Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.35] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Fikedever]

I Swear please add Gweyr into the game as sexable........ Definitely have her walk in or notice you breeding her daughter, and it drives her wild !!!!!!!!!

+1 supporter, if you have a link and do this !

I didn't make it, I just posted it.

I don't think it has anything to do with Savin, it was the same way in CoC1 and TiTs. It has to do with simply being the easiest way to handle a bunch of relationships in a game where content is being written by dozens of different people: everyone is pretty much okay with everything. No conflict, no need to account for a bunch of different relationship states between different people.

CoC1 generally associated sex with corruption. Previously, you gave examples of CoC1 characters that had sharing content, and most of them were corrupt. Over time, CoC1 did add more sharing content in. And, Savin wrote for CoC1, and the characters he puts the most work into tend to have a similar theme (Helia, Anno, Cait). TiTs is much more of a power fantasy because Fen as the lead wanted it that way. Savin doesn't like power fantasies, so he dialed it back in CoC2 since he was the lead.

Characters aren't polyamorous because the PC is polyamorous. Characters are polyamorous because the writers either like that content, and/or prefer writing two characters interacting because they have a concrete visualization of the character, while the PC is a transformation blob that requires accounting for parsers. That also leads to threesomes which should be about all three of the characters, but at times the PC gets sidelined over the two NPCs.

If the writers didn't like poly content, then the character wouldn't have it written. Brienne has a strict rule on that, even though Savin wants to write threesome content for her. This isn't even because Wsan dislikes poly content. I think he knows Brienne would drop in popularity if it happened.

The vast majority of people prefer monogamy in real life. I don't think that necessarily reflects their desires in porn games. Though any speculation on my part is pure guess work, because porn game preferences are a little hard to nail down, as scattered as the industry is.

At least the subset of CoC2 patreon supporters appear to prefer monogamy.

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The PC being in charge of a harem hurts a plot in my eyes (speaking generally, not for any specific game) because harems are wildly illogical. It would take a very particular kind of personality to agree to a blatantly non-equal relationship like that, or a social structure extremely different from ours. Most games that I've played that have actual harems tend to be games that either don't really take themselves seriously or are very badly written.

Does polyamory hurt the plot? It's also widely illogical, and very rarely works in real life.

For another popular example, I'd point at Summertime Saga, which has had a somewhat similar issue for a long time and has been an ongoing point of contention between the fanbase and the dev.

I don't know the situation of Summertime Saga, so I can't really comment on it.

Still doesn't appeal to me. I just don't think lovey-dovey romance works if it's spread out too far or is too one-sided.

Spread out, like in game time, or out of game real life time? Also, what do you mean by one-sided?

Is this a canonically acknowledged thing? I always assumed that the PC being able to switch classes is simply for gameplay reasons, and not something the story actually grants them. I might have missed something, though.

Yes. One example of it affecting the ingame story directly (not just game mechanics) is Kinu. She's an extremely fast learner, so fast that her mother teaches her the wrong thing in an event because she's jealous. Kinu gets frustrated when she has difficulting learning how to use her first weapon because she's never before had difficulty learning something quickly. This is because she inherited her father's ability to learn things quickly.

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Since all of Kiyoko's named floof children are intended to reflect some aspect or other of the Champion, Kinu represents the Champion's ability to learn things at a frightful rate — she seems to instinctively grasp any idea or concept she comes across, mastering skills in the blink of an eye. Where Kiyoko has had a very, very long time in captivity on the astral plane to learn what she has, Kinu simply absorbs information at the same breakneck speed the Champion exhibits.

Level 20 cap...
Looks like I'll lose my sanity throughout the grinding experience.

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[Skandranon]

CoC1 generally associated sex with corruption. Previously, you gave examples of CoC1 characters that had sharing content, and most of them were corrupt. Over time, CoC1 did add more sharing content in. And, Savin wrote for CoC1, and the characters he puts the most work into tend to have a similar theme (Helia, Anno, Cait). TiTs is much more of a power fantasy because Fen as the lead wanted it that way. Savin doesn't like power fantasies, so he dialed it back in CoC2 since he was the lead.

Characters aren't polyamorous because the PC is polyamorous. Characters are polyamorous because the writers either like that content, and/or prefer writing two characters interacting because they have a concrete visualization of the character, while the PC is a transformation blob that requires accounting for parsers. That also leads to threesomes which should be about all three of the characters, but at times the PC gets sidelined over the two NPCs.

If the writers didn't like poly content, then the character wouldn't have it written. Brienne has a strict rule on that, even though Savin wants to write threesome content for her. This isn't even because Wsan dislikes poly content. I think he knows Brienne would drop in popularity if it happened.

I think you're misunderstanding something here: I'm not talking about sharing content, I'm talking about the nature and expectations of the relationships themselves.

Every relationship and every character in this game is an open relationship, including Kiyoko and Brienne and all the Champ-centric characters. They don't expect your character to be exclusive to them, and your character also does not have any expectations of exclusivity from them. The fact that said characters only bang your champ is simply from lack of interest, not from the restrictions of the relationship itself. You have a conversation with both Kiyoko and Brienne about this exact thing.

That's what I mean, and that's what's been the same in all three games. No jealousy, and no in universe expectation of monogamy either way in the relationship, even if monogamy is enforced on the writer's side.

At least the subset of CoC2 patreon supporters appear to prefer monogamy.

I don't think that's what those polls say...at all. Just that group sex isn't very high on the fetish list, not that they prefer monogamous relationships. It's a couple of leaps to extrapolate that.

Does polyamory hurt the plot? It's also widely illogical, and very rarely works in real life.

Not really. I can buy basically an open relationship. A relationship that's only open one way is a much harder sell.

Spread out, like in game time, or out of game real life time? Also, what do you mean by one-sided?

Nothing to do with time, just the dilution of affection. And "one-sided", meaning a relationship where one side is clearly more invested than the other.

Yes. One example of it affecting the ingame story directly (not just game mechanics) is Kinu. She's an extremely fast learner, so fast that her mother teaches her the wrong thing in an event because she's jealous. Kinu gets frustrated when she has difficulting learning how to use her first weapon because she's never before had difficulty learning something quickly. This is because she inherited her father's ability to learn things quickly.

Of course it would be in the part of the game I've never done.

 

[sskrx7]

I forgot who owns Cait + Temple, but if it is Tobs, and you guys wanted to get back at him bad enough. I am more than sure if enough reports to patreon about child grooming etc, and other Fancy Worded Terminology was used. His entire crap would be put on hold until removed. -_- no more income, and boom, I betcha he would show up here wanting to know why.

Especially since he is going to mess over Brienne + Family.....

Cait had a meltdown recently:

 

[Quintilus]

Cait had a meltdown recently:

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This her usual behavior, AFAIK.

 

[TheVegnar]

I am pretty sure, if Cait could be bred, 30% of the hate cait has would probably be avoid, but that still leaves 70% of DOOM....

 

[Lord Kentus]

I am pretty sure, if Cait could be bred, 30% of the hate cait has would probably be avoid, but that still leaves 70% of DOOM....

I personally find little fault with the character involving their sterility, it mostly stems from the grooming tbh, in the early days I was fine with her being the town bike even but the more I learned about her religion and the more they expanded on it...

 

[Skandranon]

I actually don't have any problem with Cait besides her being boring. She's just kinda...one note. Vanilla.

Basically human with kitty ears and tail, been there done that about 1000 times over 3 games, and a one-track personality to back it up with.

It's weird because Anno was a much more well-rounded, way better character.

 

[Jesus_II]

Anyone got this Electron wrapper thingy to work? It tries to load the index.html through file://, and the browser promptly (and rightfully) refuses to do that, as it should. So how has this ever worked?

Ended up just serving it via a local https server with self signed certs instead,

 

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How versatile is the mod tool? I've been thinking of editing some companion interactions to soothe my fancy.

 

[Quintilus]

Anyone got this Electron wrapper thingy to work? It tries to load the index.html through file://, and the browser promptly (and rightfully) refuses to do that, as it should. So how has this ever worked?

Ended up just serving it via a local https server with self signed certs instead,

You doing it wrong

 

[Jesus_II]

You doing it wrong

Which part of "Electron wrapper" was ambiguous?

 

[Quintilus]

and the browser promptly (and rightfully) refuses to do that

What you trying to do? Launch it through browser or launch it "as is"?
For browser case open folder resources/app and run index.html in browser.
For as is case just doubleclick on CoCII.exe in game root folder.

 

[throbzombie]

Howdy ho, pervs and pervettes! Anything new since February?

 

[Quintilus]

Howdy ho, pervs and pervettes! Anything new since February?

No, it still not compostable.

 

[Jesus_II]

For as is case just doubleclick on CoCII.exe in game root folder.

The "as is" is an Electron wrapper, and it tries to access the index.html via file://, which is doomed to fail. I'm not that familiar with all the settings in this wrapper, but I assume it must have some https wrapper or internal datasource so the internal Chromium browser can load files directly from disk without failing on security checks.

 

[Quintilus]

The "as is" is an Electron wrapper, and it tries to access the index.html via file://, which is doomed to fail. I'm not that familiar with all the settings in this wrapper, but I assume it must have some https wrapper or internal datasource so the internal Chromium browser can load files directly from disk without failing on security checks.

Something wrong with you system than.
Because for everybody else it works fine. This is a first question of this kind that I see here.
Just run index.html directly in browser than.

 

[Jesus_II]

Something wrong with you system than.
Because for everybody else it works fine. This is a first question of this kind that I see here.
Just run index.html directly in browser than.

Nothing else "wrong" than that I have default security settings (file:// urls are considered dangerous by default - check your Chrome documentation). But I get it, won't ask any more difficult questions.

 

[Quintilus]

Nothing else "wrong" than that I have default security settings (file:// urls are considered dangerous by default - check your Chrome documentation). But I get it, won't ask any more difficult questions.

Than why literally everybody else here didnt had same problem?
Double click on exe file and you in a world on shitty characters and kinks that nobody asked for, that are forcibly pushed down you throat with a leg by a main developer...sorry, not throat, esophagus!!!!!!11111

 

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[keni77]

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