Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.35] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Bloep]

I more or less wanted to be hackerman kangaroo jack. Yes i know how cursed that idea that sounds.

Can't blame you, guys a certified STUD

 

[Rickart]

I ran a save. And yeah this is just a bug. Submit your save to their bug reports so they can fix it. Short of finagling with some flags post quest via save editing (and having that annoying pop-up show up forever) I don't know how you would fix that on your own.

Gytha_Encounter
Gytha_Chain

both being made blank ensures she shows up in your dungeon afterwards.
I'd just wait for a bug fix if I were you. As a demon, she shows up with her own scene(s) during Alissa's stockade scene. But it's not like a full blown character expansion.

Edit: On further inspection it might just be a bug for her fight. She should still end up in your dungeon afterwards without finagling.

Thanks for the assist

 

[icecreamman99]

The character is lying to you.

That's the whole point here. Kalysea is tricking and trapping you. There's no real tangible reward because this is content for someone who likes that kind of thing. It's dom content.

it's not about it being dom
Also it's not the character tricking or trapping when a character offers something and then the PC isn't allowed question or interact in anyway that isn't yes or avoid. That's just lazy narrative railroading.

Ahhh yes, this character was so smart, appealing cunning or whatever that they ensnared the PC when their only options was yes, and to avoid them. After this character joins they are, of course, unquestionable despite their offers of help.

"great content," the high bar of only being able to say yes
if that's what is indented

 

[Skandranon]

it's not about it being dom
Also it's not the character tricking or trapping when a character offers something and then the PC isn't allowed question or interact in anyway that isn't yes or avoid. That's just lazy narrative railroading.

Ahhh yes, this character was so smart, appealing cunning or whatever that they ensnared the PC when their only options was yes, and to avoid them. After this character joins they are, of course, unquestionable despite their offers of help.

"great content," the high bar of only being able to say yes
if that's what is indented

That's a completely different issue.


You were critiquing the fact that she doesn't actually reward you with anything; which is the point. She shouldn't, because not rewarding you plays into the fetish she's going for.

Whether or not should be able to get one over on her is a separate issue that I don't particularly have an opinion on.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

But I do know its a hold over from CoC1 which from memory also wasnt implemented unless you count certain mods. (I want to swear there was a CoC1 overhaul mod that turned all the characters into ponies and inserted characters from FiM and allowed you to be a pony).

i could swear it was a april fools event, were ponies showed up around the lake or that equinium had a different effect during april fools

 

[icecreamman99]

That's a completely different issue.


You were critiquing the fact that she doesn't actually reward you with anything; which is the point. She shouldn't, because not rewarding you plays into the fetish she's going for.

Whether or not should be able to get one over on her is a separate issue that I don't particularly have an opinion on.

you right i thought i talked about at some point but it was @Alterism with their post

 

[icecreamman99]

That's a completely different issue.


You were critiquing the fact that she doesn't actually reward you with anything; which is the point. She shouldn't, because not rewarding you plays into the fetish she's going for.

Whether or not should be able to get one over on her is a separate issue that I don't particularly have an opinion on.

ohh no, never mind i did

The character still talks of a types of help which would be interactivity but the only thing I think the player gets is 1 combat summon and I don't think was even one of the things they said they would.
If a character offers a reward and/or help and it doesn't show up, if the reason not because it hasn't been implemented yet the PC should be able to talk about it at least 1 way in of the how, what, and/or when of what they are getting. This does not have to confrontational, this can even be them leading them along even further but make it "clear" that they are doing so. The PC can make their choice afterwards on what they do.

That is basic character intergration and if that is not intended, wanted, being considered, or for whatever reason. Then that character is everything i said it was in the rest of that qoute.

You can like the sex scenes, the quility of the writting, the content overall, and whatever else may be. But that doesn't change what this character is if those things are the intended state of it.
It would be a character that talks about interactivity but has all interactivity of a light switch that gets jammed in the on position if you ever use it. Making it no different when a writer wanted to show off their OC and made untouchable.

 

[icecreamman99]

Alterism post so good and thorough, makes you forget your own

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Its only a single race AND leg modifier(appearance flag specifically I think). Its been there for ages and I only even know it existed thanks to the Save Editor. As far as I know, there's NO way whatsoever to legitimately get it while playing TiTs, even with silly mode on, so I think its something that exists for one of those Fated names or whatever that you could use in character creation to basically get a prebuilt Steele/MC( or more realistically and likely, someone's OC)

I say it in jest but... I hated bronies back in the day for overexposure and I know how that stuff's resilient...

Edit: ... yes I more or less wanted to be hackerman kangaroo jack. Yes i know how cursed that idea that sounds.

The sequel we never got. Porn bit might be a bit weird but the fights would be fun.

 

[mistress.ayin]

I can almost personally explain why TiTS's coding is a giant cluster fuck, its because unlike coc2 which seems to have been made to run in electron or was converted early on.

TiTS started as a flash game and kept going as one because we as a collective society didnt really decide flash needed to die yet. So when the time finally came the TiTS devs had to find somone who would convert the as3 code to javascript.
(God help them in the UI conversion stuff, I was the person who converted CoCX, and kittehs CoC to a UI that didnt require you to own adobe).

But large portions of the TiTS codebase were more or less copypasted from the old as3 code to javascript. You can kind of see this in how TiTS has large amounts of its code exposed as global functions with well defined names, while CoC2 has webpack jibberish with only a few global functions.

For example if you dig into the TiTS codebase you could actually (as of last yearish unless they cleaned it up) see race enums for a theretical MLP race along with a few other enums.

As somone who has looked at both they each have their own problems (trying to compare them is similar to trying to compare a pear and an apple) and the parser is part of both games. Its a hold over from the days of CoC1 bacause both games were atleast in part made using a stripped down version of the CoC1 codebase.

CoC2 is a different flavor of spagetti from TiTS because they took the death of flash in stride and attempted to modernize the codebase or rewrite large parts of it to take advantage of the features of javascript.

While TiTS was rug-pulled by the death of flash and was quickly converted in such a way that worked while preserving the code cruft of the coc1 past.

Edit: christ I wasnt expecting to code nerd sperg this hard.

So its a port (tits) to Javascript and Electron, some of users said they (tits developer) try to code new one in Java ?? in Java or Javascript, which one ??
to other users this post its no connecting to coc2, its about the programming, Java is a difference language from the Javascript !!
Javascript: is a language with some similar instruction command like a C or C++ (but only the command word, not the performance), and can works with the html (hyper text markup language), and the css, you can codes your function and scripts in the javascript and use it inside of the html and css.
at the other hand Java, is a professional language with so many different works, at this moment the best language in the programming is the Java, if you worked with java apps, you sense some of slowing, that's because of java, java has a virtual machine (the JDK), so you can install the JDK or JRE on any system and use your app on it !! but here we have strong point and a weak point too:
Strong point is the virtual machine can read your code directly, without any changes, because the "Interpreter", this will reading your code directly, without any changes, the interpreter, directly make your code known to the machine without the assembly needs.
Weak point, when the interpreter directly known your code to machine, it take time, so you can feel some time the slowing of the java app !!

now i explain why some of programmer prefer C++ instead of Java, because in C++ instead of Interpreter (and virtual machine), you have the Compiler, the compiler (GCC), compiled your codes into the machine language (the assembly language), so you have the compiled code when you run (execute an app) a C++ app, so it work very fast than the java app. (the different between the Compiler and Interpreter)

the last thing about programming languages:

1. if you want mixed programming, the best language is Java or Python
2. if you want build a kernel or an OS or something big, use C++ and Perl
3. if you want web programming Javascript with HTML and CSS (i like this course), or the PHP (some of programmers says PHP is better)
4. at the Database, MySQL or Oracle (if you have a money and rich, the best database), but of course i love Michael Widenius (Monty).

 

[Sparks127]

from experience it was never implemented and the only reason I ever found it was because I was hoping for a kangaroo TF along with a few others that were implemented in code but not exposed via some item. But I do know its a hold over from CoC1 which from memory also wasnt implemented unless you count certain mods. (I want to swear there was a CoC1 overhaul mod that turned all the characters into ponies and inserted characters from FiM and allowed you to be a pony).

Edit: ... yes I more or less wanted to be hackerman kangaroo jack. Yes i know how cursed that idea that sounds.

CoC1 had kanga fruit in vanilla, the pony event was also in vanilla, but I don't think I ever actually did it because it was incredibly convoluted.

 

[AnticrustedTANK]

Will there be more centaur content planned? The 'taur DILF has no more interaction than 'appearances' and that Beast we defeated gets more content at Wayfort but not that handsome one? this is so unfair that I wanna seethe

 

[Alterism]

I recently went ahead and experienced what the hub-bub was that was mentioned about the Harem tattoo. I honestly don't even know why the amount of days were listed in the patchnotes. With even emphasizing it you'd expect something like Octavia's lengthy bender. But it's just a literal "and then they keep fucking". Clearly Wsan was busy.

*snip*

The f95's announcement notification thing puts a seething red 1 next to my bell when you do that.

Anyways, at this point the back and forth you're engaging in threatens to be endless with much of the same points repeated ad-nauseam.

Problems with player control? That's one thing.
Which is the noteworthy part. It's one thing. I don't think there's much else to say on the topic.
As before stated, if the focus of contention is that there is no "give" at all, that's kind of the point of the character.

it's basically findom

Maybe.

The entire thing about fin dom is that the financial domination doesn't stop. This is more of a simple fetch quest than actually siphoning wealth for the sake of the wealth. Or put another way, I don't think such a small part of a characters content can be considered reflective of the fetish they encapsulate.

Honestly speaking, findom would be a "solution" to the endless wealth the PC has given that money is basically worthless.
Though notably It's not even my fetish. I've enjoyed it before but that's mostly predicated on the skill of the author. Some writers just have the ability to suck me into that headspace. With very few exceptions having boundaries pushed ain't a thing CoC2 has thus far proven to be able to do.

Maybe if the character is as funny as Debora in DQ V. That'd be amusing.

i could swear it was a april fools event, were ponies showed up around the lake or that equinium had a different effect during april fools

Hmm. That does sound familiar. Maybe I'm misrememberin-

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I do worry about some of my scenes being too terse or dry/boring at times — that they lack a certain oomph to them

Honestly speaking?

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[Sparks127]

The problems I have with Tetsuya are problems I have with the kitsune as a whole. I've tried to give them so many chances through multiple runs, but they just have too many problems as both a concept and a society...of which I will not go into because I'm sure all the points I could make have already been made here and I just don't want to expend the energy on it.

 

[jfmherokiller]

I say it in jest but... I hated bronies back in the day for overexposure and I know how that stuff's resilient...
The sequel we never got. Porn bit might be a bit weird but the fights would be fun.

Try having your entire FA page just plastered with MLP content.
Also for real the as somone who has a roo sona the porn can get weird lol.

So its a port (tits) to Javascript and Electron, some of users said they (tits developer) try to code new one in Java ?? in Java or Javascript, which one ??

They used javascript so that the game can run in the browser just like its original flash counterpart. Electron is more or less a modified version of chrome to allow developers to make desktop applications using html and javascript.

If you want a game coded in java then see Liliths Throne but thats a giant mess.

 

[OwlBeer]

Can someone add this to the first post? They for some reason marked the changelog as "N/A".

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[Sacred_Lamb]

Thank you and yeah there could and is more stuff that fits for them and i hope that they see it amidst all the hate that was here but i hope this gives a rough idea of what healthier state of Kalysea could be and honest i could do way more and fill it out properly. But it's not even content that i like and i came up with this on the quick, i don't how this content is being made but why fuck is it in this state? And that question could have many answers to it; time, too horny, money, etc. but it's not the only content in this state, there are a lot neglect and cut corners in this game.

also sex is not a reward in a game like this, it's the standard and top it off it's one-sided

Exactly, perishable/situational buffs are a good middle ground for exchange if being dommed or exploited isn't something the player is into. Money talks but I put the blame on laziness and incompetence or indifference because if guys like us that aren't working on the game can come up with some that caters to everyone I don't see why they can't.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I don't think B's ever made anything that shakes me right out of my character the way some of the other writers do. Maybe when the PC is having issues comprehending Lyrics mentality. No other place, really. At least in recent memory

They do it in a way that is inoffensive, the personality is milktoast and plain, there's nothing that pops unlike Wsan that either makes the Pc a supersub bitch or Brint. Both writers are bad, Wsan hijacks your character's personality while B provides none.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

That's a completely different issue.


You were critiquing the fact that she doesn't actually reward you with anything; which is the point. She shouldn't, because not rewarding you plays into the fetish she's going for.

Whether or not should be able to get one over on her is a separate issue that I don't particularly have an opinion on.

How it is framed is that she is propositioning u for a deal, now she has her objectives but the problem is that we (as players) aren't given any options to approach the deal (its either op in or op out, which aren't options).

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Try having your entire FA page just plastered with MLP content.
Also for real the as somone who has a roo sona the porn can get weird lol.

If you want a game coded in java then see Liliths Throne but thats a giant mess.

Hell, it wasn't just on FA. I was a Sonic fan back then, the fucking ponies invaded everything like the Huns. Genghis Khan wishes he was that fucking overpresent.

As for LT, I remember it chugged like an old automobile? I had an old notebook back then and I remember trying it out. Saints Row 4 gave me less grief than that.

They do it in a way that is inoffensive, the personality is milktoast and plain, there's nothing that pops unlike Wsan that either makes the Pc a supersub bitch or Brint. Both writers are bad, Wsan hijacks your character's personality while B provides none.

I'm not too shocked. Game really has a hard time giving you player agency. From there, having you character overridden is really just a hop.