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namelessone22

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I liked the new quest as well, was pretty decent. I really enjoyed the character development for Calise, and getting to intereact with her more. Too bad none of her interactions after the quest change at all, despite the fact the quest makes it seem like they really should have. Seems like adding this quest should have been held off until they could have added more with her as well, but obviously it's the only piece of actual content we got with this most recent update, so they rushed it.

As far as the Calise being Kasyrra argument goes, it seems a little too obvious right now, so I'm still not sure which side of the argument I land on. Her backstory, her attitude depending on Kas relationship, and the busts in the game files are pretty damning evidence, but again it seems a little too obvious and could definitely be a red herring. I'm leaning towards it being true, especially due to the new interactions in the quest and the way she acts, but would still be happy if it isn't. Because if she isn't that just means we get another decent character, also with a potential corruption path due to the busts.

But with the snail's pace the game as come to, we likely won't find out the truth for a while.
Do I have to do spoiler tags for theories?

-Anyway, when you ask Kassyrra about her past before she became a demon, it is almost identical to what Calise says for hers. (she was even a paladin/knight from memory.)
-You can also ask Kas to show you what she looked like before becoming a demon, but she says she'll leave it as a suprise for later (?)
-Talking to Kas in her dream palace thingy, you can discuss her redeeming herself eventually, this may be part of it?

**(correct me if I'm wrong with any of this)**

She basically tells you that her objective is for you to end up with a very 'powerful/experienced soul' (which she needs),
but that it doesn't matter how you get it, as long as that's the end result.
ie; if she has to wage the whole 'demon invasion' crap for you to oppose & come out on top, she'll do that - but it's only the end result that she's actually interested in (doesn't really give a shit about the 'invasion succeeding').

You can talk to her about possibly redeeming herself - and with the bad blood between her & the Cult...

-I can't seem to get it with my current save, but if you go the romance route with Kas in her dream palace, supposedly if you talk to Calise after that, she has different dialogue (giving you the hint that it's Kas? - not sure)
*Could someone let me know what it is - screenshots for normal Calise talk & post-Kas Calise talk?*

-The Calise busts in the game files - there are variants with Kas' demon-eyes, & a futa with the eyes as well.
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** My take is that Calise is Kas in disguise - just less 'obviously' than before. (She still has all the soldiers around her and is trying to keep up the ruse).
Her playing as Calise could be simply her having fun working with you rather than against you for a change for shits & giggles, but I'm assuming that she (hopefully) may be taking to heart that she doesn't need to continue her 'invasion' to reach her goal for your soul :rolleyes: (fighting the Cult would probably do the same thing) (or she needs some artifact from the area)

* I don't think that she will, but if I understood the conversation with Kas & a certain deity in Kas' 'dream palace', she could (in theory) help you clean up the whole 'invasion' + Cult as the 'Paladin Calise' by your side & still achieve her end-goal.

- I also wouldn't be suprised if she has been busy corrupting the King & nobles in the palace, much like she did in Winter City (something that was mentioned made me consider the possibility, but can't remember where/what)

Starting to ramble here will wind up.

*also forgot spoiler tag - so intentionally left out what she wants your soul for - someone else can fill that in if anyone's interested?*

*** I haven't done Calise's quest yet, will edit after ***
 

Daddums

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Don't even need to do the quest, she makes it super obvious basically as soon as you can properly talk to her. Kinda lame they've stuck with the "secret" this long
They have nothing but sycophants in their forums, when you surround yourself with sycophants your quality of work suffers greatly. That's if they even care at this point, they're making so much money and nobody is demanding value. As much of a disappointment Agni turned out to be at least B actually engaged with people willing to challenge him on that bullshit.
 
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silentangel

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Calise's stats. Although she does use holy magic, she has a -100 resistance to it.

-100 holy resistance and her prefered partner would literally be Kas.
Its her. There is no way around that. Next question is how the flying hell is she using holy magic? Is Lumia in on this? Or does she just not vet her followers for some reason???
 
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-100 holy resistance and her prefered partner would literally be Kas.
Its her. There is no way around that. Next question is how the flying hell is she using holy magic? Is Lumia in on this? Or does she just not vet her followers for some reason???
Lumia doesn't have authority over who gets to use magic tho???
Didn't she get sucked through the portal at the Winter City? Maybe she needed Kas' help to get back and it didn't come free.
Lumia shows up to kill some eldritch thing that kasyrra accidentally summons IIRC. She's not trapped anywhere.
 
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Lumia shows up to kill some eldritch thing that kasyrra accidentally summons IIRC. She's not trapped anywhere.
Fairly sure lumia outright just says she doesn't give a shit about kas atm too, but that she can come kill her later on if she keeps being a retard.

Though holy magic not being actually tied to any gods is pretty lame, ngl. Same with the relevant god just not caring about a demon posing as their champion. Like the gods are dicks, but they at least seem to care about PR.
 
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Fairly sure lumia outright just says she doesn't give a shit about kas atm too, but that she can come kill her later on if she keeps being a retard.

Though holy magic not being actually tied to any gods is pretty lame, ngl. Same with the relevant god just not caring about a demon posing as their champion. Like the gods are dicks, but they at least seem to care about PR.
Well, the gods are just posers pretending to be the gods of this world as the real ones are missing and I think it has been stated they have interest in her knowledge or whatever.
 

Warphorror

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The thing with Calise being Kas in disguise would make her obsessing over a "ring that can mend soul" pretty stupid. Kas losing her soul as a demon and people in the past being wraith touched are 2 very differents things and the ring had an effect because the "God" was in fact an evolved wraith and could then counter their own species' effects.
Kas wanting kids and despising imps I can understand but that her plan to that is to regain her soul is the most good guy plan I can think of, like she's not a vilain that can seduce you (or that you want to make her your bitch) but some kind of non understood anti-hero.
Couldn't the dev make her plan more like a daemonculaba or something? An evil mean to reach her goals and let the player be source of an alternative plan if they want a "good ending"? Also then come the question of what happen to the mind of someone that lives for a long time without any empathy and moral compass, abusing others for their own contentement and then regaining them (if you consider the person was normal before being corrupted)?
Pretty sure the devs didn't think of any of that because that would make the daemons bad and time is better spend creating a racist species without having any of them being different from their stereotype because everybody knows that member of a country are all the same.
 

Basty96

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Whelp ladies and gentleman it seems we lost WSan to cuckshit too, His upcoming content is cuckshit, like giving Evelyn access to the cat harem and getting Orlaith to fuck Grainne
 

Skandranon

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Whelp ladies and gentleman it seems we lost WSan to cuckshit too, His upcoming content is cuckshit, like giving Evelyn access to the cat harem and getting Orlaith to fuck Grainne
Evelyn was literally always like that. You already can give her both Cait and Ryn to fuck as a gift.

And the dryads were already fucking each other too. Doireann owned Orlaith before and after you showed up, you just showed them some new stuff to play with.

Wsan always writes his futa doms fucking a bunch of people...like the caravan all calling themselves Mara's harem.

It's his fetish, always has been.
 
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Basty96

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Evelyn was literally always like that. You already can give her both Cait and Ryn to fuck as a gift.

And the dryads were already fucking each other too. Doireann owned Orlaith before and after you showed up, you just showed them some new stuff to play with.

Wsan always writes his futa doms fucking a bunch of people...like the caravan all calling themselves Mara's harem.

It's his fetish, always has been.
what does that have to do with Doireann?
well Grainne was a virgin until the PC came along and mentions somewhere in her dialogue she's head over hells for you (iirc at least) and the Harem Cats are completely yours and Evelyn fucking Cait isn't that much of a suprise because tbh that's to be expected of Cait to just open her legs for anyone who's willing
 
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