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Bloep

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1. the legal term is "sexual assault", not "rape".
Forced kissing and forced groping are considered "sexual assault" too.
that does not mean that kissing is sex.

2. Literally a point I raised. the mouth is an exception.
you say that a rimbjox is sex.
you say that penetrating the mouth is sex.
by your argument, kissing is sex too since a tongue penetrated the mouth.

3. it is crazy to me that you look at scissoring and think it is sex. it is at best foreplay.

4.
A. wikipedia is trash. never use it as a source for anything.
B. I literally used the term penetration. so yes, I am fully aware.
C. if there is no penetration then you are not engaging in sex. "jobs" of various kinds are a form of foreplay. kissing and groping are not sex either, but are instead in the "makeout" stage.

basically the stages of intimacy are:
0. nothing
1. chaste touches. hand holding.
2. makeout. kiss, grope, rub with hands.
3. foreplay. assorted "jobs".
4. sex. penetration
1. Not talking about the legallity of it, more so the semantics. Back to my question, do you think forced oral sex as less severe than forced vaginal sex as the former is not "real" sex in your eyes? Just curious on how you would view that.

2. You literally said that rimming was not sex, did you think rimming didn't involve the mouth before i brought up tongue? " There is a reason why kissing is not sex, and rimming is not either." - you said that.
And no, my decider for what constitutes sex wouldn't be penetration, it would be what parts of the body you use. Rimjobs aren't a sexual act because you MIGHT penetrate the bussy with your tongue, but because you act involves a private area. Kissing someone on the lips? Not a sex act. Kissing someone on the clit? Very much a sex act.

3. "Scissoring is at best foreplay"
So if you had a gf and she scissored with another girl, you wouldn't consider that as her having sex with another person?

4. "Wiki is trash" - why?
So jobs are not sex..... except blowjobs? So they are sex sometimes?
 

Tsubuhaza

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Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.
I'll still maintain that back when I stopped, there really seemed to be just springing futas left and right but I think that would be ignorable enough without the other problems faffing about.

Hard to want to stick around dodging dicks when you're not feeling much good from most interactions or any drive to do anything and stuck with a Sonic Chronicles battle system coupled with a hard cap from that time the project lead had a fit.
 

Meatshield236

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Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.
Agreed on all fronts. The problem is that these writers seem to have a shonen anime character problem, where instead of having a small number of fleshed out characters they have a massive number of shallow characters and a tiny number of kinda fleshed out characters. Now, in some respects I can understand that. This is a porn game after all, and having a diverse array of body types and personalities is a good thing. Buuuut the problem is that this simply isn't the case with these characters. They make one-off characters that are functionally identical to previous characters. And this isn't just a problem with the futas, basically everything on the spectrum has too many overlapping characters.
 

fakklan

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"Scissoring is at best foreplay"
So if you had a gf and she scissored with another girl, you wouldn't consider that as her having sex with another person?
Well... yeah. If there's no penis going in, it's masturbating someone or in this case mutual masturbation.
 

MoneyMan181

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They do have a core set of characters that are more fleshed out then the rest though?
1) They pick and choose who they want to flesh out completely arbitrarily. Companions should without a doubt have the most content compared to regular NPCs and yet that isn't the case for like 3 or 4 companions. Kalysea alone probably has more content than Atugia and she's been in like 2 fucking patch notes.
2) Fleshed out is a generous term. That implies something is multi-layered and has actual meat to it, which none of these characters really have besides amount of content. But even that is downplayed by the fact that so much of it feels copy and pasted with one another. What the fuck is the actual difference between Kalysea and Orlaith? "Hur dur one is just a teensy bit more degrading than the other!" this absolute negligible differences in personality traits is part of the issue. I could not tell you even half of the female content in this game because all of it just melds together into a soup because it's all so samey. I feel exactly the same fucking Cait, Atugia, or Azy as I do any village slut I come across.

Also can we actually avoid getting the thread nuked by scrapping this completely autistic conversation about what constitutes sex?
 

QuedzaDrake

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I could not tell you even half of the female content in this game because all of it just melds together into a soup because it's all so samey. I feel exactly the same fucking Cait, Atugia, or Azy as I do any village slut I come across.
Yeah, that's another issue to be added to the pile. Doesnt matter if you are fucking a Cat, Harpy, Sheep, Dullahan, Hornet, Kitsune, Orc, Elf, Minotaur or Dragon. half of the scenes ignore any uniqueness of that race, if that race even has anything unique to begin with, and if you are lucky the other half acknowledges their race with a gimmick scene
 

arcader000

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1) They pick and choose who they want to flesh out completely arbitrarily. Companions should without a doubt have the most content compared to regular NPCs and yet that isn't the case for like 3 or 4 companions. Kalysea alone probably has more content than Atugia and she's been in like 2 fucking patch notes.
2) Fleshed out is a generous term. That implies something is multi-layered and has actual meat to it, which none of these characters really have besides amount of content. But even that is downplayed by the fact that so much of it feels copy and pasted with one another. What the fuck is the actual difference between Kalysea and Orlaith? "Hur dur one is just a teensy bit more degrading than the other!" this absolute negligible differences in personality traits is part of the issue. I could not tell you even half of the female content in this game because all of it just melds together into a soup because it's all so samey. I feel exactly the same fucking Cait, Atugia, or Azy as I do any village slut I come across.

Also can we actually avoid getting the thread nuked by scrapping this completely autistic conversation about what constitutes sex?
Kalysea is a weird outlier cause she's some donor's OC and I'm assuming he paid the big bucks for it.
But generally speaking the companions and main story characters should and do got the most content, its just an inherent flaw with their system of having one writer per companion. There's a fuck ton of content if they're passionate about them like wsan but if they're busy with other characters the companion gets left to the wayside for a while cause who the fuck else is going to write for them.

Autistic arguments about what constitutes sex is what I come to this forum for, the funniest fucking shit. Complete derailment of another argument for no reason other than semantics.
 

Skandranon

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But generally speaking the companions and main story characters should and do got the most content, its just an inherent flaw with their system of having one writer per companion.
Nah, the problem is not enforcing a minimum content standard for the companions.

If Savin actually required everyone who has a companion to actually occasionally write for them thered be no problem.

At least one good sized drop of content per companion, even per year, shouldn't be too much to ask.
 
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