Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.35] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Biostar]

that the devs seem to not have bitten the culture bullet

If that was true there wouldn't be so much fuss over gender/sex in this game.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

If that was true there wouldn't be so much fuss over gender/sex in this game.

Neither there would be a bunch of literal trannies (like Hana).

 

[mistress.ayin]

@mistress.ayin nothing but hate in your heart for Wsan, eh? :'D
But using $700 for a commission is crazy, wtf, I might get into this writing smut gig on side with some help from AI )

This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

He does

This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes.

He does seem to have that vibe of having harsh shit happen to the PC but we can't get to do that at all -_-

 

[YouShallNotLol]

This guy not created this kalysea only, look at all of his characters he created in the game (evelyn, if any one do that her works to me i will kill that person immidiatly, Orlaith, Klemaia, Yani, Octavia, ..., more and more), you can see the mental illness. He is a sadistic sissy guy with a strong humiliation forced fetishes.

Ok, with retrospect from other Wsan characters, I kinda start to see your point. And start to understand why he seemingly stopped giving a fuck about Brienne.

 

[Nidabutt]

If this was what was represented then I 'd like her a lot more but that's not what we got; the PC doesn't bring up counter offers or the fact that a corrupted champ that is down for nefarious actions wouldn't recognize when they're being musked into compliance or asks "why can't I fuck u instead since u need me more than I need u?" We are forced to participate instead of negotiate like how the scene is framed.

Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.

Personally I actually really like the idea of having the option to turn the tables on Kaly and have her made into the PC's bondage pony like Eubicha for dommy players, but it's content I have no sexual interest in so I'm not gonna be cashing out on it. That being said I have been playing around with a middle-ground that allows for more flexibility with Kaly in your relationship but it all relies on what comes out of the discussion when things are ready to be worked on.

 

[icecreamman99]

@mistress.ayin nothing but hate in your heart for Wsan, eh? :'D
But using $700 for a commission is crazy, wtf, I might get into this writing smut gig on side with some help from AI )

for the amount of work and it including the art too, that stuff that might be lower than the norm

 

[Biostar]

If you have an option to completely remove content you dislike from the game how can you still be so angry about it?

There might have been a time when I would have said it takes Wsan away from other projects I'm actually interested in, but considering how much a disappointment his latest content has been, I don't really care about that anymore. Have at him.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

When written well? Pretty alright.

That was me supposing that Kalysea can only really affect the rest of the cast if you accept her around.

Good point, at any rate. Specially the bad apple bit. Their later handling of it made this place the better one to discuss it, whether you like the vitriol or not.

Neat breakdown, but the herd of bad writers in other porn games don't give it a pass in fact it makes us as the enjoyers and consumers look like idiots/shit-tasters for sponsoring foolishness.

Yeah. I'd argue there's more fun to be had on other games even if you don't find them good.

 

[mistress.ayin]

Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.

Personally I actually really like the idea of having the option to turn the tables on Kaly and have her made into the PC's bondage pony like Eubicha for dommy players, but it's content I have no sexual interest in so I'm not gonna be cashing out on it. That being said I have been playing around with a middle-ground that allows for more flexibility with Kaly in your relationship but it all relies on what comes out of the discussion when things are ready to be worked on.

Dear if any one else (a player), does not know this theme and agree to help this npc, and seen this theme that player can not do the quit in this quest, you have only the Quit from the beginning, without any warning !!! and a problem of many players is why they created only "Not Interested" option, why can not do a combat and killing her and gain a corruption point (this path must be at the colosseum too, to kill Octavia on that moment), the game title is the corruption of champion, its mean you do some of dark works, for example i want to kill all of Wsan characters

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Neither there would be a bunch of literal trannies (like Hana).

Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.

I used Hana as an example instead of Ryn, because last time I argued about Ryn - I got ganged up on, and treated as a villain.

 

[Skandranon]

with the gladiator futa who likely had more words spent on her - considering the arena is all one big prelude to that encounter - than the meeting with the royals

Why wouldn't a full character have more words involved than a single event?

Their actual content hasn't come out yet.

And that people quite literally voted with their wallet on what was getting pushed in CoC1.
Donation driven as well. The big decline was actually a result of...

Yeah, I remember all of that. I was around since the games was just a random text game without a real name on e621.

People donating just led to a repeated string of camp waifu characters and nothing else, not the really weird stuff people remember. It's a big part of why Fen was eager to be done with it and move away from that model. And of the course the various writers coming and going...

I've gone into more detail before, but many things about TiTs are a response to everything that went wrong in CoC, amd many things about CoC2 are a clear response to what went wrong in CoC and TiTs. And the next game they keep hinting at will be a response to mistakes in CoC2, etc.

Of course, there's been some things which were overcorrections too.

But eh. I like CoC2 way more than CoC1, so, it's all good.

 

[mistress.ayin]

Have you scene the Ryn controversy? At one point on the forum I think Alypia was saying "if guy says he's a girl then he's a girl" (I'm paraphrasing here) and any comments contrary to agreement was deleted. The lead Devs are Commies or at least act like it. Sexaulity is subjective, gender might be a combination of social conventions n natural inclinations but sex is unnegotiable by law of nature; you're either man (u have a dick) or woman (u have a pussy). Anything else is either a medical abnormality (like natural hermaphrodites), made up or in your head, and that's on you the individual.

they had a code for textify in the output window:

[pc.mf\n|boy\n|girl\n]
[pc.mf\n|cock\n|vagina\n]
[pc.mf\n|he\n|she\n]

the pc.mf it means the PC are have male or female specific, for example if pc was male show the cock or was female show vagina, the "\n" is the enter keyboard character, so at the text print an enter, and the "|" it means the "or" if pc is male (show cock) or female (show vagina). of course the or command in the boolean variable is this "||" character.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

But eh. I like CoC2 way more than CoC1, so, it's all good.

There's so much obviously wrong with CoC2, and you just keep licking Savin's boots.
And that's why I don't trust a single word from you.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Doing so would require a sub Kaly route which I can't realistically afford to commission. As I've said many times people are free to commission it (or write it to contribute with standard proceedures) themselves, it would absolutely be possible within her story but by allowing the PC to say 'hey I want to bargain with X' you have to also write all of the content that follows. Right now the path follows the logic of 'the only winning move is to not play her game'.

Understandable, cashflow is always a limiting factor but Wsan could've framed it much better without taking control of the pc and leaving thes option. Evergreen propositioning Cait for info is a good example; you can out right reject the offer for Cait, leave Cait to do her whore's best, you can pay for her and involve her, or link it to another quest (recent addition which is telling tht someone outside the Dev team had to think of tht years later)

Man don't even get me started on Eubich, she has had zero Player centric Dom content in years (from what I've seen) but back to back updates on us having other ppl fuck her in addition to subbing for said ppl that fuck our girl in front of us. Get that cuck shit out my face

 

[mistress.ayin]

Why wouldn't a full character have more words involved than a single event?

Their actual content hasn't come out yet.

don't bother your self, its a Sissy Wsan scenes, he put the horsecock in the all of Main Character hole's (he loves only anal and oral, and strong humiliation forced fetishes, nothing more to humiliate the player), over and over again !! nothing happened in the sadistic wsan scenes except taking some money from patrons !! and his sadistic horsecock fetish, and his mind illness.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I used Hana as an example instead of Ryn, because last time I argued about Ryn - I got ganged up on, and treated as a villain.

Group think is in strong effect bro, fall in line Npc lol

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

they had a code for textify in the output window:

[pc.mf\n|boy\n|girl\n]
[pc.mf\n|cock\n|vagina\n]
[pc.mf\n|he\n|she\n]

the pc.mf it means the PC are have male or female specific, for example if pc was male show the cock or was female show vagina, the "\n" is the enter keyboard character, so at the text print an enter, and the "|" its meas the "or" if pc is male (show cock) or female (show vagina). of course the or command in the boolean variable is this "||" character.

Yeah I've seen the parser document, I'm not a fan of the design philosophy either

There's so much obviously wrong with CoC2, and you just keep licking Savin's boots.
And that's why I don't trust a single word from you.

You gotta understand bro he's a 'eat shit n appreciate it' type of guy

Yeah, I remember all of that. I was around since the games was just a random text game without a real name on e621.

People donating just led to a repeated string of camp waifu characters and nothing else, not the really weird stuff people remember. It's a big part of why Fen was eager to be done with it and move away from that model. And of the course the various writers coming and going...

I've gone into more detail before, but many things about TiTs are a response to everything that went wrong in CoC, amd many things about CoC2 are a clear response to what went wrong in CoC and TiTs. And the next game they keep hinting at will be a response to mistakes in CoC2, etc.

Of course, there's been some things which were overcorrections too.

But eh. I like CoC2 way more than CoC1, so, it's all good.

When u don't have a direction for your game and simply take commissions, request and randoms writing then of course things are going to be tiring or frustrating. The only real difference is that they're a bit more reserved with the selection but the strat is the same, milk commissions and update the story every few months if not years. TiTs legit has no story or throughline that is character driven but them commissions stay flowing tho

 

[Nidabutt]

don't bother your self, its a Sissy Wsan scenes, he put the horsecock in the all of Main Character asses (he loves only anal and anal, and strong humiliation forced fetishes, nothing more to humiliate the player), over and over again !! nothing happened in the sadistic wsan scenes except taking some money from patrons !! and his sadistic horsecock fetish, and his mind illness.

I don't think it's quite fair to say this about Wsan, it was my choice to not have any pregnancy added to Kalysea because I wanted it to be more special than a throw-away vaginal scene resulting in getting pregnant with another generic child 'but oh this time they're a centaur'. It'll either be part of a commissioned update involving it or as a 'Mayternity' patch, probably the former though as there are older characters I'm sure people want a Mayternity patch for first.

Kaly can't knock up any characters right now despite having vaginal scenes with them for reasons yet to be revealed (Wsan added some vaginal scenes with NPCs). She's a druid and sees childbearing as a sacred duty, so she wouldn't go around knocking up random people she doesn't have a bond with, I like the idea of it being almost ritualised with body painting, fertility rites and so on. Again a lot of this stuff will be revealed as her new content comes around but no idea when that will be yet.

I really like the idea of having a heavy focus on breeding with Kaly (it's pretty fitting after all) but that would lock characters who don't have pussies out of a big chunk of her content which I don't like, so it's a bit rough. The only other alternative would be Kaly offering to transform the PC to be a more fitting mother for her foals but then that's forcing a TF to interact with her further, which sucks for people who don't want their char to have a pussy ofc. :/