NeverWorks

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I would actually commend Savin if he goes against the voices in his head and includes a path where Cait becomes a champ sexual waifu. There's a near negative chance it'll happen, but I will commend him if it does.
Make it her corruption route. Mallach wants her to spread sex and love? Well corrupt Cait is now a prudish housewife who thinks sex is dirty and shameful, and though she's willing to make an exception to fuck the champion, she hates every second of her multiple orgasms.
 

Daken9

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Remember, this is the same man who thought having loving parents = incest. He talks mad game about making Kinu 'her own person' yet gives the player the ability to play as her during her childhood and at some parts of her adult life as well, feeding into the illusion that your choices matter. Getting her to appreciate her own culture more turns her into a courtesan who dresses in such a way that makes Miko look like a nun whereas instilling your own 'native' values turns her into a potato farmer.

Oh, and there's no playable sequence nor build-up towards Kinu being shipped off to either of the bland/infuriating 'love interests' in the kitsune conclave.
Gets even weirder when you realize Gwyn is in love with her father and sees her mother as a rival, then remember about all his commitioned art of Kinu getting smashed :FacePalm:. Pretty sure dude is just massively in denial about his own kinks, for whatever reason.

Not that i care too much, to be fair. I gave up on Kinu being a decent character after she had her 5th existential crisis as a 5 years old.
 
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Konstantinus

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Make it her corruption route. Mallach wants her to spread sex and love? Well corrupt Cait is now a prudish housewife who thinks sex is dirty and shameful, and though she's willing to make an exception to fuck the champion, she hates every second of her multiple orgasms.
More like MGE Kasyrra Corruption where you are forbidden to spread your legs for anyone. The place is only for your beloved and his/her futa lovers if (s)he likes watching her get fucked by them too.
Remember Demon Cow Brienne dream.
 

Raf-Raf

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Based on that, would you say the game is more enjoyable playing as a "regular" FEM MC?
With all the futas in CoC 2, I try to play as a different kind, heck even playing as a NORMAL person in CoC 2 is weird.
Our MC is literally written to be into anything and everything that's why all mobs' seduce attacks work on us.
If there's a way to play as a PRUDE, that'll be an interesting experience. (Lilith's Throne? Hello?)
 
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King_Ogre

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A good way to fix this dumpster fire:
>Rewrite it entirely
>Gather all assets and enhance it to take 2 routes: Prude (slow spiral) or Slut (corrupt)
>Make Caith a real priest (She wants to spread love? OK, but she's a wreck and has a literal faith crisis)
>Reduce the futa up to 70% (You can make them, dedick them or fuck-it all Ralph) to make room for better NPC body mod
>Make a route of Solo Doom Slayer (Uber difficult but doable)
>Make corruption a way to deviate from your original goal and make it progressive (Frog boil Reference)
>Capitalize corruption (Can get Skills and perks based on how deep you are)
>Corruption doesn't go over time
>Cait can"cleanse" you (But she hate it because it implies a lot of degrading sex that can corrupt her too in a low chance by making her a total sub)
>Develop a manageable centaur village (Too shallow tbh), and making it a Village. Not a forgotten map.
>Making the cult more interactive (Join as covert or not, taking it over or destroy it entirely)
>TF affects everyone and can be administered to anyone
>Companions has preferences
>You can romance any companion
>The cat harem can be modified (enhance fertility, dick, accelerate pregnancies or make them all milky)
>The wayfort is your HQ not the tavern (Garth makes you move for overcrowding)
>The foxhole has a better writing (Tone down Kirito to acceptable levels, even the MF can join with you to "learn the blade"/making a name for himself while you protect the colonies)
>Kiyoko has more depth and she's more open when you join "ze souless foxes"
>Kinu has brains instead blind obedience (Make a side to find her ninja way: Return as head of the Otomo, join you You're her daddy anyways, or find another place to stablish a new den)
>Make an interlude where Kiyo asks you to select a "Capable Partner" for Kinu (incompatible with the ninja way and timed)
>Being a fox makes you a vampire (With perks too)
>Winter city gets more depth (Yes, the Jotun issue must be dealt with)
>Make brienne less sub and more independent (Is nice a devoted and submissive gf, but goddamn. Is tiring that every day needs a good plow ffs)
>Demons are better than just corruption by fucking (Make even a demon companion, I REJECT MY DAEMONHOOD KAS-TARO!!!!)
>Dedick, Grow a spine or kill Rin (in minecraft...Being honest, Ryn is nearly useless if not for her healer set, and being a "shemale with issues" that cannot grow [unless you know... Fuck the issues away]). Also make a 4th option when you finish the Winter City: Corrupt her (if you have enough corruption and you are in Kas good side, also having a low res Ryn AKA fuckpet) you can get her out the cage and she can transform in either full woman or a real futa.
>Make Quinn a good Bro (Make him your insider if you want to take over or destroy the cult) and add better lines instead of a shallow edgy wannabe.
>Make the temple a real temple (instead of a whorehouse)
>etc.
 

Avakao

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A good way to fix this dumpster fire:
>Rewrite it entirely
>Gather all assets and enhance it to take 2 routes: Prude (slow spiral) or Slut (corrupt)
>Make Caith a real priest (She wants to spread love? OK, but she's a wreck and has a literal faith crisis)
>Reduce the futa up to 70% (You can make them, dedick them or fuck-it all Ralph) to make room for better NPC body mod
>Make a route of Solo Doom Slayer (Uber difficult but doable)
>Make corruption a way to deviate from your original goal and make it progressive (Frog boil Reference)
>Capitalize corruption (Can get Skills and perks based on how deep you are)
>Corruption doesn't go over time
>Cait can"cleanse" you (But she hate it because it implies a lot of degrading sex that can corrupt her too in a low chance by making her a total sub)
>Develop a manageable centaur village (Too shallow tbh), and making it a Village. Not a forgotten map.
>Making the cult more interactive (Join as covert or not, taking it over or destroy it entirely)
>TF affects everyone and can be administered to anyone
>Companions has preferences
>You can romance any companion
>The cat harem can be modified (enhance fertility, dick, accelerate pregnancies or make them all milky)
>The wayfort is your HQ not the tavern (Garth makes you move for overcrowding)
>The foxhole has a better writing (Tone down Kirito to acceptable levels, even the MF can join with you to "learn the blade"/making a name for himself while you protect the colonies)
>Kiyoko has more depth and she's more open when you join "ze souless foxes"
>Kinu has brains instead blind obedience (Make a side to find her ninja way: Return as head of the Otomo, join you You're her daddy anyways, or find another place to stablish a new den)
>Make an interlude where Kiyo asks you to select a "Capable Partner" for Kinu (incompatible with the ninja way and timed)
>Being a fox makes you a vampire (With perks too)
>Winter city gets more depth (Yes, the Jotun issue must be dealt with)
>Make brienne less sub and more independent (Is nice a devoted and submissive gf, but goddamn. Is tiring that every day needs a good plow ffs)
>Demons are better than just corruption by fucking (Make even a demon companion, I REJECT MY DAEMONHOOD KAS-TARO!!!!)
>Dedick, Grow a spine or kill Rin (in minecraft...Being honest, Ryn is nearly useless if not for her healer set, and being a "shemale with issues" that cannot grow [unless you know... Fuck the issues away]). Also make a 4th option when you finish the Winter City: Corrupt her (if you have enough corruption and you are in Kas good side, also having a low res Ryn AKA fuckpet) you can get her out the cage and she can transform in either full woman or a real futa.
>Make Quinn a good Bro (Make him your insider if you want to take over or destroy the cult) and add better lines instead of a shallow edgy wannabe.
>Make the temple a real temple (instead of a whorehouse)
>etc.
So, basically, your idea is. Delete the actual game, make a new one.
 

JTakiyaa

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A good way to fix this dumpster fire:
>Rewrite it entirely
>Gather all assets and enhance it to take 2 routes: Prude (slow spiral) or Slut (corrupt)
>Make Caith a real priest (She wants to spread love? OK, but she's a wreck and has a literal faith crisis)
>Reduce the futa up to 70% (You can make them, dedick them or fuck-it all Ralph) to make room for better NPC body mod
>Make a route of Solo Doom Slayer (Uber difficult but doable)
>Make corruption a way to deviate from your original goal and make it progressive (Frog boil Reference)
>Capitalize corruption (Can get Skills and perks based on how deep you are)
>Corruption doesn't go over time
>Cait can"cleanse" you (But she hate it because it implies a lot of degrading sex that can corrupt her too in a low chance by making her a total sub)
>Develop a manageable centaur village (Too shallow tbh), and making it a Village. Not a forgotten map.
>Making the cult more interactive (Join as covert or not, taking it over or destroy it entirely)
>TF affects everyone and can be administered to anyone
>Companions has preferences
>You can romance any companion
>The cat harem can be modified (enhance fertility, dick, accelerate pregnancies or make them all milky)
>The wayfort is your HQ not the tavern (Garth makes you move for overcrowding)
>The foxhole has a better writing (Tone down Kirito to acceptable levels, even the MF can join with you to "learn the blade"/making a name for himself while you protect the colonies)
>Kiyoko has more depth and she's more open when you join "ze souless foxes"
>Kinu has brains instead blind obedience (Make a side to find her ninja way: Return as head of the Otomo, join you You're her daddy anyways, or find another place to stablish a new den)
>Make an interlude where Kiyo asks you to select a "Capable Partner" for Kinu (incompatible with the ninja way and timed)
>Being a fox makes you a vampire (With perks too)
>Winter city gets more depth (Yes, the Jotun issue must be dealt with)
>Make brienne less sub and more independent (Is nice a devoted and submissive gf, but goddamn. Is tiring that every day needs a good plow ffs)
>Demons are better than just corruption by fucking (Make even a demon companion, I REJECT MY DAEMONHOOD KAS-TARO!!!!)
>Dedick, Grow a spine or kill Rin (in minecraft...Being honest, Ryn is nearly useless if not for her healer set, and being a "shemale with issues" that cannot grow [unless you know... Fuck the issues away]). Also make a 4th option when you finish the Winter City: Corrupt her (if you have enough corruption and you are in Kas good side, also having a low res Ryn AKA fuckpet) you can get her out the cage and she can transform in either full woman or a real futa.
>Make Quinn a good Bro (Make him your insider if you want to take over or destroy the cult) and add better lines instead of a shallow edgy wannabe.
>Make the temple a real temple (instead of a whorehouse)
>etc.
Jesus christ this reads like a walkout protest demands. But good points so far. In addition, they should have more writers since Savin took the offer to also be a lead dev on TiTs. Like I get that they have this fear of people touching their creation and shit. But if you think about how much it adds into the content addition pace and reducing workload on writers that have to manage a fuckton of content struggling to meet the expectations of playerbase.

For example just focus on the main story for their OC and hire out one or two additional writers or fish them from their community forums to put on the planned additional. That way they can have a steady pace instead of jumbling around too much and keep hoping off from being burned out. Just make these new writers focus on their kind of character content that goes along with what the main creator of those OC has envisioned instead of dumping shit to the main writers and congesting more content. Stuff i would like to add on your proposal though...

Suggestion 1, Savin is a cuck. He likes Cuck stuff and focused more on Cait. Find a writer in the community with the same interest and ability to write it. Give him some part time offer and put them to work on additional content while he works on main. Then Wsan, I really don't know how he managed so much but he needs some support for the Khorminos content. Get someone to write the tile description so he can focus on the content before he gets burned out.

Suggestion 2, seriously get another coder and proofreader for fucks sake Savin. The ones you have obviously can't do it alone and aren't thorough enough. So many typos and bugs left unaddressed on the bug report forum.

Suggestion 3, try and learn basic business management or staff management. Its not that hard. Shit is a mess over there, not the worst mess but still you need to act like a dev. Consider wrangling some of your writers behaviour when it comes to the quality of their content unless you want to see your project get dragged in the mud.

Suggestion 4, Have some simple and repeatable quest from regular fetch quest to bounty hunting. More armor and weapons that can only be gained from such quest. Might help players get busy while the content draught is going. And has a replayability factor to this game instead of having ur players only rely on fast travels since combat is seen as a chore and not fun.
 

King_Ogre

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Jesus christ this reads like a walkout protest demands. But good points so far. In addition, they should have more writers since Savin took the offer to also be a lead dev on TiTs. Like I get that they have this fear of people touching their creation and shit. But if you think about how much it adds into the content addition pace and reducing workload on writers that have to manage a fuckton of content struggling to meet the expectations of playerbase.

For example just focus on the main story for their OC and hire out one or two additional writers or fish them from their community forums to put on the planned additional. That way they can have a steady pace instead of jumbling around too much and keep hoping off from being burned out. Just make these new writers focus on their kind of character content that goes along with what the main creator of those OC has envisioned instead of dumping shit to the main writers and congesting more content. Stuff i would like to add on your proposal though...

Suggestion 1, Savin is a cuck. He likes Cuck stuff and focused more on Cait. Find a writer in the community with the same interest and ability to write it. Give him some part time offer and put them to work on additional content while he works on main. Then Wsan, I really don't know how he managed so much but he needs some support for the Khorminos content. Get someone to write the tile description so he can focus on the content before he gets burned out.

Suggestion 2, seriously get another coder and proofreader for fucks sake Savin. The ones you have obviously can't do it alone and aren't thorough enough. So many typos and bugs left unaddressed on the bug report forum.

Suggestion 3, try and learn basic business management or staff management. Its not that hard. Shit is a mess over there, not the worst mess but still you need to act like a dev. Consider wrangling some of your writers behaviour when it comes to the quality of their content unless you want to see your project get dragged in the mud.

Suggestion 4, Have some simple and repeatable quest from regular fetch quest to bounty hunting. More armor and weapons that can only be gained from such quest. Might help players get busy while the content draught is going. And has a replayability factor to this game instead of having ur players only rely on fast travels since combat is seen as a chore and not fun.
Is basically that many players has suggested, but we know how Savin is. And many of the lead writers. all that list is not just me, but many veterans of the game.

So, basically, your idea is. Delete the actual game, make a new one.
In essence? Yes. The plot strayed too further from being a game to "my kink repertory" and "smut with any sense but my fetsh fantasies"
 

WazaQQXOXO

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Great suggestions.
Savin ain't gonna listen to any of the suggestions. This fella is making a fuck-ton amount of cash by providing drops of content to his subscribers, whom are satisfied considering Savin's Patreon revenue.

I am dumbfounded by their claim that the coders can not keep up with the backlog. Little to nothing of importance has been implemented in-game in the last ten months (KM outskirts is joke, and do not get me started on the combat mechanics). Someone would expect that coding encounters should be trivial work considering the game has been available for more than two years.
 

ankhtar

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I don't get why they're so adamant about shielding their OCs from the evil internet. You can only take that so far before a disgruntled modder jumps in and wrecks your shit to suit the needs/kinks of the masses. Though I imagine at this point, modders will probably just do it out of spite, if nothing else, just to spite Savin's spiteful cucking in an endless spite war that's probably going to end with the game being abandoned at some point next year.

The way they lose their shit over the mere thought of someone fiddling with any of their characters reminds me of a child throwing a fit over they favorite toy being taken away.
 

Konstantinus

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I don't get why they're so adamant about shielding their OCs from the evil internet. You can only take that so far before a disgruntled modder jumps in and wrecks your shit to suit the needs/kinks of the masses. Though I imagine at this point, modders will probably just do it out of spite, if nothing else, just to spite Savin's spiteful cucking in an endless spite war that's probably going to end with the game being abandoned at some point next year.

The way they lose their shit over the mere thought of someone fiddling with any of their characters reminds me of a child throwing a fit over they favorite toy being taken away.
I agree. Reminds me of Shadowrun. The only way to have controll over your character is not to publish him. Once he is online you are out of sole controle.
 
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destroyerofassholes

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I don't get why they're so adamant about shielding their OCs from the evil internet. You can only take that so far before a disgruntled modder jumps in and wrecks your shit to suit the needs/kinks of the masses. Though I imagine at this point, modders will probably just do it out of spite, if nothing else, just to spite Savin's spiteful cucking in an endless spite war that's probably going to end with the game being abandoned at some point next year.

The way they lose their shit over the mere thought of someone fiddling with any of their characters reminds me of a child throwing a fit over they favorite toy being taken away.
I dunno, man. I don't write fiction but I can empathize with their attachment to characters they wrote.
 

King_Ogre

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I dunno, man. I don't write fiction but I can empathize with their attachment to characters they wrote.
I have written. Yet I can't empathize with them. Why? Because you write for your audience, not for yourself. Every character created needs to fulfill a fixed narrative to be interesting. But, with the interaction added that character stops being fixed and can be altered. For me a game character (even a smut one) has the value of fresh meat. Meat that is going to be used, abused and discarded if the player has the feeling to do so. So why covet it to the point to have autistic rantings on a forum because a player/audience has an idea to do "x" or "y" to it if it enhances the narrative? A character (OC or not) is designed to be a means to an end, not to get the spotlight. All of it because the spotlight is for you (the player).
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Even my MC's are flexible because I know the difference of a creation over a living being.
 
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