Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daddums]

wsan has always done stuff like this, non-schizos just generally don't care because it's super obviously flagged and easily avoided if it's not your thing. if it was a newer trend for a writer who hadn't done that stuff previously I'd get the worry, but this is nothing new, and he's been decent at providing alternatives when appropriate (including the obvious entire alternative character).

Wsan seems like a switch to me. He likes domming and subbing and for the most part the quality between the works seem the same in terms of passion. If I had to guess he just thinks the audience prefers sub content and sharing, so we see more of that first, but that's probably because of the echochamber of a forums.

 

[Konstantinus]

She already have two/three/whatever dragon daughters. Or they are adopted?

She told you on romance path in her dimension room that those are only adopted as she only teach them how to be a demonic dragon and so they consider them as her mother.
She wants your soul so she can put it into her balls and/or womb to make real children and not just soulless imps.

Anyway something went wrong with Windows so my laptop locked me out of it.
Turns out I have to play all of it from the start.
The good thing is, this time I can stop myself from being naiv and let Cait fuck Berwyn.

 

[sskrx7]

Until she needs a heir and you're not sporting a vagina.

you can always hire a mallachite's womb.

 

[Basty96]

you can always hire a mallachite's womb.

only that the child will be raised and groomed by the Mallach Whore-Priesthood

 

[Biostar]

you can always hire a mallachite's womb.

Not much better. What we should have is a dedicking option so she can have the baby.

 

[Skandranon]

Not much better. What we should have is a dedicking option so she can have the baby.

Eh, I think it's more reasonable that every character might not be amenable to losing their bits.

Honestly I strongly suspect that they just don't want the smoke that might arise from fully changing the gender of what's basically a trans character.

 

[Daddums]

Eh, I think it's more reasonable that every character might not be amenable to losing their bits.

Honestly I strongly suspect that they just don't want the smoke that might arise from fully changing the gender of what's basically a trans character.

Then why not add a vagina? You can have both in this game and given their dialogue really revolves around feeling like a true and honest woman... it would make much more sense for Ryn to concede and get one than the MC if he's particularly macho.

 

[Skandranon]

Then why not add a vagina? You can have both in this game and given their dialogue really revolves around feeling like a true and honest woman... it would make much more sense for Ryn to concede and get one than the MC if he's particularly macho.

Read what you just wrote. You basically just said without a vagina, Ryn can't be a "true" woman...which is exactly how it'll come off, and exactly the kind of thing that could cause some major blowback in this day and age.

 

[WazaQQXOXO]

Then why not add a vagina? You can have both in this game and given their dialogue really revolves around feeling like a true and honest woman... it would make much more sense for Ryn to concede and get one than the MC if he's particularly macho.

I remember seeing a post where one of CoC2 devs made crystal clear Ryn's vagina ain't gonna be an option in the future; either the MC gets one, or she gonna slam Elthara. They stated that the reason behind this choice is that adding an extra set of genitals will increase the number of variables the devs /writers will have to account for, which has for consequence increasing the complexity of the writing / coding.

 

[mightaswell]

Been quite a while since i last came across this game, how's the development been going? I recall reaching Etheryn's castle or somesuch the last time i played, have they added much content beyond that?

 

[Skandranon]

Been quite a while since i last came across this game, how's the development been going? I recall reaching Etheryn's castle or somesuch the last time i played, have they added much content beyond that?

Since Winter City?

Yeah...a lot.

 

[Daddums]

Read what you just wrote. You basically just said without a vagina, Ryn can't be a "true" woman...which is exactly how it'll come off, and exactly the kind of thing that could cause some major blowback in this day and age.

I'm not sure I want to go down this rabbit hole. I'll say I disagree about the blowback if only because I've seen the kinds of games they play, they're really into that sissification and forced transformation stuff. I understand where you're coming from, though.

Also Ryn's words, not mine.

I remember seeing a post where one of CoC2 devs made crystal clear Ryn's vagina ain't gonna be an option in the future; either the MC gets one, or she gonna slam Elthara. They stated that the reason behind this choice is that adding an extra set of genitals will increase the number of variables the devs /writers will have to account for, which has for consequence increasing the complexity of the writing / coding.

For the amount of money he's raking in and for the team he has accrued, I've seen better effort put forth in various branching and even reworking past scenes from one man teams than I have anything on this game. There really isn't an excuse when you look at the money they're making. They can finance it.

 

[Ibaraki-Douji]

Did that post on Fen's site about Tobs new game get removed?
I was really hoping the post was still up in hopes of seeing the juicy comments.

 

[Lord Kentus]

I'm not sure I want to go down this rabbit hole. I'll say I disagree about the blowback if only because I've seen the kinds of games they play, they're really into that sissification and forced transformation stuff. I understand where you're coming from, though.

Also Ryn's words, not mine.

For the amount of money he's raking in and for the team he has accrued, I've seen better effort put forth in various branching and even reworking past scenes from one man teams than I have anything on this game. There really isn't an excuse when you look at the money they're making. They can finance it.

I do really hope that if Savin is too lazy to actually write and code the dedicking or even just the adding of a vagina to Ryn that the modding community steps up to produce the option because its just laziness and spite otherwise.

Why even bother romancing a character like that then? Oi bear my heirs or I will cheat on you with the high priestess

 

[Skandranon]

I'm not sure I want to go down this rabbit hole. I'll say I disagree about the blowback if only because I've seen the kinds of games they play, they're really into that sissification and forced transformation stuff. I understand where you're coming from, though.

Also Ryn's words, not mine.

For the amount of money he's raking in and for the team he has accrued, I've seen better effort put forth in various branching and even reworking past scenes from one man teams than I have anything on this game. There really isn't an excuse when you look at the money they're making. They can finance it.

I do really hope that if Savin is too lazy to actually write and code the dedicking or even just the adding of a vagina to Ryn that the modding community steps up to produce the option because its just laziness and spite otherwise.

Why even bother romancing a character like that then? Oi bear my heirs or I will cheat on you with the high priestess

Is it cheating if your character is already banging and probably also impregnated the same high priestess?

Seems like a weird double standard.

 

[Lord Kentus]

Is it cheating if your character is already banging and probably also impregnated the same high priestess?

Seems like a weird double standard.

I will reply to this in good faith despite the erm low hanging fruit so to say.

Who is to say you even spark the relation with the priestess on your end? You can just take the rod and leave and never bother interacting with her again in a sexual light, so double standard? Only if your chosen actions line up with it to be so I guess.

But even if it is a double standard, assuming you can play a character like that isn't out of left field for the game's predecessor, one of my favorite notable lines from COC1 is ahem "Fun without you is no fun at all" in reference to the harem interacting without the PC in a sexual light, so basically its reduction of choice that was clearly present in the prior work.

So yeah pure or corrupt reasoning for why this is not the route to be forced.

 

[Skandranon]

I will reply to this in good faith despite the erm low hanging fruit so to say.

Who is to say you even spark the relation with the priestess on your end? You can just take the rod and leave and never bother interacting with her again in a sexual light, so double standard? Only if your chosen actions line up with it to be so I guess.

I mean...even if you don't fuck the priestess, chances are you fucked and impregnated someone, no? Unless you went the whole game not banging any impregnable character, you did the same thing.

The idea that anyone plays this game with the intention of monogamy just doesn't track.

But even if it is a double standard, assuming you can play a character like that isn't out of left field for the game's predecessor, one of my favorite notable lines from COC1 is ahem "Fun without you is no fun at all" in reference to the harem interacting without the PC in a sexual light, so basically its reduction of choice that was clearly present in the prior work.

Mmm...no, you're misremembering CoC. Maybe that was the opinion of whoever said that line, but CoC had a bunch of scenes in camp you could walk in on where your companions were having fun without you.

Off the top of my head, Isabella and the salamander chick banged and you could just walk in on that, all your corrupt members usually would bang others, your demon girl had her own harem, I'm pretty sure Amily had a scene but I don't remember what it was....

In fact, CoC2 has LESS of your companions doing their own thing without your say so, by a lot.

Your partners exclusively banging you has basically never been a thing.

 

[Lord Kentus]

I mean...even if you don't fuck the priestess, chances are you fucked and impregnated someone, no? Unless you went the whole game not banging any impregnable character, you did the same thing.

The idea that anyone plays this game with the intention of monogamy just doesn't track.

It thankfully doesn't need to for this, why pursue a romance when the payoff such as it is, is what it is?

I merely presented an in character perspective, them breaching that is the onus of the game not mine. Its hardly unique to me either.

Mmm...no, you're misremembering CoC. Maybe that was the opinion of whoever said that line, but CoC had a bunch of scenes in camp you could walk in on where your companions were having fun without you.

That's actually the line said when you disable the sharkgirl(forgot her name) from playing with the harpy(forgot her name) without you present, you can likewise disable the sharkgirl from playing with the goo girl, there are a few overlooks in this list sure but that's probably because the game as it stands now is like finished? If that?

Your partners exclusively banging you has basically never been a thing.

Actually that's an invention of the sequel that I don't find myself alone in disliking. It existed in pretty decent frequency in the original, there were a few of the various NPCs that you could pursue relations with that weren't exclusive but a decent chunk of them were.

I mean this logic is why I always bimbo Azzy or just leave her at home in COC2 even in the pure runs because erm, she just ruins the dynamic if brought in as a party member.

Back to the topic at hand though, yeah I find the presented solution for the Ryn issue untenable and reductive of what the prior game had on offer, especially since you could dedick quite a few futas back in the original. Just because Savin gets off on this cuckholdry bullshit doesn't mean that everyone does.

 

[Skandranon]

It thankfully doesn't need to for this, why pursue a romance when the payoff such as it is, is what it is?

Why? For the rest of the game.
If I'm doing Ryns content, I'm doing it for the sex scenes, the dates, the dialogue and character development, etc. I'm not doing it for some nebulous payoff 4 or 5 years down the road. I don't think anyone is.

I merely presented an in character perspective, them breaching that is the onus of the game not mine. Its hardly unique to me either.

It's one character. There were several other characters that didn't share that perspective. Different characters have different situations; the point is that when you're saying CoC2 is living up to the standard of CoC, that was never the standard of the game, just a character in it.

That's actually the line said when you disable the sharkgirl(forgot her name) from playing with the harpy(forgot her name) without you present, you can likewise disable the sharkgirl from playing with the goo girl, there are a few overlooks in this list sure but that's probably because the game as it stands now is like finished? If that?

The fact that she wants to do it, and will do it without you if you give her the okay kinda contradicts the whole idea of that line though? Being able to disable it is not the same thing as those characters clearly wanting to fuck around without you.

Actually that's an invention of the sequel that I don't find myself alone in disliking. It existed in pretty decent frequency in the original, there were a few of the various NPCs that you could pursue relations with that weren't exclusive but a decent chunk of them were.

How is that an invention of the sequel if it was also in the original game? I must be misunderstanding something here, sorry.

Back to the topic at hand though, yeah I find the presented solution for the Ryn issue untenable and reductive of what the prior game had on offer, especially since you could dedick quite a few futas back in the original. Just because Savin gets off on this cuckholdry bullshit doesn't mean that everyone does.

The "presented solution" hasn't happened yet and we don't really know what form it'll take. I would think, given almost every other interaction in this has the ability to not happen, there's a decent chance there's a choice here too.

And calling this "cuckoldry" is...weird.

Every single relationship in this game is an open relationship, even if the characters don't take advantage of it. Brienne and Kiyoko not fucking other people isnt because you've both agreed on exclusivity, they just aren't interested. Both of them even have a conversation about it.

 

[actualrealname]

Wsan seems like a switch to me. He likes domming and subbing and for the most part the quality between the works seem the same in terms of passion. If I had to guess he just thinks the audience prefers sub content and sharing, so we see more of that first, but that's probably because of the echochamber of a forums.

Yeah man's a full blooded cumbrain, it's perfect for a smut writer. It's pretty rare to see a writer who seems just as passionate and capable of writing dom and sub stuff, let alone full on slut stuff and a character like brienne.