When I last checked, there is content for Male, Female and Herm Berwyn. But if they've changed thier mind since then, they serious can't tell what people want. I'm assuming they just havent had new art made for him in his regular form
Too bad Alypia doesn't know about this place though. I think she'd get a much nicer reception than the salt miners and she could use some views outside the shlong slobber fest of their forums.
Apparently, lots of people if you take this place into account. No accounting for taste, I guess...
But it's not all about that, it's a choice. You can end with regular Berry, futa Berry, or "Wynne" aka female Berwyn. And then there's a bunch of other stuff besides that.
The real world has/had literally all those things at a similar level of technology....except worse.
Eating peoples essence isn't really a huge deal....they specifically don't kill people, and it seems to be more of a minor inconvenience than anything.
The real world doesn't really apply, considering I was stating that her idea of a "perfect" world is like... hardly any different to what they already have. Just more pleasure than pain, honestly. The real world is a messed up place, we know. That doesn't make it good or acceptable.
And yeah sure, you're supposed to let the soulsuckers be because they promise they won't have too many kids to need to go to more drastic measures. Mind you, in CoC2 soul isn't you. Soul is battery, (pretty sure) Ki is you. They eat you, not the battery you run on. So really, worse than demons because you as an entity is being eaten. You just gonna let them chill out in good faith? Fuck no. Way too dangerous to be left alone.
Slavery is everywhere is any society in this time period, I don't see how it makes this world particularly corrupt.
And the child grooming thing is...well, nothing. Again, if we're comparing this to the real world? We would have those kids doing the same thing, except we didn't really do the "wait until 18" part. Heck, most of the excesses in this game, besides the glut of sex which nobody hugely minds, us sanitized compared to IRL history.
Guess I have to overtly say it. Do you really expect me to believe that those children aren't at all taught about the Sex God who wants them to do Sex Stuff? That these kids just chill at the Sex Temple doing Not Sex things? No way in hell. Also woopty doo, our world is messed up. Saying that it is like that here or was like that here does not make it not bad. Do you look at slavery or pedophilia and just think "Damn, it do be like that?" It's inherently wrong, and you know it. That's why in our world there's people actively opposing shit like that. In Savarra it's commonplace and accepted. Do not suggest that we just accept those things, people look at slavery and dislike it. People rebelled against it.
Kas wants a world where alraunes, corrupted bees, demons and goblin succubi are roaming the land. Kas wants a world where she doesn't stop at taking your essence, she drains your whole soul. In her world, kids won't be "groomed", because I doubt all the demons and whatnot will care about a kids age at all before they get started.
Like I said above your soul isn't you. It's basically a Duracell battery in their world. You lose your soul and you're the same just upon losing your soul:
"They strip out everything good and compassionate and empathetic in a person, leaving nothing but a hedonistic husk that's obsessed with its own selfish pleasure. Addiction, sexual self-gratification, and domination without compassion."
Which again does not sound too far off what is already happening. Easiest example is the entirety of the Undermountain... oh and half of your companions with the exception of Brint/Brienne (maybe), Kiyoko, Atugia, Ryn, and Azzyran.
Most demon types are typically adults in less than days, so there'd be no chance to groom. Also highly doubt a souled-up Kasyrra would be down to corrupt her children. Seems like it would be a really, really dumb, contrived reason to show that she's evil.
Literally everything Kas has done is a worse version of stuff already going on. And that's not counting the breeding experiments, the cult (which she doesn't directly control but is certainly the cause of), what she did to the Winter City (they didn't dwell on this, but the entire government and royal family of WC is dead now), or the fact that she's doing experiments that are ripping open the fabric of reality and letting in extra dimensional soul stealing monsters, which if Lumia hadn't been around for would have probably completely ended the Frost Marches and probably the world right there....
Besides the loads of casual sex, the world says Kass is pretty much just normal feudal society plus magic. There's really no comparison, Kas us going to burn the whole thing down.
You're ignoring the whole Wraith thing, this plane had no problem in burning itself down when they themselves opened up portals and created such a shit world to begin with. Also, if it wasn't her with the cult it'd be some other demon given that it's just a mirror of CoC1's Ignam Elders.
Differing opinion on worse, if I'm stuck a slave I'd like to at least enjoy it. And speaking of CoC1, you know what made the pure route worth it? Good people to stand beside. Whether the lost mouse village to avenge or Tel'Adre to protect, you had good people. Sure Tel'Adre also had a lot of casual sex, but that was because after decades of being hidden away they had to be more accepting. The people in Savarra are not good and pointing to our own dirty past and present do not make them better. In my eyes, it makes them worse. Not only do they have magic, but they have a writer to make them better and they're still bad people. Feudal societies didn't have magic to rely on, Savarrans do. What is their excuse for slavery?
Dude I hope they don't just ship him off on a bus. Such a wasted character to be around for so long then "k bye I'm joining the mercenaries and leaving, it builds character, I know a lone elf almost killed me but I can handle open warfare"
Well Etheryn would be number one for sure, because I think it would actually make sense in character, and not just be about mass-appeal for us cishet guys.
But even as far as de-dicking for pandering's sake goes, I'd prefer e.g. Kasyrra, Lyla, Meira, the redhead manticore girl, etc., without dicks.
If we're talking specifically feminizing male characters, I'd rather they do it to one of the more annoying ones like Nakano, Takahiro, or Quintillus. That might actually redeem them for me lol.
Well Etheryn would be number one for sure, because I think it would actually make sense in character, and not just be about mass-appeal for us cishet guys.
But even as far as de-dicking for pandering's sake goes, I'd prefer e.g. Kasyrra, Lyla, Meira, the redhead manticore girl, etc., without dicks.
If we're talking specifically feminizing male characters, I'd rather they do it to one of the more annoying ones like Nakano, Takahiro, or Quintillus. That might actually redeem them for me lol.
Etheryn would make a lot of sense but she's been caught up in irl politics and multiple writers, she can love the mc any gender and is obsessed with continuing the royal bloodline, but currently long term you're forced to grow a vagoo or let her impreg elthara or nothing.
Dude I hope they don't just ship him off on a bus. Such a wasted character to be around for so long then "k bye I'm joining the mercenaries and leaving, it builds character, I know a lone elf almost killed me but I can handle open warfare"
Well Etheryn would be number one for sure, because I think it would actually make sense in character, and not just be about mass-appeal for us cishet guys.
But even as far as de-dicking for pandering's sake goes, I'd prefer e.g. Kasyrra, Lyla, Meira, the redhead manticore girl, etc., without dicks.
If we're talking specifically feminizing male characters, I'd rather they do it to one of the more annoying ones like Nakano, Takahiro, or Quintillus. That might actually redeem them for me lol.
Hard agree with Etheryn, but not meant to be I guess. It only didn't happen because Alypia took over and wanted him to give her FemPC the schlong, she has so much commissioned work of Ryn giving her the schlong. No judgement, just I see why Ryn does not have a female path. Either way for Ryn is fine for me personally, but I know what I read. He was definitely being set up for feminization.
I thought Meira could lose her dick? Am I miss remembering? Lyla I understand, although her scenes are pretty great and personally wouldn't have her any other way.
Kasyrra too, I get it. If you don't like being with Biggus Dickus then it's hard to do a corrupt route. Although I will say that she's meant to represent the most common CoC1 player, a horse-dicked herm with big T&A. Which is a neat concept, but falls flat for our straight men and gay women. Love her the way she is, but as the main antagonist meant to woo the PC she should be able to be a little different for PCs of most sexualities.
A lot about the game makes little sense or seem like a afterthought. Devs don't want any sort of power fantasy for the MC, yet the basic plot is about your MC saving the world from a interdimensional futa demon. So we get the worst of both worlds, a unispired "save the world" plot but with a everyman MC who just happens to be there. Instead of fighting your way into civilization like CoC1 you start out with a comfortable bed & a few allies, one which joins you into combat right from the start. I genuinelly thought that was going to be a placeholder, just like the ugly zig zagging tile map, yet here we are. With TiTS the maps are neat and there is a way better sense of scale when exploring. Then there's the lack of corruption content when that's right on the title of the game. I prefer to do pure playthroughs but there's little fun when that's the default so there's no effort on my part.
She can magically tuck it away and make it disappear for a whole one scene, but IDK maybe I'm too old-fashioned, but I like my women with no dick, not just sometimes not dick.
Kas is THE big villain spreading corruption and demons across the land. Causing problems or making them worse in centaur village, elf town, mino city.
I'm more confused why I'm supposed to like her.
kas: i care and love you and i'm doing this to be free
mc: but what about the lives you ruined?
kas: don't worry about them, their not you
[not a quote]
I feel like, as with most of the problems with this incredibly bipolar game, a half-talented writer would have already put in the background details necessary to actually characterise Kas as sympathetic.
Maybe have her be intelligent and just about empathetic enough to recognise that what she's compelled to do is not truly what she's after but at the same time make her as much a slave to her emotions and raw desires as any other demon. Could then also give her a good reason to hate the Imps as much as she does, cos the lovable bundles of pent-up Id are constant reminders of her own overpowering libido and steady loss of self to the same urges.
As it is the sole reason I like her (much like Brienne and Kiyoko) is because she actually feels like an attempt, no matter how piss-poor, at writing an actual fucking person into this dumb self-insert-packed mess of a game.
The real world doesn't really apply, considering I was stating that her idea of a "perfect" world is like... hardly any different to what they already have. Just more pleasure than pain, honestly. The real world is a messed up place, we know. That doesn't make it good or acceptable.
Getting to her ideal world involves a lot of death, murder, human experimentation, probably war....it's not just about the end goal.
And saying the only difference is more pleasure than pain? Nah. Taking someone's soul is basically brainwashing, it's turning someone into another person - which arguably, kills the old person. On a world wide scale thats....pretty horrific.
Guess I have to overtly say it. Do you really expect me to believe that those children aren't at all taught about the Sex God who wants them to do Sex Stuff? That these kids just chill at the Sex Temple doing Not Sex things?
Suspension of disbelief.
I have 200+ kids in Hawkethorne in what's basically a really nice shed around the back of the bar, being apparently raised by a single person. Some stuff just takes a logical leap.
woopty doo, our world is messed up. Saying that it is like that here or was like that here does not make it not bad. Do you look at slavery or pedophilia and just think "Damn, it do be like that?"
its that its not SO bad that the entire world is conpletely iredeemable and the hellhole Kas is gonna make it is somehow isn't worse.
I compare it to the real world because...the real world had all that, and worse, and got (is getting?) better.
There will be no getting better if Kas takes over, period.
Most demon types are typically adults in less than days, so there'd be no chance to groom. Also highly doubt a souled-up Kasyrra would be down to corrupt her children. Seems like it would be a really, really dumb, contrived reason to show that she's evil.
What happens to all the kids that exist in the world when Kass takes over the whole thing?
You're ignoring the whole Wraith thing, this plane had no problem in burning itself down when they themselves opened up portals and created such a shit world to begin with. Also, if it wasn't her with the cult it'd be some other demon given that it's just a mirror of CoC1's Ignam Elders.
I'm not ignoring it, just don't see how that matters. It almost happening previously doesn't mean Kass doing it again is somehow justified.
The people in Savarra are not good and pointing to our own dirty past and present do not make them better. In my eyes, it makes them worse. Not only do they have magic, but they have a writer to make them better and they're still bad people. Feudal societies didn't have magic to rely on, Savarrans do. What is their excuse for slavery?
Eh, I disagree. The people of Savarra aren't any worse than most other fictional societies of their time period, or the real society we have to compare it to. People are a product of their time. I certainly don't think everyone prior to a hundred years ago was a terrible person just because they had terrible beliefs, that's a rocky road to go down.
I feel like, as with most of the problems with this incredibly bipolar game, a half-talented writer would have already put in the background details necessary to actually characterise Kas as sympathetic.
Maybe have her be intelligent and just about empathetic enough to recognise that what she's compelled to do is not truly what she's after but at the same time make her as much a slave to her emotions and raw desires as any other demon. Could then also give her a good reason to hate the Imps as much as she does, cos the lovable bundles of pent-up Id are constant reminders of her own overpowering libido and steady loss of self to the same urges.
As it is the sole reason I like her (much like Brienne and Kiyoko) is because she actually feels like an attempt, no matter how piss-poor, at writing an actual fucking person into this dumb self-insert-packed mess of a game.
Imo theyve made her sympathetic, but they never seem to recognize her evil actions, so it's the opposite problem. There's plenty of scenes everywhere of her wanting a child and it wanting to be with the mc, of having a deep hatred for imps being her only "children" and I believe mentioning when she first had them they also assaulted her, of her backstory that was (fairly recently) added in her little side area, but no matter what she does she gets away Scott free and your character interacting with her causes mild inconveniences instead of you having to fight the world to be with her or having to lose relationships because they hate her but you love her etc. As its currently going they want her to be a ""bad guy"" that opens a rift that was such a big deal a god had to step in, but then that's forgotten, gets her goal, turns into a human, happy ever after. Compare that to gweyr lol, seriously. She doesn't have to be a vlad the impaler but she needs to be a villain that does bad things, and there's hints of it in dialogue it's just not shown.
Actual death, characters being broken and turned into stuff like she shows you in the dreams, cait being a broken puppet existing only for you etc. There needs to be sacrifices for liking her and helping her, the kitsune can be handwaved lore wise until the great crusade, but it just doesn't make sense how she can fling your party who knows where, probably making them fly into trees or rocks, you bang her, then your party ignores it or goes "you tapping that ass? weird but whatevs". She's supposed to have come from figurative and literal hell, one of the bad ends implies she killed/devoured all the gods and is hollow and empty after spending so many years alone. All of that's in hidden corners.
She teases you about bending everyone you know to your will, removing their individuality, if anyone or thing gets in the way swinging a enchanted battle-axe at them, but then that's ignored and her content is just "uwu I made cookies ignore the basement ok" while cait bangs a random psycho horse but criticizes your choice of partner
I agree with most of your points about her but this one you've said before and I just want to point out that Lumia would've never stepped in if the cthulhu beast hadn't shown up. If I recall correctly, Kas wanted to open the portal to let her dragon experikids through, she had no idea the creature was there and was upset when she learned she'd lost most of her dragon hybrids to it. She herself would've died if Lumia hadn't stepped in (meaning this wasn't just Kas being evil and hoping to intentionally let this thing destroy the world). I'm pretty sure Lumia would have done like the rest so far and not have interfered if Kas's plan worked 100% and only her dragon hybrids came through. My point being, there's a lot of shit Kas has done intentionally that don't paint her in a good light. This particular one wasn't what she was aiming to do and she had no idea that thing would come through.
I'm pretty sure Savin does as well, the salt must flow after all.
Too bad Alypia doesn't know about this place though. I think she'd get a much nicer reception than the salt miners and she could use some views outside the shlong slobber fest of their forums.
Considering she gave us such gems as "variety is the death of depth", trying to retcon that Etheryn saying "Makes me feel like a real woman" just meant she wanted to be femme (instead of just saying the scene should've been written to say how femme and girly Etheryn likes being), etc I doubt it. She seems nice but I don't like when people come up with excuses instead of just saying - random example - "Hey, once more lore for Mallach's Temple was written we didn't realize the grooming implications, our bad. We'll fix to clarify."
Tobs wrote most of the Mallach Temple expansion so honestly I'm not surprised he inserted his usual drama into it (convos with Salwah are like O.O, bitch I thought this was a porn game!). I'm not adverse to deeper storylines but like it's been said, tonally it's out of place and it's always so hamfistedly done that it becomes laughable.
