Skandranon

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Except as I snipped from their doc, it's not brainwashing. I'll snip it again. "They strip out everything good and compassionate and empathetic in a person" that's not brainwashing. That's just removing the good in you. Which is already lacking in Savarra anyway.p
...yeah, thats 100% brainwashing. Stripping away part of what makes a person themselves is definitely brainwashing.

And it doesn't just "strip" stuff away...it also significantly affects your need and want for sex to the exclusion of most other things.

I think it's less suspension of disbelief in the case of the nursery and more "no one's going to have 200+ kids right? And if they did, they'd probably fund said nursery right?" The donations are there to "expand it" but they didn't want to force you to by saying something like "20 of your children are nestled in the daycare, while 180 are outside in the cold. Maybe you should consider donating some money to Gwyn so the nursery can be expanded?"
You're saying the same thing I'm saying. Some details, while logical extensions of things described in game, simply don't actually happen. This is true for all fiction, and it works just as well here as anywhere else.


At every point in human history there has been slavery, yes. But there has also always been abolitionists as well. Aristotle even records that some Greeks considered slavery "contrary to nature." Do we see abolitionists in Savarra? No?
...why would we see abolitionists in Savarra? Have we asked Ryn about her view on slaves? Garth? The horse village?

We've been to like....two major population centers, and a few small villages and camps. The idea that we'd get someone randomly espousing their views on a widespread societal norm is kinda wild.

Plenty of fictional works had slaves in them without comment on the practice. This is far from the first. Not sure why this specific one should have to remind us that slavery is a Very Bad Thing.

Uncertain as we don't know what is true or not with Kas. If we take it at face-value, redeemed or not if Kas gets to have kids then they will probably be cared for. If redeemed, no doubt. Motherhood is her driving goal, after all.
She cares about HER theoretical kids. A very small portion of the children in the world.

The idea that that will somehow extend to all kids everywhere getting cared for is a stretch.

When Mommy and Daddy turn into lustful sex demons, are they taking time out for fucking and sucking to be good parents? If you're worried about what may happen to the kids in the temple, what happens to kids when every adult they know is like the Painted Demons running around?


It's not justified, it's just they're no better than her morally. What matters is that she didn't open a portal to nowhere, allowing Wraiths in. She opened the portal with a destination in mind.
But those people aren't here. That was a specific group of people who are all dead now. Their morals are irrelevant.

Fiction is fiction and at the mercy of the writer. However, most often when you find something reprehensible in history (even if it's commonplace) you will find groups condemning it.
Maybe? That doesn't mean we're going to run into the one person that has forward thinking ideas on societal ills.

Should we also run into people that are against feudalism? Sexism? Racism? Etc, in every fantasy story that has those things? Seems tedious and, quite frankly, boring.

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Biostar

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Considering she gave us such gems as "variety is the death of depth", trying to retcon that Etheryn saying "Makes me feel like a real woman" just meant she wanted to be femme (instead of just saying the scene should've been written to say how femme and girly Etheryn likes being), etc I doubt it. She seems nice but I don't like when people come up with excuses instead of just saying - random example - "Hey, once more lore for Mallach's Temple was written we didn't realize the grooming implications, our bad. We'll fix to clarify."
She managed to preemptively ruin one of my favs so she's persona non grata to me as far as I care.
 

LandBeach

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Almost everyone sucks in the coc2 world. Also it's pretty hilarious how one god basically has brothels instead of churches. I also think the grooming church is annoying because it made someone like Cait. I don't hate her for having sex all the time like others do I just dislike her character.
 

Meblue

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Almost everyone sucks in the coc2 world. Also it's pretty hilarious how one god basically has brothels instead of churches. I also think the grooming church is annoying because it made someone like Cait. I don't hate her for having sex all the time like others do I just dislike her character.
To be honest, I'm fine with Cait, even with her fucking everything with a pulse. I mainly dislike the special treatment she gets from the Devs and her being shoved in your face, the fact that it's nigh impossible to ignore her if your not constantly skipping through all the text and automatically getting forced into her questline at the beginning of the game. If it weren't for all that, I think I would like her a lot more ironically - surprisingly it's easier to appreciate a character who you have a choice in indulging as opposed to a character your forced to include in your playthrough.
 

LandBeach

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To be honest, I'm fine with Cait, even with her fucking everything with a pulse. I mainly dislike the special treatment she gets from the Devs and her being shoved in your face, the fact that it's nigh impossible to ignore her if your not constantly skipping through all the text and automatically getting forced into her questline at the beginning of the game. If it weren't for all that, I think I would like her a lot more ironically - surprisingly it's easier to appreciate a character who you have a choice in indulging as opposed to a character your forced to include in your playthrough.
Yeah that's definitely what I dislike about her.
 
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I mainly dislike the special treatment she gets from the Devs and her being shoved in your face, the fact that it's nigh impossible to ignore her
Honestly, this part of the game feels slightly like an identity crisis.
On one hand, devs wanted to make companions who are more than just throwaway characters - they matter in the storyline and are practically vital characters. Something akin to a JRPG, where usually party members are introduces via main plot and are always technically with you, just not in the gameplay.

On the other, they also wanted to make companions optional and something you can miss. If you just follow the main storyline - you only encounter Cait, Brint (sort of? He is just there the second you step in the forest as in "Yo, heard you need a 3rd party member that deals damage") and Ryn. And only they seem to matter in the actual main plot.
Cait because she got you into this mess.
Brint because Khor'minos is very important.
Ryn because Winter City (I can't believe they actually used placeholder generic name and only now gave it actual name)

That's why this disconnect exist. Those party members have legitimate reasons to be a part of the main storyline, while others... have almost none? So naturally, they have more presence. While I (unfortunately) don't have any info on companion popularity poll (please give if it exists), I'd assume them having more presence (and being impossible to skip) results in them being more popular, so more scenes and content overall.
 
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Is there still no option to choose which dick you would use for which scene? I like to be a samurai that wields 2 different length blades that I can choose which to use or both at the same time if it allows it.
there a button in the settings menu
Off-topic but anybody find it weird Liulfr doesn't have art yet? They've been in the game for a while now, what's up with that?
Love that their disorganization is chalked up to being "complicated". Like, my brother in Christ just draw the bust. Don't keep making ones for Brienne and Kiyoko :FacePalm:
Edit: The Lureling has a bust and a silly-mode variant of its bust. Not even sex-able so doesn't even necessarily need a bust.
:WutFace::WaitWhat::HideThePain: Just another example of their incompetent disorganization,it would make sense to have an artist start making a bust for a new character you're add to the game wouldn't it;but no their logic is we'll have one drawn up later :FacePalm:
 
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nah Cait was very low on the popularity poll
Actually, do you have the poll? I remember people talking about Brienne beating out Kyoko as the reason for Tobs writing a scene where she is raped, but I've never seen the full poll. Was it posted here?
 

Daken9

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Only thing i remember about the poll is cow sitting comfortably on first place, then suddenly Kiyoko rising back up right as Brienne also got a bunch of random last places :KEK: Tobs and his goblerinos, dude.

But yeah, Cait was like 3rd or 4th place with a huge margin from 2nd. As far as i'm concerned she's not worse than Quint because she's at least fun to make of, and really my headcanon is that she's the team's moral punching bag only coming out of her room to get told to go back in (as opposed to Quint who's not even good for that and thus lies dead), but either way that she's virtually no one's first pick despite being the character with the most content in the game (and also with the most ties to the main story) tells me she's up there to begin with only because she has a lot of content, not the other way around.

If only Savin dropped the cat and started focusing on Kaz and Arona. Been doing that recentely and hopefully it isn't in preparaiton of some Cait guzzling at the hobo shelter or some shit.
 
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Only thing i remember about the poll is cow sitting comfortably on first place, then suddenly Kiyoko rising back up right as Brienne also got a bunch of random last places :KEK: Tobs and his goblerinos, dude.

But yeah, Cait was like 3rd or 4th place with a huge margin from 2nd. As far as i'm concerned she's not worse than Quint because she's at least fun to make of, and really my headcanon is that she's the team's moral punching bag only coming out of her room to get told to go back in (as opposed to Quint who's not even good for that and thus lies dead), but either way that she's virtually no one's first pick despite being the character with the most content in the game (and also with the most ties to the main story) tells me she's up there to begin with only because she has a lot of content, not the other way around.

If only Savin dropped the cat and started focusing on Kaz and Arona. Been doing that recentely and hopefully it isn't in preparaiton of some Cait guzzling at the hobo shelter or some shit.
Itd probably fall under "power fantasy" I guess but I wish orcs had content like, say, a quest to beat off a corrupted Beasty near their camp, or save some of their kids, help them get supplies and after some busywork like that, if you're a orc they label you "one of them" and if not you become a "honorary orc".

It wouldn't make a giant difference but I feel like there's room for orc tavern content, like instead of going in there and being roughed up or assaulted after becoming recognized, maybe they clap you on the shoulder and encounters become more consensual, you get the option for small talk and lore about the orc culture at the bar or can go up to the male or female warriors and go "wanna fack?" all orc like. Maybe have one off dialogue options for orc characters connected to them, maybe arona dom or sub expresses her pride, stuff like that.

Kitsune den could use that too but seems like no matter what you do for them, give to them, do for kiyoko or the other members, saving their scouting party, give them priceless artifacts, you're always poo unless you straight up literally sell your soul and are then gold lined poo. Save kiyoko from being forever alone and her children from an eternal prison by routinely letting her nom your soul, fighting through a whole den, refrain from killing any of them when they'd just straight up decapitate you given the chance, and get a audience with her god, well, you're still her barbarian ho and you should be thankful for that privilege. You have no more role in your daughters life and your blood (soul) transfusions are welcome. I know tobs hates Japanese people but c'mon.
 

Quintilus

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0.5.5 Patch Notes:
  • While exploring the Old Forest after finishing the Winter City dungeon, you can bump into a priestess in need of saving and who’ll help progress the Corrupted Lupines plotline.
How progress corrupted lupine quest? Checked js code and didint find any references to it.
 

Kroenen12

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That's why this disconnect exist. Those party members have legitimate reasons to be a part of the main storyline, while others... have almost none? So naturally, they have more presence. While I (unfortunately) don't have any info on companion popularity poll (please give if it exists), I'd assume them having more presence (and being impossible to skip) results in them being more popular, so more scenes and content overall.
Actually, do you have the poll? I remember people talking about Brienne beating out Kyoko as the reason for Tobs writing a scene where she is raped, but I've never seen the full poll. Was it posted here?
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Female companion poll (Patreon)
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