments keep you down.

 

[UtsukushiiHaruka]

That's a little bit unfair to abandon the project before I add my mustard to the plate. I played from this page around 10 unfinished games. This one here is the most chaotic so far. Only one gender choice is accepted (female), the others result in exceptions. The images are taken raw from porn stars (?) and sometimes/often don't fit together in the style. The plot seems to be a little bit strange. Who am I as a player and what shall be the part of those porn stars? There is obviously some vision behind all that, but I have real difficulties in finding. The developer must be a real genius, mixing those ingredients together and still seeing his original vision. This game really stands out of the rest I played until now.

It's hard to describe. It is planned chaos. I don't even say anything against using commercial porn images - this is the underground here. However I cannot see the vision of the game.

 

[AJLee7385]

That's a little bit unfair to abandon the project before I add my mustard to the plate. I played from this page around 10 unfinished games. This one here is the most chaotic so far. Only one gender choice is accepted (female), the others result in exceptions. The images are taken raw from porn stars (?) and sometimes/often don't fit together in the style. The plot seems to be a little bit strange. Who am I as a player and what shall be the part of those porn stars? There is obviously some vision behind all that, but I have real difficulties in finding. The developer must be a real genius, mixing those ingredients together and still seeing his original vision. This game really stands out of the rest I played until now.

It's hard to describe. It is planned chaos. I don't even say anything against using commercial porn images - this is the underground here. However I cannot see the vision of the game.

which is exactly why i abandoned it because even though have a few fans two many of you trash my hard work

 

[UtsukushiiHaruka]

It's not my intention to say it's bad. Personally I know that developing a game is tough. Writing your own code without the help of RPG Maker, other gaming kits or whatever is even harder. But you have to tell me your vision, because I don't understand it. Do you want to tell a story, show pictures, follow several plot strings or what else is your goal?

 

[AJLee7385]

my ultimate goal was a sandbox.

have you played the company or a spell for all

its supposed to be like those with my own twist.

ive tried it twice now lol my biggest hurdles was the sandbox stuff.

Anyway my vision was and to be honest still is to create a game where your trying ti stop the bad guy buy catching them all before he does. However if your not careful you end up becomes him.

certain characters are designed special with certain paths in mind

Take Korra she was designed specially for trans character at first but i moved her to lesbian as well

Dani is specifically there to show how everything can go right or horible wrong if you fuel her prosiotitution doctor deen is supposed eventual steal her and uses her against you.

but its also supposed to be a choice.

So when you stuff like go to the lab and investigate or work with penny like you do in company its supposed to help you learn more about the boss and his plans.

The girls were essentially way to build up your army against him.

but i couldn't get sand box or help like i wanted and obviously sorely needed.

I didnt want to trash I still have it and all my files for it.

 

[AJLee7385]

The plan was after all the intro stuff people could go around maybe find a job at the restaurant for money

train your magic in the forest or gather resources which you use to buy building upgrades like training room extra bedrooms sex dungeon stuff like that.

or visit the girls to build you relationship.

but the story stuff no matter the arc i was going with was always supposed to lead back to the company where the story starts to progress more.

 

[UtsukushiiHaruka]

The company ... no, I have not heard of those games yet.
A sandbox, well, that can be really difficult to achieve if I understand correctly what you mean. Do you know "Honey Select"? That's awesome, but doing it myself would be a horror for me. So much programing. C# and stuff. Could be difficult to get around programing yourself, when you want anything only half complex as that. Specialized kits are mostly suitable for one task only. Renpy is some sort of Powerpoint with specials. That's perhaps not exactly the tool you would need. That could be the reason why I was of the opinion that it is so chaotic - because you wanted to make something that is not really supported by renpy.

 

[AJLee7385]

i tried twine first but that was a night mare for me

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-company-v4-0-1-westane.4153/

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-spell-for-all-v14-10-3-cmacleod42.571/

if you check both out youll see what i was trying to do i couldn't do it with twine so tried doing it with renpy lol but that didnt work either.

 

[UtsukushiiHaruka]

Ah, ok, that are those other games you made where some people said, ok, I understand.
Actually I had no idea what "Twine" is ... perhaps something to drink. I see, a html story creater software. Well, could be hard to doing a real sandbox with it. It's more for those Edgar Wallace crime novels where you can sometimes throw a dice and decide what page to read next if the dice result + the character attribut in strength or whatever is bigger than x.

 

[Erik1986]

While not hugely popular here, rpg maker is a solid program to use as a basic pladform for making free-roam/sandbox games with, especialy since you can dress it up in many ways to hide the mere fact it is rpg-maker. I know a few games that run on the engine that use combinations of it and vn-style rendered pictures to tell their story.

Now you could try using other game-engines as your basis to support the free-roam/sandbox part, but something like rpg-maker or similar can help to create less hassle for you on that aspect of your game.

QSP and RAGS are another option to streamline your coding and make it easier to create sandbox games, aldo again each one of those has its fans and haters. QSP is the more dificult of the 2, but relatively free. RAGS isnt a free to use tool, thought it has a limited free version and is pretty easy to work with.

Lastly, you could make a smaller, more focused game, perhaps one set in the past of your current games plot. Say you give us a look at Docter Deen, and what made him the bad guy, or anny other plot hooks you might want to explore. Think of it as a intro game to get a better grasp of your chosen engine. Scale down the premise a bit, and maybe make it a vn-style short game for now to get used to the engine and get better at plotting your narative.

So finaly, dont give up because of anonymous commenters giving you lip or such about your game, make the game your way, how you want it. If people dont like it, screw them, its your game and you make it your way. Dont let people take the fun out of it for you, or tell you how and what to do. Let yourself learn from what you create, and by time you will get better at making a story come to live how you imagine it. Good luck.

 

[MooseMager]

Sorry to hear this has been abandoned; I understand why AJLee7385 chose to though, I would have pulled the plug much sooner.

It is a sad thing to see someone passionate about creating something, and then having the mindless masses that have zero concept of what you are working with and doing and forcefully inject their opinions and thoughts as if they matter.

UtsukushiiHaruka as a perfect example; this "thing" is rambling back and forth about different topics and how things can be done differently with zero actual helpful comments.

As ironic as this piece of advice is to the OP; Follow your own voice, do not let others dictate how you decide to do things, but also learn from them. Learn from the idiot who has nothing helpful to say (you'll learn to dismiss these people quicker over time and can quickly spot out the useless insects like the aforementioned commenter so that they will not be a drain on your energy), and learn from the successful developer, see what they did right and what they did wrong and learn from it in the manner you see fit.

All the best luck to you in your future projects!


I wouldn't want to create/share a work of art with individuals who are nothing but bratty and entitled, and when they are called out for being what they are; they feign innocence and play the victim.

 

[Morkar]

A shame, maybe you wanted to cover too much and having little experience it has been too much In your next attempt, easily throw a single character and a single plot and when it is finished, if you want, add a trans female pf or whatever you want, but if you focus on only one thing and don't go around the bush it could be better.

 

[ymudds]

Serious, ITS ABANDONDED? like the last game, why, honestly if people are being too ridiculously negative then ignore them, the sand box idea you have is already a good one, ASFA is one of my favorites so just keep going with your idea, if you see some good criticism or some advice/tips/more things to add then think about it if it will be cool and you can do it and if it wont ruin the plan of the game

 

[TyranntX]

Rest in peace, Lauren Scott