Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.28] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Peasantry]

All I want is more women to impregnate and some kind of over arching system that let's my harem interact a little bit. If they shit the bed with Brienne's family non existent foursome the least they can do is bring together all of my non blood related women together. Also Elthara please stop doing these trips back and forth. Just be available.

Elthara's travel mechanic is something that's neat as a concept and only as a concept. As an actual mechanic its just a mild inconvenience

 

[Lucifel]

Elthara's travel mechanic is something that's neat as a concept and only as a concept. As an actual mechanic its just a mild inconvenience

And when she's in the city all her interactions don't acknowledge any changes. She'll still talk about you claiming her womb despite having multiple children with me at this point. It's so lazy.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Another example imo is Elthara having a special bust when she gets impregnated by Brint. You could be a fullblooded minotaur, doesn't matter, only Brint gets the special extra large baby bump. Because a writer's OC is specialer. Obviously in practicality you can't expect different impregnation busts for the PC based on their predominant race, but then why create disparity by having Brint be the only character in the whole ass game to have a unique version? It makes very little sense, other than to remind you that you'll never be as extra special as the cowboy because you don't have a writer biased in your favor.

This feels like reaching a bit, it sounds more like a workload vs potential return issue. They could write a bunch of checks and flags for player body types to display the alternate image, but it would only come up in the pretty rare situation that a player is a full minotaur and also impregnates Elthara. I suppose you could include any player body types over a certain size but then that's even more checks for what amounts to a pretty meaningless picture change. Less 'everyone must bow to my amazing OC's giant baby' and more 'this picture is neat, I'll add it to this character expansion but cba to make a full set of checks for it'.

 

[zwere]

Less 'everyone must bow to my amazing OC's giant baby' and more 'this picture is neat, I'll add it to this character expansion but cba to make a full set of checks for it'.

Lol. It's not like Wsan found an image of Elthara with a larger baby bump lying around and went "oh neato, let me utilize this real quick", he had Moira make it specifically for Brint. The player character as the impregnator never mattered in this scenario, it's obviously content made for Brint romancers that want to be cuckqueens. The reason I brought it up wasn't to whine about not having several pregnancy busts per each character that vary based on your predominant race, it was just to showcase that the writers care way more about going the extra mile for their OCs, while the PC should feel grateful whenever the game acknowledges some of their features if the writer for the scene felt like it that day.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

We do kind of suffer the same problem here, we all kind of unanimously agree that the game is pretty shit but every once in a blue moon we get someone who likes it and they get kind of attacked for it. Though that's usually due to how they word things

I get the thought but I think it's definitively more on those who are far more asperous about their points. I do think some folks here are more combative than others but generally speaking, there's a good distance between combative and downright cultish.

All I want is more women to impregnate and some kind of over arching system that let's my harem interact a little bit. If they shit the bed with Brienne's family non existent foursome the least they can do is bring together all of my non blood related women together. Also Elthara please stop doing these trips back and forth. Just be available.

I don't recall Elthara's little trips being that much of a problem back when I played but I will admit I wasn't exactly keeping track of her moving around. I do agree with the sentiment they needed more women to impregnate and proper interaction between them though. Back when I stopped playing, I think I managed to get kids from the pub owner's wolf daughter, Elthara, Kiyoko and... I wanna say the harpy?

Think CoC1 had like triple of that in vanilla, granted it might be a bit unfair to compare what was a finished game with something that must've been midway through production or something akin to that.

The reason I brought it up wasn't to whine about not having several pregnancy busts per each character that vary based on your predominant race, it was just to showcase that the writers care way more about going the extra mile for their OCs, while the PC should feel grateful whenever the game acknowledges some of their features if the writer for the scene felt like it that day.

I have a faint suspicion this game will never beat the allegations that the player character for this project is a glorified audience member.

 

[Christ P Bacon]

I do agree with the sentiment they needed more women to impregnate and proper interaction between them though. Back when I stopped playing, I think I managed to get kids from the pub owner's wolf daughter, Elthara, Kiyoko and... I wanna say the harpy?

Think CoC1 had like triple of that in vanilla, granted it might be a bit unfair to compare what was a finished game with something that must've been midway through production or something akin to that.

you try bring that in fen forum and our lord savior savin will bring up document and graph showing why you are wrong and why we need more dickgirl and buttslut stuff

 

[Rocky Pineapple Rhythm]

He had Moira make it specifically for Brint.

He didn't, the art lady made that bust of her own volition. Now it would be cool if the bigger races got that bust as a default, but it is what it is, the bright side is no one's stopping you from swapping the bust out under the hood.

Honestly, kinda makes me wish that the old systems from the other games didn't get streamlined to the point of being vestigial. That or just a bit more ambiguity or fleshing out in terms of content. But, for whatever reason be that red tape, a ravenous fan-base that's never satisfied, or short-sighted ambition we are where we are

 

[Alterism]

I have a faint suspicion this game will never beat the allegations that the player character for this project is a glorified audience member.

To be fair, the game did have a period of like two years where every other submission was either voyeur ""threesomes"" or awkward third wheeling

Spoiler: big examples

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Which to be fair, and in hindsight, should have seen that coming

A period of "fuck it, fuck CoC1, and fuck Corruption, we ball."
At the literal comparative volume where 90% of sex was either meaningless or only meaningful if it involved two NPC's already in love you'd have gotten nearly the same experience by just going to 1d6chan and reading DnD fan fiction.

Nah bruv, dude is a bad writer, his characters have no goals or motivations, they don't grow otside "fuck me hard". Their personalities change depending on the mood he wants to set instead of having the characters' being themselves, just look at Kas for a prime example.

I took a bit to ponder this. I think that's a reasonable weakness to state.
Of the many games I've played, the characters in this game are indeed a bit bland. The only time any kind of "character" is evolved it's usually just nonsensical fluff. And all "NPC agency" means is that they fuck other NPCs. Actually why is it that the only time Ivris got content besides the aforementioned cuck dream it's just to put her in a relationship with Ogrish? Really "fleshing" out the character with that one, Savin.

Any kind of dilemma ends up being resolved in a quest which 9/10 has noticeably no real effect on the growth of the character. "Thanks for doing X, here's some sex scenes." I can see your point and agree. But that's more of an issue with content. I'm speaking from the technical side.

Here, calling Savin a shit writer is ridiculous. Especially doing so on this website where you can reach out into any direction and pluck succulent kusoge straight from el arbol de mierda. The scenes are adequately written, the flow is decent, and there's a decent amount of variety. There's lore in the talks, a character gets a history, and they eventually continue being built upon. Characters are both reactive and proactive in conversations and he's one of the few writers who includes a limited amount of companion reactivity (though obviously everybody is currently behind Gardeford).

At the end of the day, I used to be a big fan of this project too. I'm sure had the substance and content not turned out how it did I still would be. Probably. The point being that the literary skill of the authors isn't the main reason people are down on the game.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

"You could be a fullblooded minotaur, doesn't matter, only Brint gets the special extra large baby bump."
"Obviously in practicality you can't expect different impregnation busts for the PC based on their predominant race"

in case you missed or have forgotten, they made a lore "explanation" that the MC offspring will always take the race of the other parent, due to our soul being "special" from the portal exploding at the intro

now... while i agree this is just a cop out excuse so they dont have to take in account our race when writing our offspring, i also recognize the alternative would take a lot of effort for very little reward, and that the current system allows for interactions with our kids to be more "detailed" and "tailored"... when they fucking bother to write any interaction that is.

 

[Based Department]

the simplest solution would've been to NOT add elthara/brint bust.

 

[Anon_3.141]

the simplest solution would've been to NOT add elthara/brint bust.

Or to make it a multistage preg bust where the belly grows bigger as the pregnancy advances, and just have Brint skip the queue straight to the bigger belly, while the player-induced Elthara pregs go through both preg belly sizes.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I don't the obsession over Elthara, bro we find her being the community cum-dump. The character is constantly wanting to get into 3somes, we can have her sleep with any of your companions (n it treats you like a 3rd wheel/wingman), and more than willing to breed for Brint. She's not "your girl" she's for the squad, clearly written that way too.

in case you missed or have forgotten, they made a lore "explanation" that the MC offspring will always take the race of the other parent, due to our soul being "special" from the portal exploding at the intro

Honestly, I feel like thats just them being lazy or pushing their ideals, why not just use the player's starting cosmetics to reference the children's looks? Clearly the game keeps track of the player's starting race, why not use that to reference the children's looks.

 

[Incompetent Dastard]

I don't recall any threesome stuff happening with Elthara unless you choose it though?

 

[zwere]

He didn't, the art lady made that bust of her own volition. Now it would be cool if the bigger races got that bust as a default, but it is what it is, the bright side is no one's stopping you from swapping the bust out under the hood.

Is there some context I'm missing? The way smithsmithsmith worded it made it sound like a hypothetical, not something that actually happened.

in case you missed or have forgotten, they made a lore "explanation" that the MC offspring will always take the race of the other parent, due to our soul being "special" from the portal exploding at the intro

I did forget that was a thing.

I don't the obsession over Elthara, bro we find her being the community cum-dump.

My point wasn't to complain about Elthara specifically, it was just an example that came to mind about the MC characteristics being irrelevant. I completely forgot there was a "lore" reason for it.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I don't recall any threesome stuff happening with Elthara unless you choose it though?

Yeah, but she's explicitly down for it, enthused about it even. Her whole architype is the repressed freaky office lady - She wants to do that freaky shiii but wants to keep up appearances.

My point wasn't to complain about Elthara specifically, it was just an example that came to mind about the MC characteristics being irrelevant. I completely forgot there was a "lore" reason for it.

Oh you're not the only one that was talking about her but I get what u mean. I think the lore reason was sloppy.

 

[MoneyMan181]

Yeah, but she's explicitly down for it, enthused about it even. Her whole architype is the repressed freaky office lady - She wants to do that freaky shiii but wants to keep up appearances.

...So what? Just because she enjoys it when YOU bring up wanting a threesome, that makes her "for the squad"? That makes literally 0 sense. She never brings up the topic of a threesome on her own. You are shaming a character for enjoying something that YOU have to initiate. Like... what?

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Is there some context I'm missing? The way smithsmithsmith worded it made it sound like a hypothetical, not something that actually happened.

I'm not sure of the origin of the image, this is partly why I'm hesitant to attribute it to spite rather than literally anything else.

 

[Yeppers34]

I'm not sure of the origin of the image, this is partly why I'm hesitant to attribute it to spite rather than literally anything else.

They're actually right about the different pregnancy bust the first one is if the player gets her pregnant and the second was is if brint does it. The second one is noticeably bigger and she looks more "fuck drunk"

 

[zwere]

I'm not sure of the origin of the image, this is partly why I'm hesitant to attribute it to spite rather than literally anything else.

Not spite, favoritism. I don't think Wsan has written anything out of spite, at least from what I've seen. Tobs is the resident spite lord.

 

[Love120]

Thanks for reminding me that another bitch is competing with you about having sex with Brint. While I won't deny that the threesome scenes with Brint are kind of good, they still leave a bad taste in my mouth. And as if that wasn't worse, she also has scenes with Quint.At least Quint, if I remember correctly, tells you that your ass is better. (I'd check my saves to confirm but I'd rather stay in ignorance in case I'm wrong xd)