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Azriel Satan

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Well i mean yeah sure while there's more normal females in the game compared to futa, it's the quality and the number of scenes they actually get.
For example, the Witch Orgy scene that includes 4 female Minotaur that never appear outside of that event.
Or the Centaur Orgy, which has 4 female Centaur that never appear outside that event.
 
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Alterism

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And another thing you are a good writer so compare Ivaze (B) vs Arille (Wsan), and tell me which one is better at the femdom content, tell me your opinion.
I mean if I'm going to give my personal opinion and compare the two, then yeah I like Ivaze more. But, it's not as if Arille is bad. I think I've talked about her before. But the jist of that was that she has content and then it ends abruptly. The game hints of how the relationship is developing. But, it never does. Nothing happens there. The scenes then just continue in a static order on repeat.

And care to elaborate on the Wsan shade?
You got me kinda interested.
Nothing too deep. Just general gabs at style and contributions. I think I can cover two birds with one stone, here. To both provide an example and segue back into the point.

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Skandranon

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Ha, I expressed similar observations about Wsan some years back, though I still like his writing.

His characters tend to be motivated by sex, and exhibit most of their personality through sex. From way back when Amber was being written.

Brint joins you because you walked past him and he had nothing better to do. Brienne doesn't really have any deeper motivation than tagging along and banging you.

Wsan doesn't take a lot of interest in fleshing his characters out beyond sex scenes. It's partially why Brienne doesn't do a lot for me; her only real personality traits is that she likes you, a lot.

Of course, imo he also writes the best sex scenes on the team, and that's why I'm here, so it evens out for me. But I do think his characters could stand to have more life to them.
 

mistress.ayin

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Of course, imo he also writes the best sex scenes on the team, and that's why I'm here, so it evens out for me. But I do think his characters could stand to have more life to them.
I don't have any argue with you, Wsan is your favorite writer in CoC 2 game, and im not fighting you, you like Wsan, it's your opinion, and i respect that, but i love "SKoW", and after that i think our dictator Savin is better :D (dictator is a joke, don't take that serious :D), after that "B" is my favorite ! i respect your choice you love Wsan (my Scythe of Soul :LOL:, and don't take this alias serious)
 

TalRash4

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Ha, I expressed similar observations about Wsan some years back, though I still like his writing.

His characters tend to be motivated by sex, and exhibit most of their personality through sex. From way back when Amber was being written.

Brint joins you because you walked past him and he had nothing better to do. Brienne doesn't really have any deeper motivation than tagging along and banging you.

Wsan doesn't take a lot of interest in fleshing his characters out beyond sex scenes. It's partially why Brienne doesn't do a lot for me; her only real personality traits is that she likes you, a lot.

Of course, imo he also writes the best sex scenes on the team, and that's why I'm here, so it evens out for me. But I do think his characters could stand to have more life to them.
As far as I understand the situation, main problem with last Wsan content is not that he's overall a bad writter or he's having a sertain type (like I said before, there is no crime in having a type). Main problem is that he just cut PC's (and through this - player's) brain out for justifying his type. Amber and Brint/Brienne ain't bad at all, and mostly because they are fair: give some - have some, you still have your free will not to do something.
 

mistress.ayin

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but I think Savin's probably my favorite writer on the team.
Besides Cait, I like most of what Savin writes.
that's the right choice, Savin is a good writer, and i think he is the best in the CoC2, but i love "SKoW", of course Savin is better, and im not a nutjob about that, (i like SKoW more than Savin, in personally), only thing about Savin is: a dictator one (its not a bad thing, but some time make other peoples angry :D)
 

icecreamman99

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There were attempts with Nottia and the Brihause. Don't get me wrong, I like that content from a pure content perspective. But, generally I find Wsan misses more than hits when it comes to trying to give characters, character.
Most things are front loaded as fuck, with characterization and relationships being only lip service to rush towards sex. This wouldn't be bad but with so many things rushed to sex things are forgotten or neglected and more often then not left poor states where someone talks about something and then nothing or it never happens. This for the most part is nothing new for the games coc, tits, and coc2.
I mean take femdom imp, like you said with that content being left in a good state, besides the lack of TALKING. Most content is just left there even main characters. I don't even like etheryn but still just left there for like over a year saying we will get back to pregnancy and more uncaged stuff with just them soon, but they go "hey if you want more threesome with arona..."

And that's not even talking about most are not having pc talk options about what their relationship with the pc will be and how it will work with others when it's really fitting.
You'd think there would be more talks like that writer from tits did jim (something) but nah, most of time even when it would be fitting to talk about that stuff the player is just pushed into it.
 

mistress.ayin

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Most things are front loaded as fuck, with characterization and relationships being only lip service to rush towards sex.
About that, some of problems belongs to background coding, for example the game coding has so many problem, if they added the dynamic scene for sex or every thing, it would fixed all of problems, but they can not, because they need to remake this game again, coding team has so many problem, for example at the character creation they coded with "switch" order all of that menus, the switch command is a good, but not in here, using switch when you sure you don't want to edit your data is a good choice, you seen everyone asked them to add a new class, or background class, they say we can not, because of that switch use, if they used "if" and "else if" they didn't has that problem, the coding team has many peogrammer, and some of them is not a good one. Another example, you seen orlaith in front at the game, at the background coding in the source code, one of their programmer sign a variables with a "void" order, if you show this to any programmer, that programmer laughs, because the "void" order only uses for functions not the variables, i do not want to pain your brain, but some of problems belongs the coding team, not the writers, writers wants to add that options, but because of the coding team they can not.
 
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DuckwingQuack

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The previously mentioned 'lack of relationship' is more of a Wsan special to begin with.
Maybe there's plans for the future.
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Who knows. Nearly every NPC including the aforementioned Amber is like that. Most of her relationship scene building was by other people. That entire cure questline and having her cured and even developing additional hobbies? Somebody else.
I almost forgot that Wsan wrote Amber and just left her unfinished. Man this is so depressing everytime. Thanks to everyone who finished her character.
Grainne? You just fuck. Evenlyn? You just fuck. Elthara? You just fuck. Marilla? You get the point. The entirety of interactions with every character Wsan has made is generally a crumb of backstory, some general quirk that is only skin deep, and interactions entirely predicated by sex and never beyond that.
I'd say it'd be one thing if this was the orcs. But, the orcs has Rags, Arona, both pregnancy exclusive events, and a bad(good) end.

There were attempts with Nottia and the Brihause. Don't get me wrong, I like that content from a pure content perspective. But, generally I find Wsan misses more than hits when it comes to trying to give characters, character.
Yeah he is realy struggeling in that character department. Still confused/annoyed that if you fuck Brienne/Brint only once, they instantly treat you like you are in a relationship. No question ,nothing.
If Brienne wouldn´t hit all my fetish buttons, she would plummet through my favourite company ranking like a rock.

Nope. He does write my favorite sex scenes, and his fetishes align with mine the most - but I think Savin's probably my favorite writer on the team.
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Tsubuhaza

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Brint joins you because you walked past him and he had nothing better to do. Brienne doesn't really have any deeper motivation than tagging along and banging you.
Still find it funny that the one character I like the most from the party crew is like that. And then you have the opposite with Cait and Ryn who have way more on them yet I most tolerated the earlier back in the day and the latter was busy never being on the team unless obligated.

Would be cool for her to get development but I'd rather she also didn't end up outshining the protagonist too much. I don't think giving her Cait-levels of importance would really make her worse but... this is CoC2.

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I feel my opinion on him as a writer isn't fair to consider. I see Cait as a chore, I don't care about futas and I'm still miffed we can't just punch the literal demon on the face to prevent her from fucking things up further.

That said, there's always the chance he'll somehow come up with a character that I enjoy so I'll refrain from commenting on that bit until further notice.

As for the first spoiler, I disagree. If you're developping an inanimate object the character happens to stumble upon, then you're not really developping the character, just the object.
 

zwere

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the issue isn't how much futa or non-futa content there is in the game in aggregate, it's that the updates are pathetic. It absolutely fucking sucks if you're waiting for new content, only for the bi-monthly patch to add three scenes at most; none of which interest you. Then you have to wait another 2 weeks and pray that there's something in the next patch for you. But even then it's just gonna be a pittance because most patches are measly morsels of content. I'll reiterate this again, the last update that moved the Khor'minos plot forward was all the way back in February. And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for being the only one pointing this factoid out.
 

DoodlesTheBob

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Got to love another braindead pole designed to come out to the same old conclusions... Why would they list futa as a fetish instead of leaving it out OR present other options like... plain old male, plain old female?

Hey guiz, we totally don't just have a thing about railroading out our own assholes with futa dick! It's the audience! It is only an accident we had "Male romance options" and "Futa" but no "Woman romance options!"
 

destroyerofassholes

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the issue isn't how much futa or non-futa content there is in the game in aggregate, it's that the updates are pathetic. It absolutely fucking sucks if you're waiting for new content, only for the bi-monthly patch to add three scenes at most; none of which interest you. Then you have to wait another 2 weeks and pray that there's something in the next patch for you. But even then it's just gonna be a pittance because most patches are measly morsels of content. I'll reiterate this again, the last update that moved the Khor'minos plot forward was all the way back in February. And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for being the only one pointing this factoid out.
I entirely agree, man I love sub futa content but even I hate the game for what it is these past few years. Even Wsan basically admitted that updates were somewhat pitiful right around Brihaus' release. There's just not enough content and most of it is incredibly uninteresting.

CoC is reverting to the TiTS school of every patch adding some random scene to some literal-who in some random corner of the map instead of doing anything, anything at all worthwhile.

It's so ridiculous that the last time we got to move the main story forward with defeating Alyssa, the actual content for a pretty big antagonist was left to an outsider (Fleep). Which essentially means they had no plans for such content until Fleep decided to contribute.

I have no idea where the fuck the money is going or what the fuck the devs are doing with all their time but I remember a thousand pages back we got meaty updates after meaty updates. Khorminos shouldn't have taken as long as it did. Winter City didn't.
 
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Yeppers34

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the issue isn't how much futa or non-futa content there is in the game in aggregate, it's that the updates are pathetic. It absolutely fucking sucks if you're waiting for new content, only for the bi-monthly patch to add three scenes at most; none of which interest you. Then you have to wait another 2 weeks and pray that there's something in the next patch for you. But even then it's just gonna be a pittance because most patches are measly morsels of content. I'll reiterate this again, the last update that moved the Khor'minos plot forward was all the way back in February. And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills for being the only one pointing this factoid out.
Holy shit since February, damn i mean i knew it's been a dogs age since the plot has actually progressed but that fucking long..their next major update should be "hey guys we know it's been literal months since we progressed the story but that's because this update finishes the entire story"
 
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