Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.15] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daken9]

What do you mean? These characters exist, ultimately, to be jack off material for players. Again, I WOULD agree with you if your only problem was that the content was sorta unavoidable, but if the game spells out what the content is explicitly, why do you have a problem with it existing? Maybe some people are into Amily and Urta fucking, or whatever flavor of cuck content in CoC2 people have a problem with, and I fully believe they deserve to have their weird kink catered to.

If you aren't into that, you can avoid it and you lose literally nothing. Assuming it's optional, it only taints the character for you if you choose to engage with that content and don't like it, which is like, your fault? Idk, I personally don't think it's fair to get upset at content you can choose not to engage with. Just consider it non canon for your playthrough or something idk lol

Literally everything is good if you just ignore the bad, so don't get that outlook. And since we're talking basic character consistency in a text-based game, not exactly your run-of-the-mill quick fap no string attached, i get it even less.

But either way, what i'm saying is that there's a time and a place. Like, cuck rights yay but this isn't a NTR game and NTR isn't a beloved kink. Doesn't mean that stuff shouldn't be in the game at all (although i don't think there's any use in having much of it 'cause again not NTR game), just that it should be handled carefully when it is. Which really means, keep it to characters who are built for it and that's pretty much it, just like Fleep is doing with his demon chicks. He outright stated, righ in here even, that they'll be able to cuck us and no one gave him shit for it because why would you. They're built for that, their target gonna be Cait so who cares, and those of us not into it will be (and in fact already are) given some reverse NTR of our own. Handled right, so nothing to bitch about.

Also not sure where you got the idea most of this stuff is avoidable, or that the game spells it out. With Atugia she's super into you and then she's sucking off Arona, with Azzy she's super into you and then goes full lesbo and gets shit going with Brienne and Liaden, with Agni it's admittedly a living dildo situation and then she fucks the hellhound (although that might have been changed), ecc. The only one who's straight from the get-go about the fuckbuddy status is, ironically, Cait. Everyone else is all waifu, and then they're fucking other people. But i guess it's on me for not being able to just ignore, maybe next time i'll do some head meet wall or some shit

 

[Biostar]

Luna is in the Xianxia mod. My feeling on her is pretty much the same as Urta. A character who may appeal to others, but not me. The only reason I say Luna warrants the remove option is because once you recruit her I believe you are stuck with her, and the only way to remove her is by using the cheat menu. I would have to double check that.

What's wrong with Luna?

 

[Skandranon]

Also not sure where you got the idea most of this stuff is avoidable, or that the game spells it out. With Atugia she's super into you and then she's sucking off Arona, with Azzy she's super into you and then goes full lesbo and gets shit going with Brienne and Liaden, with Agni it's admittedly a living dildo situation and then she fucks the hellhound (although that might have been changed), ecc. The only one who's straight from the get-go about the fuckbuddy status is, ironically, Cait. Everyone else is all waifu, and then they're fucking other people. But i guess it's on me for not being able to just ignore, maybe next time i'll do some head meet wall or some shit

See, I don't get this. To me, it seems like you're defaulting anyone who doesn't explicitly say otherwise to instantly monogamous and being disappointed when they aren't.

Atugia isn't really super into you. She's not your girlfriend, as far as I know she never says she loves you, you and her don't really establish as of yet any deeper connection than having sex and being friendly with each other...and everyone else in your party meets those same qualifications.

Azzy's entire introduction establishes that she's part of a hive, and she feels cut off when she's not around large amounts of people. The whole reason she latches onto you in the first place is because she's desperate for any kind of companionship since she can't be near everyone in her hive.

Imo, it's easier and makes more sense in the setting that''s been established to assume everyone is down for casual sex with different partners as the default and not the other way around. The people who aren't generally explicitly say so, like Brienne and Kiyoko.

 

[dxd]

What's wrong with Luna?

She's a yandere character

 

[MissBlackthorne]

In the case of the Amily x Urta scene IIRC Amily basically goes over to call Urta a partner stealing hussy, but the two get drunk during said confrontation (which for a smol mouse girl who doesnt seem to be used to drinking wouldnt be hard). We all know urta is a horny drunk and I know personally I have mad some utterly retarded decisions when drunk, especially if emotional, so I can see why they'd possibly end up fucking.

I also know this can feel like a betrayal to people, but I think you can tell em to knock it off anyway.

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Back to CoC2 however, I think if they leaned into Quin actively trying to make amends and not acting so over confident, 'I'm fuckings gift to man' sorta thing, he'd be more tolerable. Like if he were to get more scenes where either we take him by surprise during sex and show him pleasures he hasnt experienced much are worth it or where he ensures you feel important to him in some manner, rather than a quick fuck while he spouts off a the things he could do with his magic, it would be more fun.

Alternatively if he started to follow through his threats of using his magic, exhausting you entirely through rapid successive fucks.

 

[namelessone22]

Hi folks, just wondering how to start the new Mai content (what has to be done to trigger event)

*Also I saw the code to put in if you'd already done Miko's preg event

"P.S. If you’ve already done Miko’s path but want to see Mai’s without starting a whole new save, you can hit F12 and slam this into the console:

flags.MAIDENS_PREG_PATH = flags.MAIDENS_PREG_TS =
flags.MIKO_PREG_REQ = flags.MIKO_PREG_NUM_KIDS =
flags.MIKO_PREG_NUM_BIRTHS = flags.MIKO_PREG_ANN = undefined;
PregManager.preg(GLOBALS.PREG_MIKO).debugEndPregnancy();"

*Will this work on the OFFLINE PC DL?

 

[Daken9]

See, I don't get this. To me, it seems like you're defaulting anyone who doesn't explicitly say otherwise to instantly monogamous and being disappointed when they aren't.

No one operates under the assumption that the fantasy porn game will third-wheel them at every chance unless told otherwise.

Also: Aileh, Atani, Brienne, Cassia, Cat Harem, Clementhine, Elthara, Eubicha, Gwyneth, Hellhound, Hreatha, Infrith, Livrea, Kiyoko, Ragnild, Rina, Rindo, Serena, Shar, Valencia, Vari, Vatia, Zo.

And that's without counting the more casual ones like Kohaku, Vatia, Hethia ecc, or the bluerrier ones like subArona, Zhara, Kurako, every KM cow, and all them others.

So yeah, Kiyoko and Brienne aren't the exceptions, and it's not really rare at all for people to be solely into PC when we're talking relationships deeper than random encounters (hence every pregnancy character being in that first list). Because that's what people are into. As opposed to getting fucked on by your own companions because "cashaul shex makesh shenshe in-univershe" (but more like writers make a mess of their characters because reasons).

 

[confusedcommoner]

Hi folks, just wondering how to start the new Mai content (what has to be done to trigger event)
*Also I saw the code to put in if you'd already done Miko's preg event
"P.S. If you’ve already done Miko’s path but want to see Mai’s without starting a whole new save, you can hit F12 and slam this into the console:
*Will this work on the OFFLINE PC DL?

No but you can work around it. Open CoC II.exe from your offline PC DL, load the save you want to use, then Save it To File (buttons on the right side of the save/load menu). Navigate to coc 2\resources\app and open or drag the index.html on a browser. Load your save using To File, and then use F12, or right click on the webpage and select Inspect, then navigate to the Console tab. Enter your commands, save your game To File. Now you can load the save elsewhere if you want

See, I don't get this. To me, it seems like you're defaulting anyone who doesn't explicitly say otherwise to instantly monogamous and being disappointed when they aren't.
Imo, it's easier and makes more sense in the setting that's been established to assume everyone is down for casual sex with different partners as the default and not the other way around.

I don't think it's fair to make that assumption when the first person you meet has a giant disclaimer about sleeping around because Savin knows the average player expects monogamy. If it were as common as you're suggesting in-universe, or in real life, then Cait's lengthy speech just comes off as weird. That's one thing Cait actually does well, no waifubaiting into a blindside hit. Azzy, Atugia, etc. waifubait, and then randomly sleep around with no forewarning or player input. In the case of things like Atugia+Brint there's player input, but it feels strongly out of place with the rest of Atugia's content. Etheryn is another weird case, where "high libido" unintuitively means she's more poly, and sometimes they're lazy with the variables so "high libido" content crosses over into all forms of Etheryn.

I just avoid characters like Azzy+Liaden but I get why people get upset about it. It's time that could've been spent on the original audience/theme of the character and PC instead of incongruous content. It's another lost opportunity for player agency, and people can get attached to characters pre-poly content and then have it thrust upon them months later in an update.

If you aren't into that, you can avoid it and you lose literally nothing. Just consider it non canon for your playthrough or something

I cover it above but to summarize: it's discordant with the original premise of the character, can take away development time on the expected content for the character, can come out of nowhere months later, is often unavoidable or easy to stumble into, and for some it affects their perception of who the character is. Many wouldn't care if the content existed but was attached to specific characters from the start.

 

[Gar1]

No one operates under the assumption that the fantasy porn game will third-wheel them at every chance unless told otherwise.

Also: Aileh, Atani, Brienne, Cassia, Cat Harem, Clementhine, Elthara, Eubicha, Gwyneth, Hellhound, Hreatha, Infrith, Livrea, Kiyoko, Ragnild, Rina, Rindo, Serena, Shar, Valencia, Vari, Vatia, Zo.

I don't post very often cause I haven't played the game in months, and I don't know much about most Khor'Minos characters, but
"Aileh, Cat Harem, Elthara, Eubicha, Gwyneth, Hellhound, Livrea, Vari, Vatia"
"solely into PC, no casual sex"
Maybe that would have been accurate when each of them was added to the game, but bruh, either we have wildly differing views on what solely into the PC means or you need to brush up on those characters current and upcoming content.

 

[Wrynn13]

I'm pretty sure the Azzy Lia thing was fixed so you can tell her to not do it now and she agrees, at least that was stated but I haven't seen it cause I don't care when my girls are sexing each other up as to me that's part of being in a harem *shrug*

 

[confusedcommoner]

I'm pretty sure the Azzy Lia thing was fixed so you can tell her to not do it now and she agrees, at least that was stated but I haven't seen it cause I don't care when my girls are sexing each other up as to me that's part of being in a harem *shrug*

True, it was annoying and people complained, so Savin got SKoW to change it. You can help them hook up, say "not right now," or say "never." Azzy will remain polyamorous regardless, but at least you can opt out of Azzy+Liaden content now.

 

[Saline55]

No one operates under the assumption that the fantasy porn game will third-wheel them at every chance unless told otherwise.

Also: Aileh, Atani, Brienne, Cassia, Cat Harem, Clementhine, Elthara, Eubicha, Gwyneth, Hellhound, Hreatha, Infrith, Livrea, Kiyoko, Ragnild, Rina, Rindo, Serena, Shar, Valencia, Vari, Vatia, Zo.

And that's without counting the more casual ones like Kohaku, Vatia, Hethia ecc, or the bluerrier ones like subArona, Zhara, Kurako, every KM cow, and all them others.

So yeah, Kiyoko and Brienne aren't the exceptions, and it's not really rare at all for people to be solely into PC when we're talking relationships deeper than random encounters (hence every pregnancy character being in that first list). Because that's what people are into. As opposed to getting fucked on by your own companions because "cashaul shex makesh shenshe in-univershe" (but more like writers make a mess of their characters because reasons).

Casual sex makes sense in universe. Yes. Man children I swear. Acting as if they have got monopoly on good writing.

 

[Basty96]

Harem animes really got some dudes brains rotten. They act like jealous manbabies even when drowning in pussy. Calling characters lesbos when they arent sucking their dicks 24/7. whack as shit lol

aight Savin go back to your Discord the problem is that that shit comes out of the left field when you least expect it

 

[Basty96]

Casual sex makes sense in universe. Yes. Man children I swear. Acting as if they have got monopoly on good writing.

good writing? what good writing? the only good stuff comes from WSan and two or three others

 

[Raf-Raf]

Saline, Savin.
IT sounds similar.

 

[Goblina Lover]

good writing

i have yet to see a porn game with genuine good writing.
This game is and has always been glorified fetish fanfic.

 

[Fiz1247]

Harem animes really got some dudes brains rotten. They act like jealous manbabies even when drowning in pussy. Calling characters lesbos when they arent sucking their dicks 24/7. whack as shit lol

Casual sex makes sense in universe. Yes. Man children I swear. Acting as if they have got monopoly on good writing.

I know right? What a bunch of incels and misanthropes for not letting their wife to fuck other people. You were right all along Savin.

 

[Skandranon]

No one operates under the assumption that the fantasy porn game will third-wheel them at every chance unless told otherwise.

The assumption that makes sense is that NPCs do the same thing you're doing. Your character fucks anything with a pulse, so why shouldn't anyone else?

You might not like it from a meta standpoint, but saying it makes the characters look schizophrenic just seems off. Their characterization (at least that part of it) is consistent.

Also: Aileh, Atani, Brienne, Cassia, Cat Harem, Clementhine, Elthara, Eubicha, Gwyneth, Hellhound, Hreatha, Infrith, Livrea, Kiyoko, Ragnild, Rina, Rindo, Serena, Shar, Valencia, Vari, Vatia, Zo.

Some else mentioned this....but a chunk of those characters aren't monogamous at all. And its not like I was naming all the mono characters in the game, it was just an example.

Because that's what people are into.

People are into literally everything. The whole point of a fetish game is to cater to the few, not the majority. If this game solely catered to what most people were into, it'd be a very different game.

I cover it above but to summarize: it's discordant with the original premise of the character, can take away development time on the expected content for the character, can come out of nowhere months later, is often unavoidable or easy to stumble into, and for some it affects their perception of who the character is. Many wouldn't care if the content existed but was attached to specific characters from the start.

The problem is that this is a game in dev, not some ongoing live service game. By defi ition stuff is incomplete. Getting attached to things and then being upset when they change seems counter intuitive; its baked into the concept.

 

[A Burning Conscience]

I do not see why "In universe" CoC2, the world of Savarra, is hyper-sexualized. It's a setting that got nuked back to the bronze age and is meant to be more grounded that CoC and TiTS.

Compare to CoC, where the sexualization makes sense because it's a world AFTER the corruption, where Tel-adre is the closest place to normality and even they've been twisted by the demon's influence to the point that everyone has a super charged libido. You also start that game with an imp giving you a rude awakening, making it clear what you're in for in this world.

Then compare to TiTS, where it's a completely insane, hedonistic universe where technology has allowed body-modding to become a pastime. It doesn't care about if it makes sense to us, because it's a premise you're asked to accept at the outset that this universe is a slutty one. It starts you off with your dad's sexual exploits and makes it clear in the dialogue that everyone is up for sex and designer babies are the norm.

Then we get CoC2, which starts you with a generic DnD style tavern, a cat girl begs for aide and you go out to fight cultists. It's not sexualized, you're fighting people with the intent to kill and they're doing the same. You beat (or lose, it actually doesn't matter) the cult leader and suddenly a demon appears and then everyone is slutty. Prior to Kas the world was not meant to be corrupted, it was a collection of dying feudal and imperial nations trying to cling on, that doesn't scream hyper-sexualization. Lore was written AFTER that point that makes the world sex-obsessed, but it wasn't there at the start (save for Cait, who I've not had a problem with her being a slut, I have other problems with her but she's honest that she's a temple harlot and that is a thing from history. But I don't think we can say all of Babylon was obsessed with sex just because they had religious prostitutes.) Hells, you have scenes in the Wayfort where people make note of how sexual the place is if you keep the Hornet Queen's stocks, which makes it seem that overly sexual things are not the norm.

TLDR: CoC and TiTS are consistent in their tone and sexualization. They are porn games, and their worlds were built porn forward.
CoC2 starts dry and then rams in the demon dicks, then afterwards pretends they were always there. It's not consistent and it's hard to know what is normal, what is corrupted, and where the hell we're going with it.
I'm also all up for some polyamory, but given there's no consistency between characters, it's hard to know what I'm investing in when it comes to their content. As all these characters are really their own separate bubbles of content, it's jarring to go from a scene with someone who was explicitly a monogamous character, to one where they're open to all comers. That doesn't feel like open relationships, that feels like cheating.

 

[MoneyMan181]

See, I don't get this. To me, it seems like you're defaulting anyone who doesn't explicitly say otherwise to instantly monogamous and being disappointed when they aren't.

Atugia isn't really super into you. She's not your girlfriend, as far as I know she never says she loves you, you and her don't really establish as of yet any deeper connection than having sex and being friendly with each other...and everyone else in your party meets those same qualifications.

Azzy's entire introduction establishes that she's part of a hive, and she feels cut off when she's not around large amounts of people. The whole reason she latches onto you in the first place is because she's desperate for any kind of companionship since she can't be near everyone in her hive.

Imo, it's easier and makes more sense in the setting that''s been established to assume everyone is down for casual sex with different partners as the default and not the other way around. The people who aren't generally explicitly say so, like Brienne and Kiyoko.

Why would you not assume people are monogamous? That is the norm.

Atugia does say she loves you. It's during sex, but she still says it. It's in her fishnets scene, just scroll down to the bottom. It doesn't matter that she's not explicitly your girlfriend, the writer lets you kiss her and be all sappy with her, including dancing with her twice in the festivus event. But yeah sure, totally not super into the PC when she gives her virginity to you on top of all that.

For azzy, I have no idea what feeling cut off when you're not around a lot of people has to do with being polyamorous. Companionship makes sense sure, but the line of reasoning for polyamory ain't great.

People are into literally everything. The whole point of a fetish game is to cater to the few, not the majority. If this game solely catered to what most people were into, it'd be a very different game.

You say that yet the farthest this game goes is horse cocks and NTR. Seriously, the fetishes in this game are extremely fucking tame, dude. To the point where if you took away the dicks on the chicks, I would question how on earth this is a fetish game. What is the "few" that this game is catering to? Regardless, it seems like catering to the majority is what they should do considering Kiyoko and Brienne are the most popular characters in the game.