Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.28] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Sparks127]

Pretty sure helspawn mentions she made a pit stop for some cock when the two where out on some errands or something, which is how she meets her boyfriend. Could be remembering it wrong, it's been a while.
At least there was in game recognition that what Helia was doing was wrong, and you could use it as a lesson to you child, telling her to not be a slut like her mother. CoC2 would never.

She stopped to fight a group of baddies off while helspawn hid, that's when she met her spooder bf.

 

[Peasantry]

What was the most enjoyable thing about her for you? She's another ruff-talking slut in a sea of ruff-talking sluts, barely any difference between the lot them except backstory which barely impacts they're personality.

'Ruff-talking slut' is fine if they're not another carbon-copy futa-dom, and this one differentiates herself because she tests you once, and the test doesn't involve any tricks, combat, or RNG, it's just 'pick one obvious dialogue choice' and you're done. After that, she's friendly and fuckable. Her being rough around the edges has the perfectly reasonable explanation of her being an orc skald.

For a nice and recent contrast, the Black Knight is a futa who you have to beat in combat to earn the right to sub to.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

It's why I dislike people pretending like CoC1 was the infalliable product that could do no wrong, it had some shit in it

To be fair, people usually think of the modded CoC1 too. Modding could help CoC2 out but it'd go against the salt mine business, the NPC power fantasy business and possibly the schlong competing futa business so yeah, that's what y'all are stuck with.

 

[Alterism]

I'mma be one hundred percent honest when I say... it's comments like these that makes me question the use of the free time of the human race to the point where I wanna go to Zamasu and say "Yeah, we're ready to go. Do your thing."

Wall of text crits for over 9000!

It'll be alright~
But, did those 6ish minutes really effect an existential crisis?
Though that's partly the reason I use spoiler blocks on longer posts. Size can be intimidating.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Size can be intimidating.

That's what she said.

 

[Skandranon]

When will she come?
If anyone is in the know?

Well, the wolf cave is in the coding queue and has been for a while, I would expect it soonish.

Though there's a couple of things about the new content that turns me off slightly.

 

[Quintilus]

Black Knight

Who?

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I think some of y'all are getting it twisted, no one said Coc1 was perfect, we're saying its better than Coc2 in many ways; from player accountability to interactivity. The bullshit thats mentioned are writers getting stuck up their own ass which looking at it now was a sign of what was to come.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

'Ruff-talking slut' is fine if they're not another carbon-copy futa-dom, and this one differentiates herself because she tests you once, and the test doesn't involve any tricks, combat, or RNG, it's just 'pick one obvious dialogue choice' and you're done. After that, she's friendly and fuckable. Her being rough around the edges has the perfectly reasonable explanation of her being an orc skald.

For a nice and recent contrast, the Black Knight is a futa who you have to beat in combat to earn the right to sub to.

Thats like getting served shit, ordering something new but getting something served burnt. Its a bit better but its still crap.
Rather than her time as a travelling skald showing through her interactions n world view, she's just another "ruff girl" with vague lore that can get switched out with something else. She's just another ORC, no nuance or substance.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Who?

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[BrigadeD]

Am I the only one who finds the fact that bosses and some enemies can heal their entire health bar in one cycle incredibly crazy for the combat? Healing seems to be getting outta hand.

Many of the 1v1 bosses really hammer in the play style of one round kill or stall and/or die.
Like by no means am a novice at rpg mechanics, but I really shouldn't have to min max just to see the fruit of a choice I made.

The latter half of this game is really starting to show cracks of the games balance. And I'm not even in it for the combat.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

The latter half of this game is really starting to show cracks of the games balance. And I'm not even in it for the combat.

Whaaat??? A DnD copied "inspired" system breaking at late game? who could possibly predicted that!

 

[BrigadeD]

Whaaat??? A DnD copied "inspired" system breaking at late game? who could possibly predicted that!

All I know is that I just want to pick some of the more interesting options in the game, and if dnd required me to min max every encounter that I liked I wouldn't play it. Not saying it's balanced but at least the broken part of dnd is in your favor

 

[SirJahar]

Trust me, as a game master, I prefer things being broken in the Player's favor, too. It means I can go nuts on my side, and still expect a good scene that everyone has fun with.
CoC2's combat is just a slug fest with little passion or creativity on the player's part.

 

[FurrBat]

Am I the only one who finds the fact that bosses and some enemies can heal their entire health bar in one cycle incredibly crazy for the combat? Healing seems to be getting outta hand.

Oh I feel u, tried Coloseum and theres one or two enemy teams there that have healers that can throw the fucking team heals for either 1 person or themselves for 300-500hp. Made the mistake of running a retarded team composition of me atugia phoenix chick. I was specced for stalling, safe to say the "combat" was like two retarded bricks bashing into each other and we fucking stalemated, either side couldnt kill each other and after 5th fucking time my recharge skill missed i gave up and quit the game. Like the hit chance for some skills feel like im playing fucking xcom.

 

[Peasantry]

Thats like getting served shit, ordering something new but getting something served burnt. Its a bit better but its still crap.
Rather than her time as a travelling skald showing through her interactions n world view, she's just another "ruff girl" with vague lore that can get switched out with something else. She's just another ORC, no nuance or substance.

Ah, my bad for taking that as a question in good faith. If you were looking for an excuse to whine, did you really need to take the time to involve me?

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Ah, my bad for taking that as a question in good faith. If you were looking for an excuse to whine, did you really need to take the time to involve me?

Welcome to the state of CoC2 ‘discourse.’
There’s several hundred more pages of non-sequiturs and strawmans over yonder, if you feel like backreading.

I actually kinda like Ylvid, and it’s telling about the state of the game when Savin’s the only one among the staff who can push out a good character these days.

 

[Peasantry]

Welcome to the state of CoC2 ‘discourse.’
There’s several hundred more pages of non-sequiturs and strawmans over yonder, if you feel like backreading.

I actually kinda like Ylvid, and it’s telling about the state of the game when Savin’s the only one among the staff who can push out a good character these days.

Yeah, seen enough that I probably should have known better, but oh well

Savin is a classic case of a broken clock being right twice a season day- a lot of the other writers are broken clocks missing both hour and minute hands

 

[Alterism]

Though there's a couple of things about the new content that turns me off slightly.

What, the wolf TFing?

it’s telling about the state of the game when Savin’s the only one among the staff who can push out a good character these days.

Savin's not a bad writer.
Really, I don't think it's as dire as all that. I'm critical a bunch sure. But, the only legitimately half baked and frankly awkwardly bad character released in the last two months was Alante.

Gardeford, Jstar, B, and SKoW haven't been off their game for awhile. Most of my early in game complaints (except obviously the big one where corruption doesn't honking matter) haven't been poked in awhile.

Am I the only one who finds the fact that bosses and some enemies can heal their entire health bar in one cycle incredibly crazy for the combat? Healing seems to be getting outta hand.

Many of the 1v1 bosses really hammer in the play style of one round kill or stall and/or die.
Like by no means am a novice at rpg mechanics, but I really shouldn't have to min max just to see the fruit of a choice I made.

The latter half of this game is really starting to show cracks of the games balance. And I'm not even in it for the combat.

I'm a bit torn. On one hand it helps fights last a bit longer without getting alpha struck into nonexistence. Because everything is still dying in 2 turns that's not 1 arena boss.

But on the other hand, they clearly must see the issue with the 2 power, 1 encounter, 1 at-will (probably a stance), 1 ultimate approach, given enemy movesets since accessing the Windy Peaks look like this now;

I've got a lot to say on the topic of the games combat, balance, and character building...
But, hell who even cares. It is what it is.

 

[thecatcameback]

Would it be better to have Willpower or Presence as your highest tagged skill? Seems like the skills are drifting more towards magic now so I was thinking of just rerolling. I was thinking of rolling a Wyld Elf for once. Do Wyld Elves/Black-White Mages get any cool scenes?

Also, does anyone remember what Cassia's gladiator outfit boosts? Was it raising strength and agility to presence levels? It was basically a way for Charmers to be able to become fighters, right?