Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[King_Ogre]

And I whas live when there another purge.
Totally this:

Wait... That comment got memeoryhol'd?

 

[sasach]

Everything is great, but I'm just woundering why there is no futa Brienne content/mod? It seems quite illogical to me that its still haven't been implemented yet. A lazy mod for example: just copy most of the Brint's encounters with changing name/appearence. Well I guess that's done cause otherwise etheryone would just pick futa Brienne intead of regular Brint, but I still want to be able to access all the content in one playthrough cause this route thing from classical eroges that makes you start over again is just silly in that case.

The game's been developing for several years, I suppose I'm not the first one puzzled, so maybe someone can enlighten me about dev's opinion

 

[PainKnight]

I never play this game but when i looking to latest updates i saw this game. I never seen a developer thar try soo hard and create new content soo often. I wish other developers will be act like that and at least update game for once at year. This game developer real chad.

 

[IndOnesia]

The game's been developing for several years, I suppose I'm not the first one puzzled, so maybe someone can enlighten me about dev's opinion

No futa for the cow but some kind floating dick without testicle. i forgot the name of it
operate like some kind of dildo

 

[Daken9]

Everything is great, but I'm just woundering why there is no futa Brienne content/mod? It seems quite illogical to me that its still haven't been implemented yet. A lazy mod for example: just copy most of the Brint's encounters with changing name/appearence. Well I guess that's done cause otherwise etheryone would just pick futa Brienne intead of regular Brint, but I still want to be able to access all the content in one playthrough cause this route thing from classical eroges that makes you start over again is just silly in that case.

On the mod side, probably because everyone and their mothers have a dick in this game, and most everyone likes Brienne the way she is. On the writer side, i'd say because she's meant to be a straight waifu and Wsan's got the self-control not to diverge from the beaten path for shit and giggles.

Which is an accomplishment all by itself, that latter one, considering how most of the other writers operate

 

[King_Ogre]

I never seen a developer thar try soo hard and create new content soo often.

Believe me. He doesn't.

Many of the characters have a lot of potential. The issue is that the writters are on a free for all with no one to direct them forward to an end.

So, on a dick way. They are like a headless chicken.

To the modders. There is a way to contribute with plot or stories?

 

[Kroenen12]

The game's been developing for several years, I suppose I'm not the first one puzzled, so maybe someone can enlighten me about dev's opinion

 

[King_Ogre]

Lol lmao, the team even aknowledges it.

Apart of it The magidicc is a good workaround.

 

[ankhtar]

I mean, it's not like the game is in a good condition. The main character, the one who the universe itself is supposed to bend over a table for in any story, is basically just a poor excuse of a whipping farmboy who gets dunked on by everyone, and I mean everyone. Even the freaking town drunk is going to insult you and your entire family and you don't even have the option to balk back, you just turn around and walk away with your tail(s) between your legs like a good, obedient subby side character.

Actual side characters like Cait (yeah, I went there), who is supposed to be a supporting character at the best of times with an optional story line, should you choose to follow it, is freaking everywhere and has a say in everything, to the point where she may as well be the main character of the game. I'm pretty sure that if the writers would describe in detail that really satisfying dump Brint just took for our reading pleasure, she would be there to praise him about it, and then probably fuck him after while we just stand there and watch with an unattended boner/ladyboner. I'm not even touching the monumental amount of content locked behind her personal quest. You know, the thing that should be optional but you'll probably find yourself doing anyway just because it's shamelessly gating more Kass content.

Kiyoko and Kinu always made such a huge deal out of you helping them out of their prison, only for you to become an ignored background actor whose only purpose in life is to keep her pregnant the moment they step out of the orb. You have no say in anything, not even in the fact that your daughter chose the resident suicidal edgelord as her mate for some god forsaken reason without so much as telling you about it because kitsune lore, despite being not only the chosen champion of her entire race, chosen by her god himself, as well as her literal father.
You would expect to get some respect around there after becoming their superior in the social strata and helping them out on several occasions, right? Nope. You get repeatedly told, in no uncertain terms (sometimes by your own "wife", no less), that even though they "respect" you on the surface for the sake of appearance, behind closed doors everyone still thinks you're a barbaric piece of garbage.

*deep breath*

Characters who have a chance to be given some real potential and content are, instead, given one-off scenes and then thrown under the bus and forgotten. Characters like Vatia, Lusamine, Vivianne, Garret, Rindo, Kohaku, kitsune inventor dude I forgot the name of, Shar, Eryka, Lusina, Leorah, Ivris, basically the entire marefolk/centaur villages... I could go on and on but you get the point.

Everyone and everything has a dick. The game may as well be called Futaning of Champions. I have nothing against futa as a kink, but there is such a thing as too much, in the same way you would get sick of cake if that's all you were forced to eat. Most females have dicks, pretty much every demon has a dick, most centaurs and mares have dicks. It's gotten to the point where it's actually strange to see a female bearing only a vagina and no additional appendages. Where's our variety at?

The game would have some real potential if both the dev and the writers weren't hard-headed buffoons. As it stands, it's a complete joke that has long since destroyed whatever good will and reputation it's prequel might have had at some point. If you're reading this and you were considering supporting the game, don't. Just... don't. You'd be better off burning your money, or using it as toilet paper. It's not worth your hard earned money until they clean up their act and start acting like adults, not children who were just told "no".


I'll just go ahead and copy paste this somewhere so I can re-post it later in case it gets purged yet again. I ain't writing this whole rant from the start a second time.

 

[jfmherokiller]

To the modders. There is a way to contribute with plot or stories?

I cant speak for any modders but it is possible to both replace scenes and add ones own to the game at least in part.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Lol lmao, the team even aknowledges it.
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Apart of it The magidicc is a good workaround.

"Free spirit who does what he likes"

Seems less like a description and more like shade lol, especially in a "professional" environment

 

[Konstantinus]

kitsune inventor dude I forgot the name of

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[Mandoto]

When Daliza asks you to get some workers to clean up the Wayfort, you are presented with two "response" options; ask for her advice, or just tell her you'll handle it. They both lead to the same bit of text where the PC asks for advice.

They aren't even pretending to try anymore.

 

[TheDistur6edGuy]

So, there's this issue where the artwork for Brienne will not show up: my guess, is that it's supposed to be that new artwork for her, and the coding can't locate it... I think the issue may be that the new artwork for is missing; I went digging into the bitmaps, and her new artowkr is NOWHERE to be found, so... I don't know if it's related to Brienne's broken images in the game, but...

 

[King_Ogre]

So, there's this issue where the artwork for Brienne will not show up: my guess, is that it's supposed to be that new artwork for her, and the coding can't locate it... I think the issue may be that the new artwork for is missing; I went digging into the bitmaps, and her new artowkr is NOWHERE to be found, so... I don't know if it's related to Brienne's broken images in the game, but...

It seems that you got the broken patch. Some post before there's the hotfix. And yes it was supposed to be the new assets. But Savin went full retard and didn't added them before release so... Tee-hee~

 

[Fikedever]

Is it known if all this anti-cheat built into the game code is interfering with the coc2 team's ability to code aswell?

There's no anti-cheat unless you are talking about the save modification popup which is just a custom MD5 hash verification. The code is minified if that is what you are talking about, but that happens after the build process which would not affect the CoC2 coders.

I think it is just a case of inexperience. Good coders are hard to find.

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I was thinking of the exact same thing. What is the purpose of this, when the milk stalls are a glorified brothel to begin with?

Prostitution in a game with such free availability of sex just feels off when it was first introduced.

It feels like a low effort money sink. Gwyn's doesn't feel as off even though you are essentially paying money for sex. But you are also paying money to improve your children's living conditions, and improving the nursery. If I were to invest in the Hawkthorne brothel, it would be a regular business investment with returns. I'd want the PC to own majority or wholly the profits as well as be able to further invest into it to improve it.

In that case, the KM brothel would be a business competitor. Acquisition.

You also marry into power in many places in the game, plus the Wayfort, so I think it fits.

but that would be a power fantasy

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Because it's focused on the milking aspect, duh. No male prostitutes either.

They couldn't put cock milking in there?

I remember Savin saying the Champion is not our character. They're the dev team's. Or something like that, he used Mass Effect as a reason so... yay, Mass Effect doesn't ruin just CRPGs* with its legacy but porn too.

*I remember when CRPGs actually had fucking choice and your character was your own, didn't need voice acting to limit you. I'm a grumpy old man, leave me alone.

Let's consider 3 approaches:

1. Write the champion as a character with a few options sprinkled about to explore the champion's character.
   1. Goal: The champion is not the player's character, but the champion keeps the player engaged because they are a well written character. Arguably, they should be the BEST written character, with the most time placed into getting them right. This is because they are by nature of being controlled by the player going to be the most interacted with. They connect us to the world and allow us to care about it through them.
   2. The game is about understanding the champion through choice.
2. Write the champion with branching dialogue paths in mind.
   1. Goal: The champion is molded by what the player is role playing as. It won't always line up one to one with what the player thinks should be said, but it fits well enough in the limitation of the game medium.
   2. The game is about choice itself.
3. The champion has multiple personality disorder dependent on which writer is writing for them.
   1. No consistency is maintained except for vague notions of the champion having one or two adjectives describing them. The companions now become the first line of characterization.
   2. Goal: Lower the barrier to entry for community submissions and do minimum work possible as an editor.
   3. The game is about the companions.

Unfortunately, they decided to instead give parts of 1 to Cait and 3 to the champion.

If they went with 1 I don't think it would take away from sex scene variety either. IMO you could easily explain it by the champion really liking role play. Being dom/sub, masculine/feminine coded words, etc in scenes is all the champion playing an act that they think their partner likes.

You would then have to maintain personality/ideals in normal dialogue though, which the current 3 system does not. The champion should have a cultural background as well which informs how they act. For example, I find they are much too passive when dealing with Kiyoko/Kinu. A kitsune husband might act like this, but I don't see why the champion would.

 

[King_Ogre]

Prostitution in a game with such free availability of sex just feels off when it was first introduced.

It feels like a low effort money sink. Gwyn's doesn't feel as off even though you are essentially paying money for sex. But you are also paying money to improve your children's living conditions, and improving the nursery. If I were to invest in the Hawkthorne brothel, it would be a regular business investment with returns. I'd want the PC to own majority or wholly the profits as well as be able to further invest into it to improve it.

In that case, the KM brothel would be a business competitor. Acquisition.

You also marry into power in many places in the game, plus the Wayfort, so I think it fits.

This could be the best way to make immersive the game, as well a way to make quick cash. Indeed a good idea.

et's consider 3 approaches:

1. Write the champion as a character with a few options sprinkled about to explore the champion's character.
   1. Goal: The champion is not the player's character, but the champion keeps the player engaged because they are a well written character. Arguably, they should be the BEST written character, with the most time placed into getting them right. This is because they are by nature of being controlled by the player going to be the most interacted with. They connect us to the world and allow us to care about it through them.
   2. The game is about understanding the champion through choice.
2. Write the champion with branching dialogue paths in mind.
   1. Goal: The champion is molded by what the player is role playing as. It won't always line up one to one with what the player thinks should be said, but it fits well enough in the limitation of the game medium.
   2. The game is about choice itself.
3. The champion has multiple personality disorder dependent on which writer is writing for them.
   1. No consistency is maintained except for vague notions of the champion having one or two adjectives describing them. The companions now become the first line of characterization.
   2. Goal: Lower the barrier to entry for community submissions and do minimum work possible as an editor.
   3. The game is about the companions.

CoC mainly is a story by choice, where you choices can affect how the story develops (something that Savin NEVER would capitalize)

Unfortunately, they decided to instead give parts of 1 to Cait and 3 to the champion.

Savin pet character. And he will never give her up to us (a mundane and filthy peasant)

If they went with 1 I don't think it would take away from sex scene variety either. IMO you could easily explain it by the champion really liking role play. Being dom/sub, masculine/feminine coded words, etc in scenes is all the champion playing an act that they think their partner likes.

You would then have to maintain personality/ideals in normal dialogue though, which the current 3 system does not. The champion should have a cultural background as well which informs how they act. For example, I find they are much too passive when dealing with Kiyoko/Kinu. A kitsune husband might act like this, but I don't see why the champion would.

As it should be. We should be the spotlight. But...

 

[Cakei]

Witch class is the most brain-dead to just spam attack or spells? I know there is easy mode but I prefer having a little bit of grind (even though is a porn text game).

 

[King_Ogre]

Witch class is the most brain-dead to just spam attack or spells? I know there is easy mode but I prefer having a little bit of grind (even though is a porn text game).

Black mage. Once you get up to lvl 4 you can do a good deal of damage if you build your stats correctly.
If you go with companions White mage is your better option.

 

[RenH]

Let's consider 3 approaches:

With this sentence alone, you've already put in more effort into the quality of the game than the dev team actually did.