Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.37] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Skandranon]

If people clamor for pregshit that badly, yeah sure go ahead I guess. It was just an example of things that don't really contribute at all to forwarding the game or introduce anything special.

Everyone wants different stuff, as I mentioned in another post. Just taking this thread as an example, several people have mentioned they don't give a crap about the story. Heck, the most clamored for content in here is Brints mom and sister, two completely unimportant side NPCs that aren't particularly unique or special, just hit the right notes for a bunch of folks.

I'm not really comparing it to anything, just making observations based on what I see. I'm not saying they're doing a horrible job, just not the best they could be doing. I also don't think we should commend them just for not being fucking horrible like 90% of western porn games. Putting out consistent and decent content when you make almost 25k a month for the project shouldn't be lauded, even if shit like summertime saga can't manage to do that.

Eh, that's where we're going to have a irreconcilable difference in opinion I guess. I think it's hard to say if someone is doing well without comparisons; otherwise, we're just setting an arbitrary mark and saying they should be hitting it without any context.

Money doesn't really enter into it for me; the only thing that I think money is good for in judging things like this is quantity, not quality. And I don't think it's a controversial thing to say that quantity isn't something this game is lacking.

 

[Boardguy]

poor arona, first brienne and now lusamine...

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Fucking hell Arona. you can't bitch about Lusamine being racist when the first thing you try to do is have your way with the PC and party, having attempted raids and now you talk this shit about me cow wife? Arona would be considered a racist caricature if a good chunk of Orcs weren't like her. Plus Lusamine may not have the best opinions on orcs considering they raid her home country too.

 

[Kroenen12]

Fucking hell Arona. you can't bitch about Lusamine being racist when the first thing you try to do is have your way with the PC and party, having attempted raids and now you talk this shit about me cow wife? Arona would be considered a racist caricature if a good chunk of Orcs weren't like her. Plus Lusamine may not have the best opinions on orcs considering they raid her home country too.

Arona:"Dunno why she fuckin' hates me"
also arona:

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[Boardguy]

dealt with the problem folk.

Arona:"Dunno why she fuckin' hates me"
also arona:

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Reminder, Her camp has a slave pen when you first enter it and a lot of unnamed slaves. Slaver races talking shit to each other about slavery and walking free is weird.

 

[Daken9]

Arona:"Dunno why she fuckin' hates me"
also arona:

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With better direction and a bit of vision Arona could have had quite a good character arc, though. I don't know how her dom self reacts, but by the scene in the baths it's pretty clear Sub Arona is bothered by how people view her and does kind of understand where the problem lies, so in my opinion it would have been a great spot to put a variable in place and then have it trigger during the cow teacher quest.

If Arona_Talk_Bath=False (or whatever) then she gets halted, the Champion and Brienne look down on her as they do, and she stomps away like she does.

If Arona_Talk_Bath=True then maybe she plays it a bit more sympathetic, perhaps the Champion and Brienne help her out 'cause y'know the Champion did just confess their love for her and Brienne did just have a front row seat for that whole heart-to-heart, and thus she ends up being allowed into the classroom and is actually given the chance to improve relations between orcs and minos/showcase that she's not just some raping orc.

Like, i don't know, those scenes fit after eachother so well yet nothing is made to actually make them work together. And hell, maybe you could even restrict this whole thing to Sub Arona, although i don't really think Dom Arona or even her just-met self are that bad by CoC standards considering how the foxes and marefolk behave (both keeping to the pillage and rape even after their issues are solved, and both having bad endings to their name if you lose to them as opposed to Arona), but either way i think it would've been nice, pretty cool 'cause reactionary, and would have served better thematically to boot (union > division, which is really what the effort to fight Kaz is all about).

 

[MoneyMan181]

With better direction and a bit of vision Arona could have had quite a good character arc, though. I don't know how her dom self reacts, but by the scene in the baths it's pretty clear Sub Arona is bothered by how people view her and does kind of understand where the problem lies, so in my opinion it would have been a great spot to put a variable in place and then have it trigger during the cow teacher quest.

If Arona_Talk_Bath=False (or whatever) then she gets halted, the Champion and Brienne look down on her as they do, and she stomps away like she does.

If Arona_Talk_Bath=True then maybe she plays it a bit more sympathetic, perhaps the Champion and Brienne help her out, 'cause y'know the Champion did just confess their love for her and Brienne did just have a front row seat for that whole heart-to-heart, and thus she ends up being allowed into the classroom and is actually given the chance to improve relations between orcs and minos/showcase that she's not just some raping orc.

Like, i don't know. Maybe you could even restrict it to Sub Arona, although i don't really think even Dom Arona is that bad by CoC standards considering her just-met self eventually lets the Champion go if they lose to her (as opposed to the foxes who get a bad ending) and that the orcs at large actually do quit the pillaging and raiding after their issues are solved (as opposed to the foxes/marefolk who just keep going around bending over people).

But either way i think it would've been nice, pretty cool 'cause reactionary, and would have served better thematically to boot (union over division, which is really what the effort to fight Kaz is all about).

Literally every character could have better character arcs.

Maybe we'll get more as the story goes on, but I think the only one that has any meaningful change is Ryn and her quest isn't even done yet. Gotta say, they did do a good job characterizing her and her growth as a person. If it wasn't for Brienne, she'd be my favorite companion by far. Wish we got more introspective and meaningful stuff like that but most people probably just want the porn

 

[Kroenen12]

Slaver races talking shit to each other about slavery and walking free is weird.

 

[Daken9]

Literally every character could have better character arcs.

Maybe we'll get more as the story goes on, but I think the only one that has any meaningful change is Ryn and her quest isn't even done yet. Gotta say, they did do a good job characterizing her and her growth as a person. If it wasn't for Brienne, she'd be my favorite companion by far. Wish we got more introspective and meaningful stuff like that but most people probably just want the porn

Ryn is too all over the place for me. Like, Savin writes her one way, then Skow writes her another, then in comes Alypia, and last but not least Tobs' essay on the matter. Just, fucking sit around a table on discord and discuss where your characters are at. Marvel does it, to not step on eachothers' toes between movies, you'd think a team of ten could too.

I also frankly don't know what they were thinking when they gave a dick to the cute disney princess. Straight up manages what all the horse schlongs don't and turns me off like crazy. Maybe because it just doesn't fit her aesthetic, dunno.

 

[Kroenen12]

Arona_Talk_Bath=True then maybe she plays it a bit more sympathetic, perhaps the Champion and Brienne help her out 'cause y'know the Champion did just confess their love for her and Brienne did just have a front row seat for that whole heart-to-heart, and thus she ends up being allowed into the classroom and is actually given the chance to improve relations between orcs and minos/showcase that she's not just some raping orc.

that sounds great but there is only one problem, kervus

 

[Daken9]

that sounds great but there is only one problem, kervus
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I mean, sure, but how are they worse than everyone else. Of all the kervus orcs we meet, Arona's party is the only one that's actually out and about to raid, and even she comes around eventually. Meanwhile, you got foxes sucking out people's souls as a feature, marefolk turning into crazies when they're age 18, and mino dudebros roaming the wilds looking for gangbangs.

Like, if it was a definitive black and white situation then sure, but even in the lore it's not since we're outright told everyone practices slavery, so might as well embrace the grey and give us the tools to build bridges Geth/Quarian style, especially since we have in our own party a prime example of a kervus orc and a mino from KM working together for a common goal and making it work.

 

[M0nte]

that sounds great but there is only one problem, kervus
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Not sure about that Brint comment... Like, he is supposedly fine (or at least not as bothered) that Mino girls get sold into slavery by the Orcs, yet when he gets bent into Brienne, suddenly it means something more to her because it can affect her? Ehhh, not fan of that reading. It makes them both come of way as uncaring noggin.

 

[Skandranon]

Not sure about that Brint comment... Like, he is supposedly fine (or at least not as bothered) that Mino girls get sold into slavery by the Orcs, yet when he gets bent into Brienne, suddenly it means something more to her because it can affect her? Ehhh, not fan of that reading. It makes them both come of way as uncaring noggin.

Seems pretty stereotypical mildly sexist fantasy.

Men are all about war, women aren't. Brint sees what happens as a natural consequence of a fair fight, Brienne, as a cowgirl, isn't predisposed to fighting so has a different view on it.

 

[Meblue]

that sounds great but there is only one problem, kervus
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Why are we even still fighting Kassyra at this point? The world has already gone to shit, and pretty much everyone is a corrupted asshole - And the ones that aren't rarely oppose shit like Cait's child grooming or slavery. And the Gods sure as hell aren't going to do anything about it - in fact they actively perpetuate it. We may as well embrace the corruption.

 

[arls120]

Why are we even still fighting Kassyra at this point? The world has already gone to shit, and pretty much everyone is a corrupted asshole - And the ones that aren't rarely oppose shit like Cait's child grooming or slavery. And the Gods sure as hell aren't going to do anything about it - in fact they actively perpetuate it. We may as well embrace the corruption.

I keep fighting because I'm not interested in giving my soul to a futanari demon, if she were a stud demon or could become a very attractive male demon it would be something else.

 

[WaterH20]

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0.5.2 Patch Notes:

• There’s a new milfy baker in Khor’minos who doesn’t know she needs a champion to loosen her up and get her in touch with her inner slut. (By Fleep!)

 

[Skandranon]

Oh hey, it's the corruptible elf milf.

Was hoping this was the Berwyn patch tho...

 

[Boardguy]

Why are we even still fighting Kassyra at this point? The world has already gone to shit, and pretty much everyone is a corrupted asshole - And the ones that aren't rarely oppose shit like Cait's child grooming or slavery. And the Gods sure as hell aren't going to do anything about it - in fact they actively perpetuate it. We may as well embrace the corruption.

I would say you fight for your kids back in town so they don't grow up in a demon-infested world but the way most of the society ain't better. You would be better getting as many uncorrupted sheep as possible, your kids, the non-shit moms, and fucking off to an uninhabited island.

 

[Wrynn13]

Good news everyone. With the combat patch in Antigua makes a good enough tanky healer you don't need the turbosloot, at least not so far. Bad news, the sloot still manages to insert herself in scenes even if you never brought her with...

 

[Raf-Raf]

the sloot still manages to insert herself in scenes even if you never brought her with...

A true sloot, every hole is a chance for glory and she never misses any.

 

[Lord Kentus]

Good news everyone. With the combat patch in Antigua makes a good enough tanky healer you don't need the turbosloot, at least not so far. Bad news, the sloot still manages to insert herself in scenes even if you never brought her with...

One of these days I am just going to crop her face on to the Emperor during that scene of him going down the reactor shaft and just make a gif out of it