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Whether it will be explored is another question, but it's seemed pretty obvious to me from the start that Cait has told herself a lot of convenient lies about her religion that serve her own personal desires and give her the "excuse" to slut it up however she pleases, while saying it's just what she's expected to do as a Mallachite. I'd hope that bringing a more organized type of her religion into the local region is eventually going to bring a reckoning with this self-serving view Cait has on it, and we'll get to see how she deals with remembering the parts of life in the temple she's been trying to forget.
I would hope that starting this temple brings Cait a new perspective. She ran away from her temple, that is the entire reason she is in the Marches. I wouldn't say she ever ran away from her religion though, I think she just didn't like the corrupt practices of her temple. This does give some leeway in why she would jump on creating her own temple. I personally find it boring, but it isn't necessarily unrealistic character motivations if she only has an internal influence. Salwah certainly isn't going to go against her.

The only character that would have a meaningful outside perspective from the temple is the PC, but they are indifferent and have no opinion on the matter.
I's rather just turn her away from the worship of Savarra's "gods." Mallach is nothing but a glorified pimp, and the rest are little better. They don't have much to offer.
After Keros doing the whole age up thing apparently on purpose I have no reason to trust the other Gods. While Keros is the trickster god, I would have figured it would be considered evil or a dick move to not inform a person of the consequences of you fulfilling his request in good faith. If you were trying to trick him, I could understand it as him getting back at you.
I honestly have way less hate for this game (and Cait) than most people here but one thing that seriously infuriates me is the wiki. This game has gotten to a level where it’s impossible to see every scene without it and there’s tons of scenes I’ve found that aren’t mentioned anywhere because the wiki has been untouched.
I don't hate Cait either, but I don't love her either. Mostly just bored with her direction of development. I dislike Salwah but I think it is less Salwah's fault and more Tob's specific exposition dump way of delivering lore building through character talk options.

I think the less is more when it comes to exposition dumps, but I can also understand why expanding the lore would be important. I think there are better ways to do it though, at least while maintaining the complete lack of PC input to avoid writing the variability. Actually visiting a place like Jassira would be possibly the best way, experiencing first hand how these people act. This is probably why Tobs does those dungeons in which you play out the content as another character. It is an easy way to give an excuse to teleport the player to a different time and context without doing the work of creating a whole new zone or worrying about time travel.

That takes a lot of work though, so I think a better way to do it with minimal work difference would be to have books you can read. Sure, still exposition dumps, but at least effort doesn't have to go into the riveting PC dialogue of "Oh." You can't give opinions to a book in real life, so it puts the player into the mind set that the player character shouldn't be giving opinions. With the current system being dialogue with a character, it makes it easy to notice how little opinion and indifferent the PC is.

They have made it clear that the PC is meant to be a character and has opinions outside of what the player feels. Understandable, but the PC is uninteresting and boring.

Which brings me to my new theory: the PC is actually just like River and was created in story to be at the Frost Hound. They lack personality because they aren't actually a person, and their creator had to decide with limited time on giving them an interesting personality or super fast learning capabilities.
I can't believe it, but the kitsune den is slowly making me hate kitsunes. You'd hate to see it.
Is there's a way to transform into one without meeting them? I just want to be a magical sage blasting others to oblivion.
I would like to say I don't hate the Kitsune, but I've also been avoiding Kinu's content (I haven't even played the first quest). At this point I think the only reason I would give them a second chance is if we can influence them to revolt against their old country. The reality is that the only thing that is going to happen with them is Kinu doing Kinuy things and finally becoming so powerful she is able to transend the 4th wall and become the protoganist of the whole game.
 

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If you browse the discord, Bubbleord's not very discreet about it. Her name's Rune, also he might get with a goblin chimera name August, but that's not as set in stone. I believe she's the purple hair cat in the background in the new Mallach temple CG
Cute. So will it be added with his next expansion or something? Any more info about it? Also, anything else new mentioned pm discord?
 
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Like no joke, Kasyrra has the only concrete and good goal (try and reinsert souls into demons) that I'd genuinely actually wanna look into (because the whole idea behind imps is lame as hell as they just shit out more, boring red dick havers)
feeling this! for me Kasyrra is the most exciting content but I REALLY hope they dont give us demonification only as bad end option... I was patreon support for this game but the content that got released, I just didnt care at all. In an ultimate CoC II I want to decide whether I go pure or the full corruption mode and (for me) the much more interesting path would be to help corrupt the whole world aside with Kasyrra. The amount of content you would have when you could slowly but surely corrupt even the main city's citizens. Holy shit that would be some great content. I am tired of the games when you go evil it ends in the BAD END screen (I know there are some but in this transformation/fantasy genre not many) and CoC II has the option to go the path all the way down.

All in all I really like this game but on fenoxo homepage I see nearly no criticism about the content release direction! In my opinion there should be much more riot about the content releases and I think alot of ppl are just looking for the corruption main story path but dont brother writing any critics...
 

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Yeah, and then I avoid the den altogether. I only even do it to fill in that gray box in the Ways Between.
That and get the charm rings from the merchant/purple eggs because if you're not a wizard then that extra defence is pretty good.
 

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Cute. So will it be added with his next expansion or something? Any more info about it? Also, anything else new mentioned pm discord?
Don't know, all I got was that there was going to be a Quin and Rune expac, didn't say if it was going to be with his or if it's going to be it's own thing.
Other stuff they discuss in the discord, I saw a glimpse of Berwyn quest, it involves a changeling who got stuck in a hideous form, and you go all body positivity with her. There's going to be new hobgoblins, and most of their content centers around gangbangs. If you browse you can see what Einen(the last companion), and a Brint's sister look like. There some other stuff but that's all I can currently think of off the top of my head.

Edit- They also joke around about Quin and Berwyn hooking up, but Bubblebord said it was forbidden for Quin to get with any companions that weren't Cait so I don't know how serious that one is
 
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Hey you learn some interesting stuff delving there, like according Bubblebord, the forums don't have moderators, that's the sycophants when they can give their honest opinion. Also he really doesn't like how disliked Quin is, which made me realize that whether it's Quin , Takahiro, or Marked Mercenaries, he really loves to write jerk characters, forget the heart of gold and is confused why people don't like them.
But in all seriousness, with the wiki being as awful as it is, the discord is the best place to find subtle things about your favorite characters. Heaven knows the dullahan needs all the love she can get.
 
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If you browse the discord, Bubbleord's not very discreet about it. Her name's Rune, also he might get with a goblin chimera name August, but that's not as set in stone. I believe she's the purple hair cat in the background in the new Mallach temple CG
so bk paid for her oc to get in and romance a companion? what the fuck is this, deviantart?
 

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feeling this! for me Kasyrra is the most exciting content but I REALLY hope they dont give us demonification only as bad end option... I was patreon support for this game but the content that got released, I just didnt care at all. In an ultimate CoC II I want to decide whether I go pure or the full corruption mode and (for me) the much more interesting path would be to help corrupt the whole world aside with Kasyrra. The amount of content you would have when you could slowly but surely corrupt even the main city's citizens. Holy shit that would be some great content. I am tired of the games when you go evil it ends in the BAD END screen (I know there are some but in this transformation/fantasy genre not many) and CoC II has the option to go the path all the way down.

All in all I really like this game but on fenoxo homepage I see nearly no criticism about the content release direction! In my opinion there should be much more riot about the content releases and I think alot of ppl are just looking for the corruption main story path but dont brother writing any critics...
I quite liked some of the corruption content in original COC but only when it didn't lead to boring impfests

tbh, my ideal scenario would be actually going full Kreia in being a non-retarded evil, where yea, they're corrupting everyone and making demons but they figure out how to solve the imp/soul issue and actually make viable species and preggo shit instead of the incredibly boring "oh yeah and they make everyone sluts and they all shit out imps all day" which is dull dull dull and honestly just so cucked

I'm still mad how the elf dungeon didn't have real preggo AT ALL and the sister is transformed and made into an imp factory. I wanted to fuck the sister, with sissy staring on, not just watch others have fun or read fucking paragraphs of their mind-numbingly boring and dull lore
 

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Yeah holy shit Savin is the worst fucking editor for this game. The only good content to come out in months is the orc preggos and even that is thin.

Literally nothing in this game even comes close to the original Farm in COC in terms of content and replayability and that's just one facet of that, jc
 

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Hey you learn some interesting stuff delving there, like according Bubblebord, the forums don't have moderators, that's the sycophants when they can give their honest opinion. Also he really doesn't like how disliked Quin is, which made me realize that whether it's Quin , Takahiro, or Marked Mercenaries, he really loves to write jerk characters, forget the heart of gold and is confused why people don't like them.
But in all seriousness, with the wiki being as awful as it is, the discord is the best place to find subtle things about your favorite characters. Heaven knows the dullahan needs all the love she can get.
Oh I don't fucking know, maybe Bubblelord could, like, maybe, just maybe, not write absolutely incredibly mediocre and forgettable characters (quin) or utter dogshit (takahiro). Maybe then more than just 1.2 percent of the fanbase would care.

Then again Quin suffers from the mostly-straightish-male-fanbase problem, but Bubblelord actually has no talent for writing. At least Tobs is polarizing, but being forgettable is worse than that.
 

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Wait what? She can actually get kidnapped? How the fuck does that happen?

I honestly have way less hate for this game (and Cait) than most people here but one thing that seriously infuriates me is the wiki. This game has gotten to a level where it’s impossible to see every scene without it and there’s tons of scenes I’ve found that aren’t mentioned anywhere because the wiki has been untouched.
Tbf Wikis are kept by communities, and COC2's got one person that did a lot of contributions, can't be too mad at him or at the community, a lot of massive games have very lackluster Wikis
 

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In the Centaur quest, do exactly the opposite of what she says.
I honestly I wasn’t super into the centaur quest. I feel like the enemy centaurs outside the village quest (packleader, crazy horse, shaman) were actually so much more fun content that I played through the quest a couple times just to see bad ends and didn’t even think of just attacking him.

That’s where my frustration lies though. There’s so much content that’s hidden or just straight up not mentioned in the change logs it sucks to have to re roll a character later just to play this one scene that may come up later.
Tbf Wikis are kept by communities, and COC2's got one person that did a lot of contributions, can't be too mad at him or at the community, a lot of massive games have very lackluster Wikis
That is fair. I’m not really bitching just more mildly annoyed with the bunch of steps and hoops to get certain scenes that lock other ones out. I try to play all the scenes at least once to see if I’ll like it which gets difficult when certain things you do lock out others.
 
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Oh I don't fucking know, maybe Bubblelord could, like, maybe, just maybe, not write absolutely incredibly mediocre and forgettable characters (quin) or utter dogshit (takahiro). Maybe then more than just 1.2 percent of the fanbase would care.

Then again Quin suffers from the mostly-straightish-male-fanbase problem, but Bubblelord actually has no talent for writing. At least Tobs is polarizing, but being forgettable is worse than that.
That would hold up if Brint didn't exist. Granted Brint is about as barren as Atugia if you're not sexually interested in him, but on the whole people at the very least don't mind him. Then again Berwyn suffers from the same problem as Quin. Even down to both writers saying that the two will never be feminized.
Doesn't help that those two are mechanically the worst companions in the game, Quin was awful until Azzyran came and once Cait became a dancer he became even more redundant. Berwyn is just confused about what role he wants to do. Cait may be Cait, but at least having four sets gives you a reason to use her even if you hate her.
 

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so bk paid for her oc to get in and romance a companion? what the fuck is this, deviantart?
Eh, it's something for the character. Quin is probably the least liked companion in the game, for various reason. This can least go an Inigo or Sylvain route where it at least shows underneath all that womanizing, he's a 3-dimensional character. Or it can be a Liaden and Azzyran situation where the relationship is so pointless you almost forget it's a thing. Things can literally not go any worse for the poor rabbit.
Though I'm guessing it's going to be a Charlotte and Inigo thing where they both openly swing, but they'll always be each other's no.1.
 

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That would hold up if Brint didn't exist. Granted Brint is about as barren as Atugia if you're not sexually interested in him, but on the whole people at the very least don't mind him. Then again Berwyn suffers from the same problem as Quin. Even down to both writers saying that the two will never be feminized.
Doesn't help that those two are mechanically the worst companions in the game, Quin was awful until Azzyran came and once Cait became a dancer he became even more redundant. Berwyn is just confused about what role he wants to do. Cait may be Cait, but at least having four sets gives you a reason to use her even if you hate her.
Still waiting on Berwyn's sub route.
 

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So, since these last couple of updates were, what is the word for it, lackluster, I decided to compile list of things developers are working on. Just to make it seem like all of this is hot air is building up to something

Some stuff from
-Wsan said that he is planning on going deeper into Brienne situation and into her curse. He says that it is going to be hard for her.

-He is thinking/planning on giving that GILF Komari some much deserved bonafied love in distant future.

-I found how Tara, goddes of war, may look like. Not sure where they found it, but nice.
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Now on to things from the forums
-The introduction of Wayfort is a big game changer if developers were to be belived. It will basically make you a ruler of the land, which will have impact on the wider story.
One of the things that the developers commented on is on how it will all work. You have options to join elves as their Baron/ess, go independent with the help of the demon kitty/Jaelyn, or take all 3 on the offer (keeping your options open). Now these are not strictly good and evil paths. As in to say, if you join Elfes, you are not locked in to being good/pure and evil. But what happens if you refuse them all? Then you lose option to rebuild wayfort.

-But what function will it poses. Well, you will get some sort of income if I could guess, you will be able to have different NPCs take refuge there (especially corrupt ones). And story related stuff such as passing judgements on people that you rule over...
Now I am not sure will this cary over if you rule solo, but it will probably have its own story consequences down the line.

-Also, that summoning cercal will allow us to fuck our summons. Neat.

>The content for it should be gradually released over next couple of months. Brunt of the work will be handled by Savin himself and Some Kind of Wizard. for more info.

>B, the writer of Kobald god(dess) lyric has written a random Kobald encounter. It feautures both males and females. You can choose if you want to have orgy with boys/girls/both. So that is nice.

>He is also finished a femboy minotaur by the name of Nikol that is part of Khorminos. He is a gigolo. What is unique about him is how you are going to be able to influence him how he is going to act with your champion. He can either take dominant or submissive role during sex (both in reciving and giving) or make it so that you are both on equal footing. There is also another brown femboy he is working on but I will save it for latter.

>Balaknight (writer of forest witch and unfuckable goblin milf) is writing a hostile encounter succubus goblin girl in vain of CoC goblins. Kind of redundant combination but she seems nice.

>While rest of the god forms/champion titles have not been set in stone nor how many of them will be,

>One is name of Lumia, goddes of lovemaking and pregnancy. Becoming her champion will make you a valkery. That entails you becoming more feminine which means being classified as shemale/herm/female. Which entails gaining breast and making your face softer and gaining angelic wings.

-Becoming Narevas champion, goddes of knowledge, will lead you into becoming gothmander. A fiery emo salamnder person that eats magic.


>Savin, while not 100 percent confirming, said that he has plans for exiled Arona. As of now, the exiled one is objectively worse in every way, by his own admission. Less content of her and you lose entire Orc camp.
So how will he make up for that dichotomy? Well, since she has no protection from her clan, she is pretty damn valnurable. A lone orc is a pretty easy picking for a champ with ill intentions. And really, who is going to care for what happens to one lone Orc left on her lonesome?

>K, so this is in process of getting reviewed, but a forum user and artist by the name of SleepyJoslyn is making a transgirl minotaur. Not something I am personally interested in, but you can read all about her

>Einen, the thief mouse girl companion done by William, is basically a virgin inexpirienced girl that you are going to be able to push in many different directions. Here is the quote from man himself
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>Finally, onto the main thing. You remember B and his femboy minotaur. That was all prelude to this main event. Berwyn is getting an expansion at long last. And boy, does it sound like a douzy. In short, Not only will you be able to fuck new Salamander NPC. Not only will you be able to finally interact with his mistress and do a lot of sexy things to her. Give her to berwyn to fuck/turn her into his lover, fuck her yourself, send her to Wayfort. But Berwyn sub route is happening and you will be able to TF him extensivly. From giving him breast, reducing his dick, him having no dick at all, you will be able to customize him to your needs. But more then that, he will, like the fem minotaur before him, be able to be pushed in a lot of directions. You will be able to keep him your dom, you will be able to turn him into your sub or make him a power bottom or submissive top. Think of you railing his ass while he is holding the leash. All of that and more can be found in Be reminded that this is all in planning stages. How much of this will stick we will have to wait to find out.


Good fucking lord, please, just release something already.
 
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Though I'm guessing it's going to be a Charlotte and Inigo thing where they both openly swing, but they'll always be each other's no.1.
that sounds like it would be fucking terrible if it happened. if you already like quin, why would anyone want the relationship they have with someone who they most likely spend extended periods of time with be completely overshadowed by their partner's relationship with another person? i don't think any quin fans are saying "i want to get cucked by some paypig's oc!"
if you don't care about or dislike him, why would you want to read about his relationship with some random person? not to mention the fact that if you want to get involved with rune yourself, you'll have to deal with her liking one of your companions that you don't care for more than you.
on a similar subject, i might be retarded but does anyone know how you raise quin's relationship score? i'm interested in seeing his romance content but i can't figure out how to see it and the wiki only has his pre-quest content.
 
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