1. Not talking about the legallity of it, more so the semantics. Back to my question, do you think forced oral sex as less severe than forced vaginal sex as the former is not "real" sex in your eyes? Just curious on how you would view that.1. the legal term is "sexual assault", not "rape".
Forced kissing and forced groping are considered "sexual assault" too.
that does not mean that kissing is sex.
2. Literally a point I raised. the mouth is an exception.
you say that a rimbjox is sex.
you say that penetrating the mouth is sex.
by your argument, kissing is sex too since a tongue penetrated the mouth.
3. it is crazy to me that you look at scissoring and think it is sex. it is at best foreplay.
4.
A. wikipedia is trash. never use it as a source for anything.
B. I literally used the term penetration. so yes, I am fully aware.
C. if there is no penetration then you are not engaging in sex. "jobs" of various kinds are a form of foreplay. kissing and groping are not sex either, but are instead in the "makeout" stage.
basically the stages of intimacy are:
0. nothing
1. chaste touches. hand holding.
2. makeout. kiss, grope, rub with hands.
3. foreplay. assorted "jobs".
4. sex. penetration
2. You literally said that rimming was not sex, did you think rimming didn't involve the mouth before i brought up tongue? " There is a reason why kissing is not sex, and rimming is not either." - you said that.
And no, my decider for what constitutes sex wouldn't be penetration, it would be what parts of the body you use. Rimjobs aren't a sexual act because you MIGHT penetrate the bussy with your tongue, but because you act involves a private area. Kissing someone on the lips? Not a sex act. Kissing someone on the clit? Very much a sex act.
3. "Scissoring is at best foreplay"
So if you had a gf and she scissored with another girl, you wouldn't consider that as her having sex with another person?
4. "Wiki is trash" - why?
So jobs are not sex..... except blowjobs? So they are sex sometimes?