Damnit, saw shark girl on the upcoming content list and instantly had my hopes ruined. Why Futa shark girl CoC2? Why ruin my favorite morph type.
Far to many damn dick girls.
Far to many damn dick girls.
This is probably because vampires have basically always been a weird sex thing, whereas (as far as I know) onis have just kinda been monsters. I don't think vampires are portrayed as cultured so much as they're portrayed as... feigning being cultured. It's kind of their whole thing. They use the disguise of a well mannered high class noble to suck blood out of some blonde woman, or out of some kid in multiple weirdly pedophilic scenes (I hate you Anne Rice, you weird pedophile). Idk man, vampires and vampire fiction is fucking weird. Sorry for going off the rails at the end there, I just really hate Anne Rice.they are "literal murdering cannibal demons", who also happened to be portrayed as very cultured.
The thing about this tho is that he does it in pretty much all of his content. The player is railroaded into acting one way and agreeing with whatever the situation is (or just not having a choice), due to how Tobs writes the MC. But the second someone on the forums says "you know actually the kitsune say all this shit but they're really the outsiders/barbarians hiding behind a veil of culture", Tobs jumps in with something like "finally someone noticed" and off he goes explaining how deep his characters are.Eh...I kinda think he would.
Having read a bunch of his stuff the past day or two on forums, I wouldn't categorize his attitude towards the Kitsune (and by extension, the Japanese) as thinking they are "perfect."
He's repeatedly implied or called them racist, hypocritical, insular, shutoff, etc, and honestly his portrayal of the kitsune kinda start to come off as a outsiders condemnation of the Japanese more than anything else.
Can't really complain about gunboat diplomacy when the fucks are the ones invading from the old country and drinking from people, one where you need an outsider to bring you metal cause your to stupid to get it yourselves and where the outsider decked everyone of you in the face just to talk to komari.
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The shit he writes isn't even complicated or intelligent is the thing. He makes it seem like it is with all this useless flowery language, but in reality it's shallow enough for an average middle school student to grasp. It is incredibly obvious that the Kitsune are the assholes and that Gweyr could have handled the situation better.The thing about this tho is that he does it in pretty much all of his content. The player is railroaded into acting one way and agreeing with whatever the situation is (or just not having a choice), due to how Tobs writes the MC. But the second someone on the forums says "you know actually the kitsune say all this shit but they're really the outsiders/barbarians hiding behind a veil of culture", Tobs jumps in with something like "finally someone noticed" and off he goes explaining how deep his characters are.
So there's a bit of a disconnect. If he knows his kitsune are not as holier-than-thou as he has written them, than why can't the player do something about that (and I'm just talking simple dialogue choices or something, not murderhoboing everyone). If Gweyr was actually wrong for choosing the easiest route for her - killing the cultist youth- and being unremorseful about that, why are our choices to her being a monster or not "No, you did what had to be done." and "Yes, but you did what had to be done so it's okay."
It just really annoys me that he writes this largely one-sided portrayal but outside of the game, strokes his ego to how complicated his work really was/is.
So they're morons as well, lovely... :\
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He will not be. While I think Jstar implied that he is made for femPCs (his focus will be PC pregnancy), he will have content for those that have dicks, regardless of their femininity.I am crossing my fingers that it happens and that it does not have the requirement of being feminine
I wish stuff like this was better signposted, I had no idea this was a thing for Evergreen. Evelyn has some decent dom content but it's not as gradual and has no forced tf.I just found out yesterday evergreen has additional scenes when you keep repeating her stuff (eg give her enough blowjobs and you start to become her cumdump or w.e if goes)
He's at the very least a control freak who can't condone giving the player (or even the reader) any kind of leeway, and i'm not even trying to be mean about it. You can just tell by looking at his how long appearance descriptions alone are:The shit he writes isn't even complicated or intelligent is the thing. He makes it seem like it is with all this useless flowery language, but in reality it's shallow enough for an average middle school student to grasp. It is incredibly obvious that the Kitsune are the assholes and that Gweyr could have handled the situation better.
In a vacuum, this would be fine if the player had agency or the characters in question were written in a compelling and multi-faceted way. But the thing is, TOBS does neither of those things. He doesn't allow the player to feel like they're truly in the game(which is the entire fucking point of the game) and vindicate themselves, yet he also doesn't even give you the opportunity to become invested in these scenarios because all of the characters in question are one-dimensional unapologetic dickheads.
Allow players to actually express their distaste with these situations instead of forcing the PC of our characters to be doormats. If not, actually create a reason to make me give a shit about this conflict in the first place.
Let your kitsune family actually give a shit about you and defend you from these other Kitsune dickheads. Introduce ways to actually raise our daughter so she doesn't become a spiteful cunt for no reason. Let the player say, "I don't give a shit about you viewing me as a barbarian, you're all pathetic outcasts that can't even be accepted in your own nation. You're all failures that have no right to judge anybody else." Allow me to actually comment how fucking psychopathic it is for Gweyr to feel nothing after killing CHILDREN. Make Gweyr actually torn up about what she did to those kids and have her punish herself by not leaving the Rift because she feels that guilty about what she did and not being there for her family.
And this is shit I come up off the top of my head. Yet he does none of this because he's so hyper focused on needlessly ginormous word counts and telling his own story for HIMSELF. I legit have no idea how Kitsune content is allowed in the game because it feels like it doesn't even remotely belong in it.
It's a shame too, because Kiyoko in the amulet was actually a strong start and could have developed into the world in a much more seamless and unobtrusive way. Kiyoko herself was even a missed opportunity. She could be a lot more emotional and mellow due to yknow, being stuck inside an alternate dimension for an astronomically long time from her view. Let the player help her through the trauma of that and allow her to be happy again, even if it's just platonic for female PCs. Let me form an actual bond with my wife that's birthed countless amounts of my children.
But no, let's write about how Kitsune culture is just too galaxy brained for the PC and will never truly be able to connect with their family. People love that, right?
God I really just can't hold back my dislike for TOBS holy shit. Honestly half-tempted to rewrite all of his garbage that's in the game and throw it up somewhere.
That's why you just export Kinu and put her into something lolNo no, our dauteru will side with them and probably her mum' will too so that'll be the ultimatum for Tobs to us.
Cause power fantasy! Tobs wants your character to eat dick until you eventually prove yourself that your no longer some barabarian but a champion of the kitsune people. I get the reasoning how he's writing it but that leaves literally zero choice on the player. I just wanna back hand Kinu and tell her to stop acting like some artificial nice bitch to please everyone but can I do that? uh huh huh! None of the sas!......Yes Tobs......Kinu is the greatest thing ever conceived and you WILL worship the ground she walks on.....as well as watch your perfect daughter get fucked by a racist asshole! Have a nice day!The thing about this tho is that he does it in pretty much all of his content. The player is railroaded into acting one way and agreeing with whatever the situation is (or just not having a choice), due to how Tobs writes the MC. But the second someone on the forums says "you know actually the kitsune say all this shit but they're really the outsiders/barbarians hiding behind a veil of culture", Tobs jumps in with something like "finally someone noticed" and off he goes explaining how deep his characters are.
So there's a bit of a disconnect. If he knows his kitsune are not as holier-than-thou as he has written them, than why can't the player do something about that (and I'm just talking simple dialogue choices or something, not murderhoboing everyone). If Gweyr was actually wrong for choosing the easiest route for her - killing the cultist youth- and being unremorseful about that, why are our choices to her being a monster or not "No, you did what had to be done." and "Yes, but you did what had to be done so it's okay."
It just really annoys me that he writes this largely one-sided portrayal but outside of the game, strokes his ego to how complicated his work really was/is.
You and me both. I basically feel the same way as you. Tobs thinks you can't make your point across without decking someone in the snobs or putting them into the ground......Whatever happened to charisma/intelligent checks where you can legit play a game or VN using nothing your charisma and intelligence?The shit he writes isn't even complicated or intelligent is the thing. He makes it seem like it is with all this useless flowery language, but in reality it's shallow enough for an average middle school student to grasp. It is incredibly obvious that the Kitsune are the assholes and that Gweyr could have handled the situation better.
In a vacuum, this would be fine if the player had agency or the characters in question were written in a compelling and multi-faceted way. But the thing is, TOBS does neither of those things. He doesn't allow the player to feel like they're truly in the game(which is the entire fucking point of the game) and vindicate themselves, yet he also doesn't even give you the opportunity to become invested in these scenarios because all of the characters in question are one-dimensional unapologetic dickheads.
Allow players to actually express their distaste with these situations instead of forcing the PC of our characters to be doormats. If not, actually create a reason to make me give a shit about this conflict in the first place.
Let your kitsune family actually give a shit about you and defend you from these other Kitsune dickheads. Introduce ways to actually raise our daughter so she doesn't become a spiteful cunt for no reason. Let the player say, "I don't give a shit about you viewing me as a barbarian, you're all pathetic outcasts that can't even be accepted in your own nation. You're all failures that have no right to judge anybody else." Allow me to actually comment how fucking psychopathic it is for Gweyr to feel nothing after killing CHILDREN. Make Gweyr actually torn up about what she did to those kids and have her punish herself by not leaving the Rift because she feels that guilty about what she did and not being there for her family.
And this is shit I come up off the top of my head. Yet he does none of this because he's so hyper focused on needlessly ginormous word counts and telling his own story for HIMSELF. I legit have no idea how Kitsune content is allowed in the game because it feels like it doesn't even remotely belong in it.
It's a shame too, because Kiyoko in the amulet was actually a strong start and could have developed into the world in a much more seamless and unobtrusive way. Kiyoko herself was even a missed opportunity. She could be a lot more emotional and mellow due to yknow, being stuck inside an alternate dimension for an astronomically long time from her view. Let the player help her through the trauma of that and allow her to be happy again, even if it's just platonic for female PCs. Let me form an actual bond with my wife that's birthed countless amounts of my children.
But no, let's write about how Kitsune culture is just too galaxy brained for the PC and will never truly be able to connect with their family. People love that, right?
God I really just can't hold back my dislike for TOBS holy shit. Honestly half-tempted to rewrite all of his garbage that's in the game and throw it up somewhere.
The shit he writes isn't even complicated or intelligent is the thing. He makes it seem like it is with all this useless flowery language, but in reality it's shallow enough for an average middle school student to grasp. It is incredibly obvious that the Kitsune are the assholes and that Gweyr could have handled the situation better.
In a vacuum, this would be fine if the player had agency or the characters in question were written in a compelling and multi-faceted way. But the thing is, TOBS does neither of those things. He doesn't allow the player to feel like they're truly in the game(which is the entire fucking point of the game) and vindicate themselves, yet he also doesn't even give you the opportunity to become invested in these scenarios because all of the characters in question are one-dimensional unapologetic dickheads.
Allow players to actually express their distaste with these situations instead of forcing the PC of our characters to be doormats. If not, actually create a reason to make me give a shit about this conflict in the first place.
Let your kitsune family actually give a shit about you and defend you from these other Kitsune dickheads. Introduce ways to actually raise our daughter so she doesn't become a spiteful cunt for no reason. Let the player say, "I don't give a shit about you viewing me as a barbarian, you're all pathetic outcasts that can't even be accepted in your own nation. You're all failures that have no right to judge anybody else." Allow me to actually comment how fucking psychopathic it is for Gweyr to feel nothing after killing CHILDREN. Make Gweyr actually torn up about what she did to those kids and have her punish herself by not leaving the Rift because she feels that guilty about what she did and not being there for her family.
And this is shit I come up off the top of my head. Yet he does none of this because he's so hyper focused on needlessly ginormous word counts and telling his own story for HIMSELF. I legit have no idea how Kitsune content is allowed in the game because it feels like it doesn't even remotely belong in it.
It's a shame too, because Kiyoko in the amulet was actually a strong start and could have developed into the world in a much more seamless and unobtrusive way. Kiyoko herself was even a missed opportunity. She could be a lot more emotional and mellow due to yknow, being stuck inside an alternate dimension for an astronomically long time from her view. Let the player help her through the trauma of that and allow her to be happy again, even if it's just platonic for female PCs. Let me form an actual bond with my wife that's birthed countless amounts of my children.
But no, let's write about how Kitsune culture is just too galaxy brained for the PC and will never truly be able to connect with their family. People love that, right?
God I really just can't hold back my dislike for TOBS holy shit. Honestly half-tempted to rewrite all of his garbage that's in the game and throw it up somewhere.
I 100% agree with everything you're saying, and you've got some good ideas there. But I want to focus on this right here. I actively avoided all Kitsune content before even knowing how bad it got because of how out of place it felt. They're just kind of... there. Like it legitimately feels like they're a different game grafted onto CoC2. And it's staggering because there's so many Kitsune. Like there's only one named goblin, and she isn't even sexable. They outnumber everyone but dog-morphs and bull/cow-morphs, but they're all localized in one area. At least in Khor'minos there's a variety of races so it isn't "Oh, another bullguy/gal." And even with them, they all look unique in some way. The Kitsune are just so samey. Guess that's what makes them cultured thoughI legit have no idea how Kitsune content is allowed in the game because it feels like it doesn't even remotely belong in it.
I couldn't care less about incest content with Kinu if everything else was worth itI have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
About equally? 50/50 since most people can't stand his writing, especially the kitsune content past the astral realm arc, and the fact you can't knock up your daughter even though he's written incest content before. Really though, according to me and alot of other people, it's written that way on purpose as to better spite people to fuel whatever he gets off from watching people complain. I understand most people in real life don't have a interest in having sex with their family but in a porn game? Incest is pretty much up there in popularity with futa and other similar tier stuff so for it to not be in this porn game is strange, considering it caters to a semi decent amount of fetishes.I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
They have their perfect excuse which they call:About equally? 50/50 since most people can't stand his writing, especially the kitsune content past the astral realm arc, and the fact you can't knock up your daughter even though he's written incest content before. Really though, according to me and alot of other people, it's written that way on purpose as to better spite people to fuel whatever he gets off from watching people complain. I understand most people in real life don't have a interest in having sex with their family but in a porn game? Incest is pretty much up there in popularity with futa and other similar tier stuff so for it to not be in this porn game is strange, considering it caters to a semi decent amount of fetishes.
While I have issues with Kinu its not due to that. Its rather how awful her character becomes after she leaves the amulet. Most of the kitsu content is awful in their hideout. Also that I get dragged into weird voyeur scenes whenever I go to the kitsu den if she's out of the amulet.I have to ask a rather weird question, but how much of hate towards Tobs is caused by serious issues with his writing for a type of game he writes for and how much of it is caused by a fact that you cannot bang your own daughter and people are mad about it?
Ah yes, gotta love the Takahiro content nobody asked for, right?Also that I get dragged into weird voyeur scenes whenever I go to the kitsu den if she's out of the amulet.
Pretty sure if they could get around that If they really wanted to but the dev's love their money more than writing quality content unless it involves some sort of NTR or adding more numbers to the dick girl army lol Still waiting on a good bust for kass instead of that horrendous, ugly fuck off dragon, demonette like thing with a horse cock >_>.......and you expect me to romance.....that thing? Maybe If her bust was similar to the steam banner, I might consider dooming the world for that lolThey have their perfect excuse which they call:
"Muh' Patreon rules, no incest."