JTakiyaa

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oh and also please,lower your expectations
because the way i see it you guys want this game to:

1.Have a fucking complex combat system like a Final Fantasy/Divinity series
2.Super duper beautiful writing like a Witcher 3/Fallout new vegas
3.Harem Romance where you can fuck anything that walk but not for your companion/lover(Rance,Persona 3,4,5)
4.Detailed character customization where you can change 1 inch of your skin acne(The sims)
i could go on but i cant put my thought into writing because i dont speak america
I personally am into no.3 myself. The gameplay can stay.

Actually I think if the game goes with the similar kind of storytelling, corruption mechanic, romance, expanded base building from Revamped and keeping the writing style with combat from this one. It would have been a way simpler and better game than what i played now.
 

Konstantinus

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About Gameplay the only difference I would make is either give us a reason why we can only take two with us or stop the arbitrating limitation.
Why do I need to make up reasons why I am not having everyone with me?
I mean we could theorethically say we do not take Arona. Brienne and Kiyoko with us because of pregnancy, Etheryn could later needed to reign her kingdom, for Azyrran you could say she need to protect her Queen while Atugia her Baroness but for Malecompanions there no excuse. So there is no lore reason why should not be able to take Quint, Berwyn and Cait together and this arbirtrary limit should not exist.
In CoC and partially in TiTS there is at least the excuse that all of them have their own live and/or need to guard the portal but here there are more characters who have nothing better to do so you should be able to take them on your adventure without problems than there are free places.
 

throbzombie

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oh and also please,lower your expectations
because the way i see it you guys want this game to:

1.Have a fucking complex combat system like a Final Fantasy/Divinity series
2.Super duper beautiful writing like a Witcher 3/Fallout new vegas
3.Harem Romance where you can fuck anything that walk but not for your companion/lover(Rance,Persona 3,4,5)
4.Detailed character customization where you can change 1 inch of your skin acne(The sims)
i could go on but i cant put my thought into writing because i dont speak america
1. I think the problem that people have with the combat system it's imbalanced, not that it's too simple. Groups of high level enemies are practically GG, even at max level, and you're double fucked if you don't have the Kum Krusted Kitty in your party because she's the only white mage companion in the game.

2. I take the writing seriously because that's clearly what the writers want, otherwise they wouldn't write so damn much. I'm not asking for a miracle here, just competency. Just something to justify their egotism. Kasyrra isn't my favorite character because I think she's hot (I don't; that stonking telephone pole of hers really turns me off), but because she has layers, and goals, and motivations beyond "I wanna take over the world with sex muahahahaha". And she's proactive about it; she didn't sit there like a sad sack waiting for a hero to come along and make everything okay.

I'm not going to get too deep into it, but to put it simply, she feels like a person, amidst a cast of department store mannequins. And I'm about to commit thread heresy here, but I think Savin is actually a decent writer. Seriously, when he's not spite writing or doing anything concerning Cait, his stuff is actually engaging, even fun. He's still a monumental douchebag who I wish would die in a fire, but as a writer, yeah, he'd not bad.

3. Yeah, that'd be nice. I prefer a slave harem, but a village of wives would also be pretty kickass.

4. No, that'd be awful. As we've seen from the likes of LT, having a massively detailed customization system is a detriment to the game. It slows down development, and the bigger it gets, the less it contributes to the game. It also has the effect of overloading the player with information, so less is more, I say. If we get no more TFs for the rest of development, I'll be happy as a clam.
 
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King_Ogre

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the author for D.Gray-Man hates her fans so much that she produces new chapters at a glacial pace to spite them.
AoT had the same shit.
1.Have a fucking complex combat system like a Final Fantasy/Divinity series
2.Super duper beautiful writing like a Witcher 3/Fallout new vegas
3.Harem Romance where you can fuck anything that walk but not for your companion/lover(Rance,Persona 3,4,5)
4.Detailed character customization where you can change 1 inch of your skin acne(The sims)
1.- Is not complex. Is stupidly simple... (t. Game tester)
2.- Writing on a porn game with lore needs to be well written, so. Yes it needs suer-duper beautiful writting
3.- That's the point bucko. Is a porn game. And if you add corruption and body modification (TF) it makes it excellent.
4.- Check TiTS and come back with what you found.
1. I think the problem that people have with the combat system it's imbalanced, not that it's too simple. Groups of high level enemies are practically GG, even at max level, and you're double fucked if you don't have the Kum Krusted Kitty in your party because she's the only white mage companion in the game.

2. I take the writing seriously because that's clearly what the writers want, otherwise they wouldn't write so damn much. I'm not asking for a miracle here, just competency. Just something to justify their egotism. Kasyrra isn't my favorite character because I think she's hot (I don't; that stonking telephone pole of hers really turns me off), but because she has layers, and goals, and motivations beyond "I wanna take over the world with sex muahahahaha". And she's proactive about it; she didn't sit there like a sad sack waiting for a hero to come along and make everything okay.

I'm not going to get too deep into it, but to put it simply, she feels like a person, amidst a cast of department store mannequins. And I'm about to commit thread heresy here, but I think Savin is actually a decent writer. Seriously, when he's not spite writing or doing anything concerning Cait, his stuff is actually engaging, even fun. He's still a monumental douchebag who I wish would die in a fire, but as a writer, yeah, he'd not bad.

3. Yeah, that'd be nice. I prefer a slave harem, but a village of wives would also be pretty kickass.

4. No, that's be awful. As we've seen from the likes of LT, having a massively detailed customization system is a detriment to the game. It slows down development, and the bigger it gets, the less it contributes to the game. It also has the effect of overloading the player with information, so less is more, I say. If we get no more TFs for the rest of development, I'll be happy as a clam.
Totally agree. With those points, the slave village is totally hot ngl.


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And about making a game with a certain level of complexity is to make the porn more rewarding. But if you like smut and just to jerk of. Go better with a nukige or a porn video. Is the same.
 

NinjaNamedBob

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oh and also please,lower your expectations
because the way i see it you guys want this game to:
I hate that shitty "it's not a AAA game, guys! Stop measuring it to that standard!" argument. How about stop apologizing for bad design? I've seen some indie content that makes some AAA games look like unmitigated disasters.


1.Have a fucking complex combat system like a Final Fantasy/Divinity series
Final Fantasy doesn't have a complex combat system. Turn-based combat that you can exploit and/or grind against isn't hard to do, either. I mean, most other indie devs have figured it out. We're asking for a competent combat system, which, again, is not that difficult.

2.Super duper beautiful writing like a Witcher 3/Fallout new vegas
New Vegas didn't have beautiful writing. It was even clunky at times. What it had was narrative consistency which, again, shouldn't be hard. It also had an amazing quest system. Honestly, watch hbomberguy's video on New Vegas. He could tell you what it did right as opposed to FO3.

3.Harem Romance where you can fuck anything that walk but not for your companion/lover(Rance,Persona 3,4,5)
This comes down to the lead dev having a fetish that nobody asked for, forcing it down the player's throat, and then the rest of the writing staff being so horribly inconsistent when it comes to how the PC reacts to shit while also removing our autonomy and, in some cases, having Cait gaslight us for not wanting to fuck something. They even had Brint and a couple others (afaik) join in the "you don't want to fuck this arrogant piece of shit? How dare you!" crusade. It's not a lack of fuckable waifus. It's that we're expected to want to fuck every waifu. I personally don't find futa orcs that appealing. As a player, I shouldn't feel shamed for not wanting to fuck futa orcs.

For a team who tosses their shit over being kink-shamed, Savin and co sure are lacking in self-awareness.

4.Detailed character customization where you can change 1 inch of your skin acne(The sims)
i could go on but i cant put my thought into writing because i dont speak america
I... the fuck did you get this one from? I'm curious where you got this up from reading through the most recently replies. Nobody has inferred that this is the case.

AoT had the same shit.
Really? Is this the age of the entitled content creator, who wishes for their works to remain pure and untouched by us, the dirty masses?

1.- Is not complex. Is stupidly simple... (t. Game tester)
Asking your community to beta test updates? Hogwash! Now, ignore the devs on f95 who do just that.

2.- Writing on a porn game with lore needs to be well written, so. Yes it needs suer-duper beautiful writting
I would argue that it does and doesn't. Make the prose for lore stuff (like what goes directly into an archive, or is explicitly state via dialogue) legible and simple. If you want to wax poetic about how hard you fucked Brint in the butt, knock yourself out. I mean, look at Mass Effect. The dialogue was clunky af at times and my Shepard tended towards a bipolar perspective on justice. The actual lore content, though, was fairly broad and simple. It's not that it is difficult to do both, but requires both a love for what you're writing, and the time to do so.

3.- That's the point bucko. Is a porn game. And if you add corruption and body modification (TF) it makes it excellent.
Agree to disagree. That said, the issue is, as I said, more related to the fact that we're basically shamed into not liking something, and then expressing that issue or wanting something more from the dev is basically met with stonewalling.

4.- Check TiTS and come back with what you found.
Fuck, he could go caveman and check out the original CoC. Not as thorough, but it did make a pretty damned strong effort to describe everything you did to yourself in a playthrough.


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And about making a game with a certain level of complexity is to make the porn more rewarding. But if you like smut and just to jerk of. Go better with a nukige or a porn video. Is the same.
This, although I would argue on the merits of complexity vs content. Personally, I'm a fan of GoR and loss scenes. I don't mind victory boning (bonus points if it can lead to a bad end), but find it an absolute chore to fight 300 generic enemies to impress the town bicycle just so I can get maybe 1-5 cg's of some generic hentai protag boning her. You also lose points if my efforts don't even net a gallery in the endgame, so I have to keep multiple saves and perform multiple runs just to get everything, all while fighting the same 300+ generic enemies per scene. Fuck that.
 
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IndOnesia

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I hate that shitty "it's not a AAA game, guys! Stop measuring it to that standard!" argument. How about stop apologizing for bad design? I've seen some indie content that makes some AAA games look like unmitigated disasters.




Final Fantasy doesn't have a complex combat system. Turn-based combat that you can exploit and/or grind against isn't hard to do, either. I mean, most other indie devs have figured it out. We're asking for a competent combat system, which, again, is not that difficult.



New Vegas didn't have beautiful writing. It was even clunky at times. What it had was narrative consistency which, again, shouldn't be hard. It also had an amazing quest system. Honestly, watch hbomberguy's video on New Vegas. He could tell you what it did right as opposed to FO3.



This comes down to the lead dev having a fetish that nobody asked for, forcing it down the player's throat, and then the rest of the writing staff being so horribly inconsistent when it comes to how the PC reacts to shit while also removing our autonomy and, in some cases, having Cait gaslight us for not wanting to fuck something. They even had Brint and a couple others (afaik) join in the "you don't want to fuck this arrogant piece of shit? How dare you!" crusade. It's not a lack of fuckable waifus. It's that we're expected to want to fuck every waifu. I personally don't find futa orcs that appealing. As a player, I shouldn't feel shamed for not wanting to fuck futa orcs.

For a team who tosses their shit over being kink-shamed, Savin and co sure are lacking in self-awareness.



I... the fuck did you get this one from? I'm curious where you got this up from reading through the most recently replies. Nobody has inferred that this is the case.



Really? Is this the age of the entitled content creator, who wishes for their works to remain pure and untouched by us, the dirty masses?



Asking your community to beta test updates? Hogwash! Now, ignore the devs on f95 who do just that.



I would argue that it does and doesn't. Make the prose for lore stuff (like what goes directly into an archive, or is explicitly state via dialogue) legible and simple. If you want to wax poetic about how hard you fucked Brint in the butt, knock yourself out. I mean, look at Mass Effect. The dialogue was clunky af at times and my Shepard tended towards a bipolar perspective on justice. The actual lore content, though, was fairly broad and simple. It's not that it is difficult to do both, but requires both a love for what you're writing, and the time to do so.



Agree to disagree. That said, the issue is, as I said, more related to the fact that we're basically shamed into not liking something, and then expressing that issue or wanting something more from the dev is basically met with stonewalling.



Fuck, he could go caveman and check out the original CoC. Not as thorough, but it did make a pretty damned strong effort to describe everything you did to yourself in a playthrough.


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This, although I would argue on the merits of complexity vs content. Personally, I'm a fan of GoR and loss scenes. I don't mind victory boning (bonus points if it can lead to a bad end), but find it an absolute chore to fight 300 generic enemies to impress the town bicycle just so I can get maybe 1-5 cg's of some generic hentai protag boning her. You also lose points if my efforts don't even net a gallery in the endgame, so I have to keep multiple saves and perform multiple runs just to get everything, all while fighting the same 300+ generic enemies per scene. Fuck that.
wow buddy take a deep breath i think new vegas is good (clunky in game mechanic not story) you think new vegas is bad etc,bla bla bla
you have your opinion i have my opinion
i just sharing some advice because you and almost everyone in here acting like a person with high blood pressure

EDIT:And if community touching the original content from original creator it will come become"inconsistent writing''(unless its based from the original content:Fanfic,Mod etc
 
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wow buddy take a deep breath i think new vegas is good (clunky in game mechanic not story) you think new vegas is bad etc,bla bla bla
you have your opinion i have my opinion
i just sharing some advice because you and almost everyone in here acting like a person with high blood pressure

EDIT:And if community touching the original content from original creator it will come become"inconsistent writing''(unless its based from the original content:Fanfic,Mod etc
I've actually seen more cohesion from the mod group than I have Savin's team. They got like entire charts and guidelines or some shit, Savin just lets his team run amok because he knows he has no real competition.
 
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I've actually seen more cohesion from the mod group than I have Savin's team. They got like entire charts and guidelines or some shit, Savin just lets his team run amok because he knows he has no real competition.
Too bad the mod focuses on dumb stuff like permanent stat boosts and a level cap increase of 20; Who the fuck needs to be level 20?

I don't recall correctly, but I felt like Quin was too delicate in the butt scene they wrote, so I don't expect quality from them either.
 

Daddums

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Too bad the mod focuses on dumb stuff like permanent stat boosts and a level cap increase of 20; Who the fuck needs to be level 20?

I don't recall correctly, but I felt like Quin was too delicate in the butt scene they wrote, so I don't expect quality from them either.
Ah, but Savin's cheese is powdery and blows with the wind.

The consistency of this stinky cheese is much more held together. It crumbles together and not apart.
 

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Too bad the mod focuses on dumb stuff like permanent stat boosts and a level cap increase of 20; Who the fuck needs to be level 20?

I don't recall correctly, but I felt like Quin was too delicate in the butt scene they wrote, so I don't expect quality from them either.
All of that reeks of hugbox refugee
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All of that reeks of hugbox refugee
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I say what I think is truth, and am not going to let personal dislike over content in this game to change my judgement on that shit mod. Although now that I'm being less subtle in my belief that the mod is asinine I'm curious to see if my post will get deleted for being so mean and hurtful to poor modders.
 

RenH

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I say what I think is truth, and am not going to let personal dislike over content in this game to change my judgement on that shit mod. Although now that I'm being less subtle in my belief that the mod is asinine I'm curious to see if my post will get deleted for being so mean and hurtful to poor modders.
Eh, I'll give an E for Effort if you think something like that's going to be deleted. Gotta stir up the pot more and crank up the toxicity. Then you might start up a heated train of posts or two before the mods finally take notice.
 
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