Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[mistress.ayin]

unless i'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say, which is very likely given what is written, just don't engage in content you don't like then? YOU CHOOSE THE SCENES THAT YOU SEE.

I said that its not my problem, and i don't have any problem with it, i said its the problem of many players, not mine ! They think its so much and they think is so deprecate ! Its not my problem, i can do any thing to this game, i mod this game by my own wishes
Edited: some people don't like these characters (deprecate) when play the game, and in my opinion it doesn't hurt to any one, the developer team adds a filter button, and its not a hard work only one "if" then one "else".

 

[Bloep]

nah some of us gay people mod the game to add the gay sex and then release that fix on loverslab or here. Tho for me I usually add a furry mod on top of that.

Fair, but you take matters into your own hands instead of just sperging out over some perceived slight against you committed by a cabal of indie porn devs.

 

[mistress.ayin]

"B" vs Wsan​

now, we are compare wsan with "B" (i don't know she or he), but last scene Ivaze by "B", against the wsan works ! in my opinion Ivaze, she is not my type (i prefer be in charge just like ivaze ), and my champion has not enough corrupted to see her scene in the game, so i used debug menu, to see her menu and scenes !! comparing Ivaze with Wsan characters, Ivaze scene is the one real only Femdom fetish in the game and i gives the credit to "B", she or he (B) , knows the angle of women femdom, and compare to Wsan (my scythe of soul, the chainsaw ) characters like Kalysea or Octavia (a dry characters like old alpha dog mans in the 1910 year), Wsan characters has the Maledom, in one abuser way (only anal or oral), and only Wsan enjoy this relationship !! he (Wsan) created characters like a Male Alpha dog, and gives that male some boobs (when i say the guy with the boobs, its mean Wsan characters), and i don't know why wsan insist to these characters at the women frame (if he created these character at the male form, this was better), and Wsan do not know even about the trans (at the best condition a transdom in the sex has 50% switch theme), know look at the "B" writing about the Femdom theme, and compare it with Wsan works !! when Wsan works in a femdom theme (and don't say that is the futadom, so its !! tell me why the futa's are feminine, so they are in category of females, then its a femdom theme), "B" with this scenes teach's Wsan lesson about that theme, Wsan even with an AI help can not created a scene like this

and now some of Wsan lovers says: these are Futa scene, at the last example, i campare a female dom character of Wsan, the "Arille" with Ivaze, at the Arille scene we have so humiliation, pegging (Wsan anal love, a male can be a sub person without receive pegging, dear Wsan) and ..., because the Wsan mind only see's the femdom like Male alpha dog, even the Arille is like a Male one !! Wsan characters like himself perspective, a male one, he seen a dominancy as a male one by humiliation others and doing anal sex by force !! in my opinion "B" written this scene to teach him (Wsan) a lesson.

i said that before, i like "B" scenes (even this scene is not my type, i like "B"), savin he is a good writer (of course a dictator one), and i love SKoW scenes in this game, my favorite writer in this game !! but Wsan no (absolutley not), in my opinion if he (Wsan) wants to continue this theme, its better to created his character as a Male person not feminine one !!

 

[claralover]

"B" vs Wsan​

now, we are compare wsan with "B" (i don't know she or he), but last scene Ivaze by "B", against the wsan works ! in my opinion Ivaze, she is not my type (i prefer be in charge just like ivaze ), and my champion has not enough corrupted to see her scene in the game, so i used debug menu, to see her menu and scenes !! comparing Ivaze with Wsan characters, Ivaze scene is the one real only Femdom fetish in the game and i gives the credit to "B", she or he (B) , knows the angle of women femdom, and compare to Wsan (my scythe of soul, the chainsaw ) characters like Kalysea or Octavia (a dry characters like old alpha dog mans in the 1910 year), Wsan characters has the Maledom, in one abuser way (only anal or oral), and only Wsan enjoy this relationship !! he (Wsan) created characters like a Male Alpha dog, and gives that male some boobs (when i say the guy with the boobs, its mean Wsan characters), and i don't know why wsan insist to these characters at the women frame (if he created these character at the male form, this was better), and Wsan do not know even about the trans (at the best condition a transdom in the sex has 50% switch theme), know look at the "B" writing about the Femdom theme, and compare it with Wsan works !! when Wsan works in a femdom theme (and don't say that is the futadom, so its !! tell me why the futa's are feminine, so they are in category of females, then its a femdom theme), "B" with this scenes teach's Wsan lesson about that theme, Wsan even with an AI help can not created a scene like this

and now some of Wsan lovers says: these are Futa scene, at the last example, i campare a female dom character of Wsan, the "Arille" with Ivaze, at the Arille scene we have so humiliation, pegging (Wsan anal love, a male can be a sub person without receive pegging, dear Wsan) and ..., because the Wsan mind only see's the femdom like Male alpha dog, even the Arille is like a Male one !! Wsan characters like himself perspective, a male one, he seen a dominancy as a male one by humiliation others and doing anal sex by force !! in my opinion "B" written this scene to teach him (Wsan) a lesson.

i said that before, i like "B" scenes (even this scene is not my type, i like "B"), savin he is a good writer (of course a dictator one), and i love SKoW scenes in this game, my favorite writer in this game !! but Wsan no (absolutley not), in my opinion if he (Wsan) wants to continue this theme, its better to created his character as a Male person not feminine one !!

I have no idea what you're saying. What translation app are you using, it's not very effective.

 

[mistress.ayin]

I have no idea what you're saying. What translation app are you using, it's not very effective.

really want to ping-pong this, but this is my opinion: Wsan characters instead of feminine (he created them as futa, so there are in female categories) are a Male one !! not female one !! and he must reconsider it about them !! if he create them as a Male one is better too !!
and about you, i like your avatar !! and about my writing, i write fast and im not the english one, if i say my original country (at now, i lives in another country), maybe all of these forum attacks me for that, because they killed over of 43000 people until know !!
sorry about my english, and i don't use any translator because i must to know english at this moment, because i live in other country, and this language in the university help me to find my way out !!!

 

[menatv]

Here I thought that miner foreman was going to be another foe to fight in the undermountain. I kept fighting the miners hoping he would eventually show up.

Had no idea he was just a NPC that was actually in the city outskirts and not someone you would fight. Sigh.

 

[Alterism]

Alright.
Okay.

*snip*

I swear Wsan must have been giving you swirlies in highschool.
I toss tons of shade towards Wsan. But, I think you might very well be his number one fan.

Like the Frost Pup, or the Fountain Goddess, or the caraven elf chick, or the marefolk mother, or the adventurer group

Just to be sure if I'm following this chain right, placeholder means low or unsexable character, right?

Spoiler: squish

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As much as I liked to clown on Bubs, that's still pretty unfortunate.

There are tons of thread swhere both sides will constantly claim the other is getting all the attention and content regardless of numbers.

NTR is a fun one because unless the creator knows what the heck they're doing (which is surprisingly few given the relatively few popular games that can avoid the war) most of the bellyaching will come from the fact that the two fetishes are practically diametrically opposed, as is their general fanbase.
It turns out, it's hard to ride the razors edge when appealing to two different crowds who want nothing to do with each other.

They repeatedly get this disappointed feeling of encountering npcs they have no interest in for they were made for a different section of the playerbase. Then they make a big stink about it, because they don't know how to deal with spaces that just weren't made for them exclusively.

Hmph.
Let me drop the facade and be very real for a minute.

This part speaks a little to me for similar reasons.
This was the reason I pulled out of TiTS. That game used to be for me, and then it wasn't.
I made a big post about it. You can read here: https://f95zone.to/threads/trials-in-tainted-space-v0-9-113-fenoxo.469/post-13325167
However...

CoC2 is not TiTS.

Spoiler: BIG Squish

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TL;DR
Generalizations and sweeping assumptions tend to stick out when points of contention are spelled out in plain English and have been for actual years.

 

[Skandranon]

Just to be sure if I'm following this chain right, placeholder means low or unsexable character, right?

No. The list we were going off of in that conversation in the first place was the sexable characters list numbers I quoted.

Though your confusion is kinda warranted; he used Infrith as an example of a 'placeholder' character, which I took to mean a character with not many scenes or importance; turns out, he didn't actually play Infrith's content and was going by the wiki, and thought she had literally one sex scene and no updates for 5 years. So my examples were characters that, comparable to her actual count and character, had low sex scenes or story importance.

 

[Walk Cycle]

Never to be finished.
Those plans never to be realized.
The only Drider writer gone and buried

As much as I liked to clown on Bubs, that's still pretty unfortunate.

Man every time I see Ihzalti it makes me sad. She's pretty much the proof that broken clocks can be right twice a day.

Also the Drider encounter in the Frostwoods is Tobs work innit? So we still have at least one.

 

[Alterism]

Though your confusion is kinda warranted; he used Infrith as an example of a 'placeholder' character, which I took to mean a character with not many scenes or importance; turns out, he didn't actually play Infrith's content and was going by the wiki, and thought she had literally one sex scene and no updates for 5 years. So my examples were characters that, comparable to her actual count and character, had low sex scenes or story importance.

Ah. Makes sense then. I only briefly skimmed the topics so ended up wearing a bit of my ass on my face then.

So we still have at least one.

To think I'd be pushed this far
Tobs. Please. A crumb of drider

 

[DuckwingQuack]

I swear Wsan must have been giving you swirlies in highschool.
I toss tons of shade towards Wsan. But, I think you might very well be his number one fan.

OK that first one was nice
And care to elaborate on the Wsan shade?
You got me kinda interested.

Hmm. though on the topic of never-to-be-finished characters. I critically hit myself by remembering

Never to be finished.
Those plans never to be realized.
The only Drider writer gone and buried.[/SPOILER]

As much as I liked to clown on Bubs, that's still pretty unfortunate.

Yeah Bubblelord´s depature kinda stinks in that part.
Even though i won´t miss Quintilius. But I am kinda interested what they gonna do with him.
Does he get the Berwyn treatment (my sad little boy) or is some poor writer gonna sacrifice themselves and tries to finish his story and at best also redeem the character.

Honestly Bubblelords depature only worsen my fears for the eventual "completion of" the game.
Will it just end like coc1 were a ton of characters and their stories end up forgotten, never to be resolved?
We can only h(c)ope.

Never here for discussions about corruption, world setting, lore, player agency, or even combat. Only spinning on the one topic and making analysis that everybody secretly only cares about that one topic.

We take a die.
We roll it:

• (1) I HATE Kitsune
  • I HATE TOBS
• (2) Savin sucks!
• (3) Where the HELL is the corruption
• (4) Is the player agency in the room with us?
• (5) MotherFUCK Futadommes
  • and FUCK futa's too
• (6) MC is a chump

And then we spin these conversations on repeat forever and ever and ever.

On and on the cycle continues.

Honestly, thats why I am kinda here. For the slander. Where we went our frustrations about the game with some funny rebutal. Bonus points for funny pictures.

Sadly some of us I feel like, take all of this little to serious.

And sometimes we get stuck on one particular topic to long, especialy futa.
Feels like two weeks off constant futa bashing. Or maybe it only feels like that to me. To lazy to check.

Also when I have to read shit like "heterophobe"(?) or "thats why people vote trump" I kinda cringe not gonna lie.
Or two weeks ago when Nidabutt asked for input on their OC and some of us instead, off offering usefull or valid critism, instead felt so butthurt about Nidabutts OC, they personally attacked them. Yikes.

I realy wish we could all take this with a little bit more humor.
Vent our frustrations with a bit more fun and sarcasm.
Don´t go after creators or commissioners, they are people too, and only live out their favorite fetish in their favorite game.

Except TOBS, because fuck that guy.
We can pay for comsissions, but we can´t pay for his removal from the team, talk about power fantasy.

 

[mistress.ayin]

I swear Wsan must have been giving you swirlies in highschool.
I toss tons of shade towards Wsan. But, I think you might very well be his number one fan.

Finally a right comment, yes i must to admit, i have some hate from him (Wsan), but its not about his stories, he made some changes at the background coding source. And i don't know this is a wsan or not, but it changes only with his characters, so it make some hard works to creating my Mod . And another thing you are a good writer so compare Ivaze (B) vs Arille (Wsan), and tell me which one is better at the femdom content, tell me your opinion. (It doesn't matter the game developers like your comment or not, its important for us, in this forum, not the developers)

 

[Sant3224]

Nah some of us gay people mod the game to add the gay sex and then release that fix on loverslab or here. Tho for me I usually add a furry mod on top of that.

Do you have a link for those?

 

[Sant3224]

So Quintillus will be unfinished? Guess Brint will be the only male companion with more content *sigh*

 

[Knife-wielding crab]

So Quintillus will be unfinished? Guess Brint will be the only male companion with more content *sigh*

There is a community writer that's picked up Quintulus. But they're currently has a bunch of IRL stuff going on so don't know the date.

 

[mistress.ayin]

two weeks ago when Nidabutt asked for input on their OC and some of us instead, off offering usefull or valid critism, instead felt so butthurt about Nidabutts OC, they personally attacked them.

I have no argue with this, some of users forum attack to Nida, but of course i never insult her/him. We have no fight here, only i explain why in this forum comment was not usefull to Nida:

1. Kalysea theme is not the type of most of users in here, so they have no opinion to that.
2. Kalysea character is a feminine but its hard like male, so why they created her as feminine one. (dry character)
3. Most of users want to fuck this Kalysea in the butt, so they have no tolerate. (in my opinion i want to kill her in combat, not sex)
4. I only gave two comment to Nida, tell the wsan stop the cat-mouse background, because of my Mod, they changes some of Wsan characters function code at the background in this 3 month, like a school boy (thats the source my hate to Wsan ), another was to add the farewell button to this kalyaea, some of players don't know this theme, so they choose to help this kalysea, but they can not undo this, when they was found she is a abuser one.
5. At the end of this i say my sorry and excuse from all of users in this forum to Nida, so Nida we sorry if we offended you. (Of course i never insult her/him, but i do not fear to say sorry)
6. I like my Chainsaw (Wsan) was here in this forum, to teach him a lesson (i said this for a joke , so do not take this so serious)

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Being off-topic for a bit.
Holy shit, every time I glance at your pfp - I see a zoidberg.

Hahahah

Nah, it's Sidney, the Radditude Dog. I'm a Weezer fan so I thought it'd be funny to have him as a pfp so it wasn't left as just a letter or something.

Le numbers never lie.

Even though i dont care about how many futas there are in the game i think it speaks VOLUMES that the fanbases problem is with futas and not something else.Is it because futas are just pushed that hard? Idk.Is it because pure fem characters are shit? Idk.But something is at fault.

I'm on the opinion that they are pushed hard, yes. Like I wrote the other day, I kept finding futas on every corner and I don't think that was on me doing something wrong, this game just does that for some reason.

Add to it that Savin's big on that sort of stuff and it's hard to really give it the benefit of the doubt on that. And honestly, even if this game had no futas, it'd still have the other problems.

Right, not like the list of futas have any low content characters. Like the Frost Pup, or the Fountain Goddess, or the caraven elf chick, or the marefolk mother, or the adventurer group or many, many others.

Nope, every futa is completely and totally fleshed out, with multiple meaningful updates!

Y'know I won't dig into this to check because I have better stuff to do with my time but I feel like the number of undevelopped futas is smaller than the undevelopped regular women.

Even on percentuals. I've not played the game in ages but I do feel that'd still hold up.

 

[Sant3224]

There is a community writer that's picked up Quintulus. But they're currently has a bunch of IRL stuff going on so don't know the date.

Btw I loved your writing, Odo's scenes are so refreshing comparing to the actual state of the game.

 

[Knife-wielding crab]

Btw I loved your writing, Odo's scenes are so refreshing comparing to the actual state of the game.

Glad you liked it!

 

[Bloep]

I get a bit confused. Especially with how well you were explaining your position before this;
The last patch does indeed adequately disrupts the "futa only" narrative.
Agnimitra has an expansion in the pipe.

All of your rebuttals were on point save this one. With consideration of how circular this forum is, do you understand how many assumptions have to be made for that to be true? If just one aspect falls flat, they all do.

e.g; I play futa slimes in TITS and my favorite character in TITS is Amber. Boom. Entire theory eviscerated.
[/SPOILER]
TL;DR
Generalizations and sweeping assumptions tend to stick out when points of contention are spelled out in plain English and have been for actual years.

Maybe i should've caveated my post a bit better. I am talking about a specific subset of people who complain about just futa, and get personally offended whenever more of it is added. If, like you yourself, have complaints about shortcomings, writing or just the general direction of the game, then that's totally fair.