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NODOGAN

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So I decided to steel my resolve and dive into the word diarrhea that is anything Tobs touches and talked to the cat-paladin in Cait's whore temple...gotta admit some of the stuff he said was more than just pretentious word salad, in particularl these two:
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I gotta say, that's an angle I'd be more than willing to explore, I think the "small hero in big catastrophe" could work, it takes a huge conflict and boils it down to a personal level allowing for more emotional narratives , IMO this is the "no power fantasy" Savin speaks of but done right (kind of like the Mandalorian in a sense, you're just some guy surviving in the shadows of a huge conflict, yet your struggles feel so real and relatable you can't help but get involved.)

MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THEM TAKING THIS ANGLE THO is how it flip-flops our character's narrative, we're like the Schrodinger Hero being both the most important and directly involved mortal with this threat and an above-average nobody who's just fumbling around and working with way bigger heroes left and right, if we were presented as a nobody from the get-go/a scout from these so-called great armies then that sort of "no power fantasy/smal soldier in big war" narrative style COULD HAVE WORKED, but oh well.
 
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Quintilus

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Porca miseria, even with that small text sample its obviously TOBS-ed. Im missing the point of first sentence in the end of a second one. How he consistently manages to pulls it up is beyond me.
Tobs is some kind of failed psychological weapon project that managed to crawl from secret government underground facility straight up to the world of porn games, Im telling ya!!!!111111111111
 

NODOGAN

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Porca miseria, even with that small text sample its obviously TOBS-ed. Im missing the point of first sentence in the end of a second one. How he consistently manages to pulls it up is beyond me.
Tobs is some kind of failed psychological weapon project that managed to crawl from secret government underground facility straight up to the world of porn games, Im telling ya!!!!111111111111
I never hid it was TOBS' writting lol, just saying the IDEA of a "small hero doing their part in a world-changing event" could work/be a FUN spin on the otherwise almost nagging-sounding "No PoWeR fAnTaSy" dogma we've heard over and over and over.

BTW what would had been Tobs' original purpose as a failed psychological weapon? now I'm curious about what a "Good" Tobs could had been lol.
 
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So I decided to steel my resolve and dive into the word diarrhea that is anything Tobs touches and talked to the cat-paladin in Cait's whore temple...gotta admit some of the stuff he said was more than just pretentious word salad, in particularl these two:
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Okay who the fuck wants to play a porn game where it takes you several reads to actually understand wtf the character is talking about? It doesn't even have to be related to porn - I would be confused by this even when playing games that require high brain usage. This makes me wonder if I am dumb or not. If I give myself the benefit, then I can say that this is not easy nor smooth to read. Any kind of character for whom it would be appropriate to speak like this would be on my "don't talk to them" list. I am going to attempt to simply this text.

"And let's not forget that we're in this together. It will take the hosts months to get here, but we are able to act on the situation here and now. By the time our backup arrives, it will be too late for too many people. Are people saved by our actions be insignificant compared to the entire populace of the region? Those you save certainly won't think so."

"Even thought I am sure there are forces that will dwarf us, it doesn't make us irrelevant or unneeded. If we act fast, we can get to the smaller details that will be missed in the scuffle."
I don't think it's great - I don't fully know the context of this scene nor the characters, but I hope it's at least easier and smoother to read and doesn't distract you from the actual story by making you decipher every sentence.
 

NODOGAN

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Okay who the fuck wants to play a porn game where it takes you several reads to actually understand wtf the character is talking about? It doesn't even have to be related to porn - I would be confused by this even when playing games that require high brain usage. This makes me wonder if I am dumb or not. If I give myself the benefit, then I can say that this is not easy nor smooth to read. Any kind of character for whom it would be appropriate to speak like this would be on my "don't talk to them" list. I am going to attempt to simply this text.



I don't think it's great - I don't fully know the context of this scene nor the characters, but I hope it's at least easier and smoother to read and doesn't distract you from the actual story by making you decipher every sentence.
I honestly really like your take on it, not only because it's EASIER to understand (you're not alone on that sentiment) but also because it feels more PERSONAL, like the character speaking to you is really trying to appeal to you as a reader.

Tobs just happens to be too pretentious as a writter and thinks that longer paragraphs=better (so expect ANY content coming from him to force you to SCROLL to read in this game, and scroll alot, it's really funny how almost EVERYTHING he writes makes that scroll bar pop up, is certainly popping up more often than my boner I can tell ya that!)
 

Quintilus

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All that south american silver did eventually render silver basically worthless in Europe for a bit though
There are multiple reasons for this. According to various sources its a stream of new goods from a new world, (one of the many) consequences of black death, overall urbanization, etc.
I mean, sure precious metals and other things from the new world was a big factor, but not overwhelmingly huge to outshine other factors.
 

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"And let's not forget that we're in this together. It will take the hosts months to get here, but we are able to act on the situation here and now. By the time our backup arrives, it will be too late for too many people. Are people saved by our actions be insignificant compared to the entire populace of the region? Those you save certainly won't think so."

"Even thought I am sure there are forces that will dwarf us, it doesn't make us irrelevant or unneeded. If we act fast, we can get to the smaller details that will be missed in the scuffle."
We in writing competition now? Oke...

"Do not forget that we all in this together."
She turned away from you and looked into the distance.
"It will take the hosts months to get here. And by the time 'cavalry' arrives"- her face turned sour -"it will be far too late for too many people."
Her face slowly turns to weary expression. She just stand there for a several moments, before asking everybody and nobody at the same time.
"Are people saved by our actions be insignificant compared to the entire populace of the region?"
You open your mouth and close it. You not sure what to say. Or rather what answer is correct.

She looked back at you, filled with a calm determination.
"I am sure there are forces that will dwarf us, but it doesn't make us irrelevant or unneeded. If we act fast, we can get to the smaller details that will be missed in the scuffle."
 

muschi26

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That..is probably one of the lowest effort excuses I’ve ever heard. I like how writers for CoC will talk about porn game logic and then go and say stuff like this, how embarrassing.
Also like, since when is pregnancy such a debilitating condition? Whoever you get pregnant between Miko or Mai can’t take over Komari’s role as head priestess anymore (even though Komari herself never had any issues having kids while being a priestess); Kohaku won’t get pregnancy content, even though she presumably has suppliers (she doesn’t run around collecting all her wares now, does she?) and could very realistically continue to maintain a store.

Not Tobs, but even Elthara mentions how she’s going to hand off all of her political power to her subordinates’ and have them run the Winter City for her once she gives birth.
 
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That..is probably one of the lowest effort excuses I’ve ever heard. I like how writers for CoC will talk about porn game logic and then go and say stuff like this, how embarrassing.
I found that info on a fan discord server, so take it with a grain of salt. (Should've stated this in my first post. My apologizes)
In all honestly I hope it's not true because she is one of my favorite characters, she deserves more content.
 
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Lucky_I

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Also like, since when is pregnancy such a debilitating condition? Whoever you get pregnant between Miko or Mai can’t take over Komari’s role as head priestess anymore (even though Komari herself never had any issues having kids while being a priestess); Kohaku won’t get pregnancy content, even though she presumably has suppliers (she doesn’t run around collecting all her wares now, does she?) and could very realistically continue to maintain a store.

Not Tobs, but even Elthara mentions how she’s going to hand off all of her political power to her subordinates’ and have them run the Winter City for her once she gives birth.
You fail to mention the most obvious example of that you can not only bring but even be a pregnant woman and fight no problem.
 

Skandranon

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I found that info on a fan discord server, so take it with a grain of salt. (Should've stated this in my first post. My apologizes)
In all honestly I hope it's not true because she is one of my favorite characters, she deserves more content.
If its post I saw, he was joking.

Kohaku preg is a running joke on there. Comes up all the time.
 

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Kohaku can only get pregnant through her ears, and that is too weird.
 
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