Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Konstantinus]

Putting aside the trauma they all suffered and likely need to work through, it was jarring that not only are they capable fighters worthy of being your companions, but that there is basically no follow-up for them. What about making the trio into companions? What about giving them further development with respect to the shit they need to work through and make the champion symathetic to their recovery? Oh, right. It would mean catgirls that aren't Cait would get meaningful development and the champion would have a group of people that respect and appreciate them. Nope, can't have that shit.

Yeah it bugs you because you put their trauma aside and can not imagine how they feel. I can sadly say I speak from experience and thanks to my mother I have been there and done that. It whas clear at start when you have choice if you give them money and send them south or keep them there as their new owner, that latter will make them have the same as before but only that you treat them better. You may not be able to imagine that but from their personality they are slaves that do what is told them and they only revolted because they got treated like shit. Their mental trauma make it so that they will only do what they get told because it is easier but else have no real drive. To make them back into persons with their motivation and not as mere servants you would have needed to send them away because they have to learn on hard way to think for themselve.

 

[throbzombie]

Ooh, Christmas came early for me; Aileh art has been added to the game, it seems *Ode to Joy plays here*

-EDIT- It's Anon art. Groan.

-EDIT 2- But Brienne got some excellent new art, so it kinds balances out.

Also, how many times has the thread been purged in the last six days?

 

[Ssato243]

a lot god dammm

 

[IndOnesia]

I remember that Fenoxo has (in difference of Savin) a plan and a flowchart on how the game must be done and a set of rules for the setting.

In TiTS for example I remember pretty wellhow he managed Sperg McNipples so tight that his writing was decent and without any revenge writing or whatsoever. Fen has management skills and many of his updates were if not decent when where small and substancial when he delivered the thick on game and TF megapacks. But Savin lacks of it (idk if he has ADHD or something) and making it worse he has the leadership of a dying ostrich. Something that Sperg McGoo abuses whenever he has the chance (IE when in the forums people actually makes ideas to improve or more likely "salvage" the project and he blatantly rejects it. Like he was the lead dev), Or when he makes his 20 sheets novel chapter for something so trivial as a pregnancy (or a good creampie). Fen was tired of CoC but I can tell that he's amazed on how his friend (I believe that Fen and Savin are friends or acquaitances irl) managed to destroy his IP in a year. A SINGLE YEAR!

Idk how much Savin is making (reports are between 15-30k each month, but after this shitshow I have my doubts)on this dumpster fire, or if is salvageable at this point. But the thing is.If this is keeping the same course is actually taking is pretty possible that Fen is gonna axe it.

Spoiler: Me after every drop sized update

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I doubt fen will dip their hands to this because if he does he have to rewrite the whole ass game and code for things to make sense

(savin make 24k a month on his patreon)

 

[IndOnesia]

I have 3 writers so far that their content ranges from decent to great. Yet the ones I mostly avoid gets more updates in their content. Why is CoC2 like this...

On a sidenote, considering how Skow butchered the Hive. Why do I get the feeling either the Wayfort or the Winter "city" is going to get the same treatment? Isn't WC is Alyphia's domain? Will the future content be more focused on Yuri stuff too? Considering the interaction behind Daliza. Fuck me, I've been waiting for her content just to be gated behind not having a vagina. Again.

for me SKOW is pretty good
alypia content makes my male character become a cuntboy

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Yeah it bugs you because you put their trauma aside and can not imagine how they feel. I can sadly say I speak from experience and thanks to my mother I have been there and done that.

Right, and that bothers me as a (mostly) emotionally-stable adult. It smacks of someone who sees a stranger get the shit kicked out of them and rather than get involved or call an ambulance, you just shrug and move on. The writer of that quest clearly has enough apathy to make Jeff Bezos look like a Humanitarian.

It whas clear at start when you have choice if you give them money and send them south or keep them there as their new owner, that latter will make them have the same as before but only that you treat them better.

The whole "send them south" option felt as cynical as the writers appear to be. You just rescued them from a really shit situation, from a guy who is probably lurking nearby to take advantage of your absence, and your brilliant idea is to leave them to their own devices. I'm not saying ownership is the only option (what about setting them up in Hawkthorne? That bar must need some workers), but it felt like an easy way to hand-wave the issue of, I dunno, developing a character or three.

You may not be able to imagine that but from their personality they are slaves that do what is told them and they only revolted because they got treated like shit. Their mental trauma make it so that they will only do what they get told because it is easier but else have no real drive. To make them back into persons with their motivation and not as mere servants you would have needed to send them away because they have to learn on hard way to think for themselve.

It's not the only way, and in a lot of cases, is the worst option. Like I addressed above, it's also exposing them to the same circumstances in your absence. I actually like how Shield Hero addressed the situation similarly with Raphtalia. Naofumi could have been an absolute shit or just used her to satisfy his boners when she grew enough. Yeah, he's still a cunt for exposing a child to violence at such a young age. However, he did make her into a semi-independent warrior and came to care for her as a result.

I'm not saying the catgirl trio have to be our glorified cannon fodder, but they are proven fighters and aside, our Champion is meant to be salvaging as much of the world he can in preparation for a confrontation against the forces of Kasyrra. Why would you risk their probable corruption and/or abuse at the hands of another abuser? It makes no sense. It's even dumber when you get no further development with their situation, as if they stop have any autonomy whatsoever. That entirely contradicts when you first meet them and they seem inclined to maintain some degree of autonomy and self-protection.

 

[Cakei]

I wish, if the game live long enough, we get something like this...

But that's a power fantasy and I need to feel bad about it.

 

[JTakiyaa]

I wish, if the game live long enough, we get something like this...
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But that's a power fantasy and I need to feel bad about it.

Are you feeling it now Mr. Krab?

 

[Gizmogobum]

I dont think any of the data is stored in pack files unless you are on android then maybe.

I have the windows version. all the files in the "locales" folder are .pak files. In case I am mistaken and the weapon data is not there please tell me the location. Either way I should be able to use 7-zip to open archive, but it gives me an error. So either It is encrypted or something is wrong on my end.

 

[MillerTheMagnificent]

You mean the phoenix companion quest? Look at the wayfort. Although imo, she's not a good support companion

yeah that one. I can never find the old lady to start the quest, even after I do everything possible in winter city, atleast everything I know of.

 

[TravissPastrami]

I like how this thread has slowly turned to mainly complaints about the writers and staff working on CoC 2, don't get me wrong though I'm not criticizing, I have my fair share of complaints about them as well. In fact the whole reason I started typing this post was to ask other's how they feel about the writer's blatant hostility towards pretty much anyone on their forums. And it's not like I don't get some of it, it comes with the territory of making a porn game, but sometimes it seems like they are just outright antagonistic for no reason. They act like it would actually hurt them to disagree or tell someone no like a decent human being, they're usual go-to are responses that just make them all look like assholes.

 

[throbzombie]

Is Aileh actually implemented yet, or is it just her character art for now?

 

[RenH]

Well... It doesn't sounds bad imo

I'm pretty sure there's an actual porn parody of Final Fantasy somewhere on this website, lol. When it comes to this lovely bonfire we call a game, the problem is that it tries too hard to be a game with porn when it started out as porn with game but fails miserably at both.

 

[JTakiyaa]

I like how this thread has slowly turned to mainly complaints about the writers and staff working on CoC 2, don't get me wrong though I'm not criticizing, I have my fair share of complaints about them as well. In fact the whole reason I started typing this post was to ask other's how they feel about the writer's blatant hostility towards pretty much anyone on their forums. And it's not like I don't get some of it, it comes with the territory of making a porn game, but sometimes it seems like they are just outright antagonistic for no reason. They act like it would actually hurt them to disagree or tell someone no like a decent human being, they're usual go-to are responses that just make them all look like assholes.

I know right, the forum used to be not as toxic and the writers never chose sides except some occasion of dogpiling on assholes before. But slowly it starts to worsen. Political stuff, sjw fuckery, calling out anyone who were tough on criticism to go back to 4chan. Then CoC2 came and it gets so bad I pulled off my support entirely and avoided the forum since then and rant out here instead. They even treated several patreon backers like shit as long as theur opinion is in the minority, or whenever dedicking topic starts. I kid you not I've seen weebs more civilised discussing their waifu/husbando than in that shit flinging forum. And then there's ToBs who acted like Emperor Xi. Deciding whats right and not and Savin appease him or lose the main carry for the project. Shit is just bad man... the more time flies, the worse it gets...

 

[JTakiyaa]

Is Aileh actually implemented yet, or is it just her character art for now?

Dialogue? Yes. Fuckable? No.

 

[IndOnesia]

I know right, the forum used to be not as toxic and the writers never chose sides except some occasion of dogpiling on assholes before. But slowly it starts to worsen. Political stuff, sjw fuckery, calling out anyone who were tough on criticism to go back to 4chan. Then CoC2 came and it gets so bad I pulled off my support entirely and avoided the forum since then and rant out here instead. They even treated several patreon backers like shit as long as theur opinion is in the minority, or whenever dedicking topic starts. I kid you not I've seen weebs more civilised discussing their waifu/husbando than in that shit flinging forum. And then there's ToBs who acted like Emperor Xi. Deciding whats right and not and Savin appease him or lose the main carry for the project. Shit is just bad man... the more time flies, the worse it gets...

for me personally i didnt fully dislike the way they writing the game
it just how they treated their communities and put personal beef into the game,revenge writing etc
i used to be a member ship for savin in his patreon 1 year ago until some writer insert their tomfoolery into the game and savin didnt do anything about it
but i still supporting some of the writers(skow,B,wsan,william and 1 other dude that i forgot his name)
HughsAlright(creator of berwyn)is pretty good too until savin banned him from forum
TheObserver is cool with the lore and all until he turns into TheObsolete doing his crusading in both forum and game alike

 

[IndOnesia]

I like how this thread has slowly turned to mainly complaints about the writers and staff working on CoC 2, don't get me wrong though I'm not criticizing, I have my fair share of complaints about them as well. In fact the whole reason I started typing this post was to ask other's how they feel about the writer's blatant hostility towards pretty much anyone on their forums. And it's not like I don't get some of it, it comes with the territory of making a porn game, but sometimes it seems like they are just outright antagonistic for no reason. They act like it would actually hurt them to disagree or tell someone no like a decent human being, they're usual go-to are responses that just make them all look like assholes.

I think everyone in here have diferrent aspect to dislike on this game but i can probably agree that all users in here hate the devs behavior went it come to handling the community

 

[JTakiyaa]

for me personally i didnt fully dislike the way they writing the game
it just how they treated their communities and put personal beef into the game,revenge writing etc
i used to be a member ship for savin in his patreon 1 year ago until some writer insert their tomfoolery into the game and savin didnt do anything about it
but i still supporting some of the writers(skow,B,wsan,william and 1 other dude that i forgot his name)
HughsAlright(creator of berwyn)is pretty good too until savin banned him from forum
TheObserver is cool with the lore and all until he turns into TheObsolete doing his crusading in both forum and game alike

Tobs has been acting high and mighty even before he got into CoC2 teams. Over some dumb shit from his past project in FoE. Why the fuck was he so pissed about CoC old incest drama is whats confusing to me the most. He's not even in the team, why does he act like those people fucked his mom and goes on a vendetta to the whole other community bogles me.

 

[IndOnesia]

Tobs has been acting high and mighty even before he got into CoC2 teams. Over some dumb shit from his past project in FoE. Why the fuck was he so pissed about CoC old incest drama is whats confusing to me the most. He's not even in the team, why does he act like those people fucked his mom and goes on a vendetta to the whole other community bogles me.

This dude got some seriouuuus superiority complex or some shit
malding over some content in flash game from 6 year ago

 

[WazaQQXOXO]

Tobs has been acting high and mighty even before he got into CoC2 teams. Over some dumb shit from his past project in FoE. Why the fuck was he so pissed about CoC old incest drama is whats confusing to me the most. He's not even in the team, why does he act like those people fucked his mom and goes on a vendetta to the whole other community bogles me.

Some people want to see the world burn.
Joke aside, some folks are spiteful just for the sake of being spiteful, and there is nothing you can do to change their mind. TOBS is an autoproclamed salt-miner : it says a lot about the gentleman.

It’s necessary to be able to handle warranted criticism if one wants to strive, but people that have this mindset is rarer than you can think.