Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.16] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daddums]

Look, Will was the only one of the main writers I could stomach his work, but he did have a real bad habit of making up a character, hyping them up with endless commissioned artworks and design documents, and then never delivering. Even he himself would admit this, and I know he was struggling mental wise, which is why I tend to go easy on him.

But man is it annoying seeing Bianca and the rest of his characters being posted around like they're fully fleshed out in TiTs, when in reality most of them like that Jumper chick he was making are about as relevant to the game as Excellia was to CoC I, that is to say, they're just someone's OC.

When it comes to Einen, while I myself wouldn't call her some lost opportunity, given that she was allegedly going to be heavily involved with Cait, I will forever be salty about her because she was suppose to be the Thief companion slot. They replaced Berwyn with Viv for the Black Mage slot, but didn't fill in for Einen. Make it make sense.

Except he kept getting rejected every time he showed them his progress. Told to rework shit constantly. That's why it took forever, he keeps getting rejected and yet shit like Agnimitra gets in easy peasy. The most boring Mary Sue character ever. Even in her fucking stories she's a fucking Mary Sue, particularly the Fiercest Harpy song. Complete trash, but somehow the stuff Will was gonna put in wasn't good enough.

And we've long gone past any of their decisions making sense. It's quite clear Savin and company play favorites. They got a clique going on and if you don't match it, you don't get shit. It's why I don't have any favorite writers anymore, they all succumb to the cult mentality or else risk never getting their shit in.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

By the way, what's everyone's rankings when it comes to how hot our companions are?

1. Kiyoko (Happy family inside the orb, forever)
2. Brienne (Touch the cow, do it now)
3. Berwyn (Look how they massacred my boy)
4. Viviane (Fantasy human supremacy)
5. SubArona (Good orc is a submissive orc)
6. Azyrran (Still soured by Skow's cuckery)
7. Etheryn (One day, I'll make her a real girl)
8. Atugia (Wasted potential)
9. Agnimitra (She has holes I can fuck, unlike Quintillus)
10. Quintillus (Bro was dead in the water since the very start)

Even he himself would admit this, and I know he was struggling mental wise, which is why I tend to go easy on him.

Except Savin was constantly rejecting Will's submissions under the excuse of "insufficient quality".
Just like with Einen, who was already partially implemented in the game's code, which means she was almost done. But then Savin rejected Einen's implementation at the last moment just to metaphorically kick Will in the balls.
Same with Will's TiTS projects, they constantly kept pushing his stuff back in the priority list, never letting it get implemented. For fuck's sake, Rooh's (and Bianca's too) expansion doc was sititng there 90% complete for years, but was never greenlighted.

 

[Jbuster]

They've been trying hard for years now to pivot to her not being the antagonist, and shift that aspect onto Tolus instead. But that A) Doesn't work because of what she is. B) Doesn't work because who gives a shit about Tolus? He doesn't even have any sex related scenes in the porn game. C) Doesn't work because Tolus isn't there at all the major plot events. D) Looks as memorable as the level 1 fodder he was originally introduced as.

So in the end they've watered down Kas to make it more acceptable for people to go the romance route with her, and offloaded all her edge on a non-entity what really shouldn't have lasted past the tutorial.

They do so much to turn that bald freak into the ultimate evil and possible demon god or whatever except making him look better than your classic roblox/minecraft discord mod. His background allies are lame too, you don't even get to fuck that mouse boi nor the nameless blade, bitch self deletes and I'm like, why?, what's so sacred about his inner circle of waifus that I, the player, don't get to play with them?

We gonna get in a couple of years, maybe, another chance to corner him in that fortress full of demon only for him to vanish at last second, once again playing us like fools as the mastermind he is. It's so tiring

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My boy did nothing wrong. Just trying to get Unlimited power.
Also Agni a shit. Worst harpy.

Bro might have noble goals but he unleashed this monster upon earth, that can never be forgiven

Except Savin was constantly rejecting Will's submissions under the excuse of "insufficient quality".
Just like with Einen, who was already partially implemented in the game's code, which means she was almost done. But then Savin rejected Einen's implementation at the last moment just to metaphorically kick Will in the balls.
Same with Will's TiTS projects, they constantly kept pushing his stuff back in the priority list, never letting it get implemented. For fuck's sake, Rooh's (and Bianca's too) expansion doc was sititng there 90% complete for years, but was never greenlighted.

Toe the line and write the threesome, toe the line and write the futa expansion, toe the line and finish this commission with more threesomes and futadom, forget about anything else

Bro had no chance

 

[K1ng_C00mer]

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Okay, in my defense I forgot about that stuff when Will was kicked out. To busy remembering that shitty novella Tobs made about Kinu and Kiyoko. There's been so much fucking twists and turns with Savin and friends we need a dedicated Google doc lorebook. Or a three hour long YouTube deep dive a la Fredrick Knudesen's Down the Rabbit Hole.

I mean, there's probably a mountain of other stuff regarding CoC I and TiTs that's also forgotten. I can only remember Marble used to off herself if you get cured of her milk and you'd find her rotting corpse in a horrendously graphic scene. That sharkfuta who I forgot the name of's creator threw a shitfit over people wanting to dedick her. Helspawn.

From TiTs there's the Myr situation we touched upon. Doctor Badger. Riya. Old Nykke. Embry. Flurry, the other Frostwyrm you run into. That's all I can recall off the top of my head.

Also, I looked up Flurry's wiki page and he's apparently the Frostwrym who fucks Steph Irson? What? Also found this gem:

Questions within the community have been raised as to whether or not Flurry's content counts as NTR, cheating, etc. B, his writer, has attempted to make it abundantly clear both in the writing, discord, and the forums that Flurry and Frosty do not engage in sex with each other without Steele. Steele is not sharing Frosty with anybody, Steele and Frosty are sharing Flurry. Not only is it explained that if nothing else, Flurry is allowed into the clutch due to the species' endangerment, the entirety of Flurry's content is opt in. If Steele never brings up a second Frostwyrm to Frosty, they will never encounter him. Even if they do broach the topic with Frosty, Steele still has to initiate the encounter.

What a fucking cope from B, lol. I remember when he was hyping the expansion up on /cocg/ and everyone was telling him it sounded like a bad idea and he just kept insisting that the focus would be on >You, the player. That was when I knew we were in for it with Berwyn, becuase he just refused to accept no one was into his super cool threesome idea.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

What a fucking cope from B, lol. I remember when he was hyping the expansion up on /cocg/ and everyone was telling him it sounded like a bad idea and he just kept insisting that the focus would be on >You, the player. That was when I knew we were in for it with Berwyn, becuase he just refused to accept no one was into his super cool threesome idea.

So Skow likes combining lesbians with ntr, Wsan likes equine adjacent monster girls, Tobs likes imperial japan and salt licks, and B likes threesomes and not listening to people pointing out the obvious.

That quoted statement sounds like damage control being performed cause B fucked up and either won't commit to ntr or genuinely can't fathom why something would be seen that way. Bet that statement was prepared right after the greenlight was given too.

I can only remember Marble used to off herself if you get cured of her milk and you'd find her rotting corpse in a horrendously graphic scene.

Jesus fucking christ. That must have been old because I only remember the Izma and helspawn controversies. I'm scared what a drama lore bible might contain. Maybe the villain of the first game was trying to save us from Whitney and that fucked up farm.

We gonna get in a couple of years, maybe, another chance to corner him in that fortress full of demon only for him to vanish at last second, once again playing us like fools as the mastermind he is. It's so tiring

He's gonna be the final boss of the mountain questline and revealed to be the mastermind and Kas is gonna do something "heroic" to save us. And maybe, if Savin can stomach it, nerf Kas since he made her too broken to function as a legitimate final boss. Or not to punish players who don't want his waifu. But I'm confident in that first sentence this time. The more he pushes tatted up Mr Clean, the less effective Kas is. Like why is she here at this point? She stopped connecting the two games after her portal shit in part 1. She doesn't do anything. Even the demons are just a consequence of her lust but don't act any different from the surrounding groups that have a literal rape culture. Olivia was right. Kas is nothing. Oh god I'm agreeing with Tobs.

I feel for William though hope he's doing better. I liked most of his stuff and he gave us one of the three kitsune I like. I hope this sentence doesn't cause some ancient problematic lore about him to pop up and make me look dumb. I can look dumb all on my own.

 

[MoneyMan181]

Jesus fucking christ. That must have been old because I only remember the Izma and helspawn controversies. I'm scared what a drama lore bible might contain. Maybe the villain of the first game was trying to save us from Whitney and that fucked up farm.

I don't believe it was ever in, or if it was it was for a very short time. To quote the wiki:

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Always gets me a little sad because I really like Marble. But yeah I'm kinda glad it's not in because while fucked up shit does happen, I feel like that imagery is just a tad too far. Dick sad indeed.

I see we've brought up Will again and boy oh boy do I have feelings about the whole situation. But to avoid writing an essay I'll just sum it up in a few words:
Fuck Savin for choosing VIV of all characters over Einen(who also got implemented AFTER the deadline so that's not an excuse). Fuck the TiTS team for scrapping all of his projects. But also a smaller fuck you to Will himself for never finishing shit. Words cannot express my disappointment that Leila will never be in TiTS.

 

[procrastinator101]

I see we've brought up Will again and boy oh boy do I have feelings about the whole situation. But to avoid writing an essay I'll just sum it up in a few words:
Fuck Savin for choosing VIV of all characters over Einen(who also got implemented AFTER the deadline so that's not an excuse). Fuck the TiTS team for scrapping all of his projects. But also a smaller fuck you to Will himself for never finishing shit. Words cannot express my disappointment that Leila will never be in TiTS.

Yeah, Will had some solid characters. Our wife Bianca will forever remain unfinished.

 

[Yeppers34]

Yeah, Will had some solid characters. Our wife Bianca will forever remain unfinished.

Which is a damn shame, the scene where she grinds on the PCs dick is probably the most well written scene in the entire game...and we never got to fuck her.

 

[DesSaasu]

Just read about Agni's past and it look like she once had a relationship with another harpy named Luqezta(don't know if she's a futa) and had a daughter together, they were ambushed by bandits that killed them for their feathers. After being revived, Agni find and killed most of the bandits and their leader before dying from her wounds and reviving.

I mean, there's probably a mountain of other stuff regarding CoC I and TiTs that's also forgotten. I can only remember Marble used to off herself if you get cured of her milk and you'd find her rotting corpse in a horrendously graphic scene.

I'm even more surprised when looking through the her Trivia section of the wiki she's 12 years old and is the oldest of the 3 cow girls.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

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Switch Kiyoko n Brienne and you got my list, gudshit. The big cow is a lot more endearing potential than kiyoko, it wasted but its realized more than what we got with Fox wife - you can tell TOBs is a Spice and Wolf fan.

I was rewatched this film recently, underrated asf. Mel Gibson is so undervalued as a director.

Toe the line and write the threesome, toe the line and write the futa expansion, toe the line and finish this commission with more threesomes and futadom, forget about anything else

The In-group demands tribute and you Will comply.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

So Skow likes combining lesbians with ntr, Wsan likes equine adjacent monster girls, Tobs likes imperial japan and salt licks, and B likes threesomes and not listening to people pointing out the obvious.

That quoted statement sounds like damage control being performed cause B fucked up and either won't commit to ntr or genuinely can't fathom why something would be seen that way. Bet that statement was prepared right after the greenlight was given too.

You know how those types are, passive aggressive with lots of excuses loaded and waiting.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Always gets me a little sad because I really like Marble. But yeah I'm kinda glad it's not in because while fucked up shit does happen, I feel like that imagery is just a tad too far. Dick sad indeed.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm reading content made by adults or children masquerading as adults.

 

[namelessdudewithnoname]

Yeah, Will had some solid characters. Our wife Bianca will forever remain unfinished.

Don't remind me...

 

[NODOGAN]

Agni easily has the WORST art for a Harpy in the entire game and I seriously couldn't give LESS OF A SHIT about her (I need the Harpy Matron dudes, I need me that feathery Gilf with crazy huge proportions REAL BAD AND THEY KEEP DELAYING HER GREATNESS!)

 

[Tsubuhaza]

"Your OC is shit"
"No U"
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Big Mami, no!

By the way, what's everyone's rankings when it comes to how hot our companions are?

Well, I'm forced to remove Quin and the two futas/dickgirls/whatever the fuck because it would technically be unfair of me to put them on the bottom of the rank. And unlike Savin, I appreciate fairness. I'd also rather not punish penile characters, not really their fault.

1. Brienne (pretty obvious)
2. Atugia (fine conceptually, the fucking void in terms of things to do)
3. Vivianne (read 2)
4. Kiyoko (fine conceptually, miserably mishandled because Tobs felt he was the Buddy Holly for Savin's Mary Tyler Moore one day)
5. Random Beegirl (She's not as bad as other beegirls get but the repeated "please help me scissor with the lesbian knight" docks her points)
6. Caitapult Ammo (Town whore who claims to be a religious whore, no buys)
7. Agnimitra the Mannequin (She's hilarious when it comes to sex scenes but that's probably not the goal)

If you wanted me to also count characters like Drifa, the weird elf lady that pops up at the Wayfort regularly for sex, Anti-Helia, Kohaku or Clementine, put them somewhere over the random beegirl.

That sharkfuta who I forgot the name of's creator threw a shitfit over people wanting to dedick her.

Seems to be a running gag with futa creators in this "franchise", huh.

He's gonna be the final boss of the mountain questline and revealed to be the mastermind and Kas is gonna do something "heroic" to save us. And maybe, if Savin can stomach it, nerf Kas since he made her too broken to function as a legitimate final boss. Or not to punish players who don't want his waifu. But I'm confident in that first sentence this time. The more he pushes tatted up Mr Clean, the less effective Kas is. Like why is she here at this point? She stopped connecting the two games after her portal shit in part 1. She doesn't do anything. Even the demons are just a consequence of her lust but don't act any different from the surrounding groups that have a literal rape culture. Olivia was right. Kas is nothing. Oh god I'm agreeing with Tobs.

I'll make a donation to the local parish if Savin doesn't deliberately fuck over (in some way or shape) players who don't care for Kashimira by the end of the story.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Agni easily has the WORST art for a Harpy in the entire game and I seriously couldn't give LESS OF A SHIT about her

I really don't like Anonarts's artstyle. Like I can appreciate it from a mechanical standpoint with all the lighting and details and shit but damn if they don't draw everyone in unattractive poses and expressions and just in general weird looking. I recoiled the first time I saw the Kastaur and Evelyn's weird O face image. Also the characters are muscular in a way that implies dehydration to bring out definition but I think that's just me noticing details to be nitpicky.

I'll make a donation to the local parish if Savin doesn't deliberately fuck over (in some way or shape) players who don't care for Kashimira by the end of the story.

Isn't Kas still twice the intended level cap? Plus he gave her a weapon coded to just ignore half of all our damage resistance and gave her a passive damage dealing aura that can't be countered. He's already fucked over anyone who chooses to fight her just by making her mechanically op. Plus she has cutscene power. I think we're looking at another CoC1 situation where it's better to side with the main villain just to avoid a bullshit fight.

You know how those types are, passive aggressive with lots of excuses loaded and waiting.

Unless you bring up the really bad stuff. Then they'll ignore it and let the white knights come defend them.

I don't believe it was ever in, or if it was it was for a very short time. To quote the wiki:

Honestly, even if it never made it in that's still such a weird thing to consider. That and the Marble age drama that happened.

 

[procrastinator101]

You know how those types are, passive aggressive with lots of excuses loaded and waiting.

They're manchildren who never grew past highschool drama. It'd be sad and pathetic, if those tossers weren't raking in and squandering thousands of dollars each month.

 

[Jbuster]

Atugia (fine conceptually, the fucking void in terms of things to do)

Because characters are based in what love they get from their creator/how much sway said creators have with Savco, the chances for a fan favorite/good concept to reach full potential are pretty low. Poor management will always keep Atugia and Viviane as pretty cool concepts with a lot of sex appeal that do nothing and are nothing, and poor management will keep the game mascot as this one dimensional caricature as any kind of conflict within her and her worldview, Savco's original vision, is a big no

Could community writers change it?, maybe. I have no doubts there are plenty of creative people with good ideas about how to add this or that detail in order to fill the massive void some companions are, but that still requires that management doesn't fuck it up and that's where my faith dies

I really don't like Anonarts's artstyle. Like I can appreciate it from a mechanical standpoint with all the lighting and details and shit but damn if they don't draw everyone in unattractive poses and expressions and just in general weird looking. I recoiled the first time I saw the Kastaur and Evelyn's weird O face image. Also the characters are muscular in a way that implies dehydration to bring out definition but I think that's just me noticing details to be nitpicky.


Isn't Kas still twice the intended level cap? Plus he gave her a weapon coded to just ignore half of all our damage resistance and gave her a passive damage dealing aura that can't be countered. He's already fucked over anyone who chooses to fight her just by making her mechanically op. Plus she has cutscene power. I think we're looking at another CoC1 situation where it's better to side with the main villain just to avoid a bullshit fight.


Unless you bring up the really bad stuff. Then they'll ignore it and let the white knights come defend them.


Honestly, even if it never made it in that's still such a weird thing to consider. That and the Marble age drama that happened.

BoggedArt's art looks bogged, like, sometimes there's this really notorious and almost artificial facial muscle definition, trully bogged in my opinion

I'm calling it now, that thing the mouse boi stole for Tollus in harvester valley will be the key element in his godhood ascension to evil god Tollus, Kasyrra's powers will be sealed or something, she'll become Velun's true champion due to that and you'll have to fight together and kill this bald guy that genocide wolf mom failed to end

And only then, you'll be given the chance to kill or redeem your new demon waifu which you won't, because now she's good

They're manchildren who never grew past highschool drama. It'd be sad and pathetic, if those tossers weren't raking in and squandering thousands of dollars each month.

They are in all ways of life, Neil Cuckman fooled the world and HBO into thinking he was full of innovative ideas, Avatar 1 and 2 made more money that any other good movie despite being pretty much empty premises with nice visuals and Kojima made gamers play as amazon workers in his never ending quest for being accepted by the movie industry, which shall never happen

Autism and pettiness are the bane devs must endure in the savage, brutal world of western porn games

 

[YouShallNotLol]

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Oh shit. I have just realised that I completely forgot to mention Cait.
Fuck it, her being entirely absent from the list is now canonical representation of my feelings toward her - infinite, merciless disregard.

 

[Titan king]

Because characters are based in what love they get from their creator/how much sway said creators have with Savco, the chances for a fan favorite/good concept to reach full potential are pretty low. Poor management will always keep Atugia and Viviane as pretty cool concepts with a lot of sex appeal that do nothing and are nothing, and poor management will keep the game mascot as this one dimensional caricature as any kind of conflict within her and her worldview, Savco's original vision, is a big no

Could community writers change it?, maybe. I have no doubts there are plenty of creative people with good ideas about how to add this or that detail in order to fill the massive void some companions are, but that still requires that management doesn't fuck it up and that's where my faith dies


BoggedArt's art looks bogged, like, sometimes there's this really notorious and almost artificial facial muscle definition, trully bogged in my opinion

I'm calling it now, that thing the mouse boi stole for Tollus in harvester valley will be the key element in his godhood ascension to evil god Tollus, Kasyrra's powers will be sealed or something, she'll become Velun's true champion due to that and you'll have to fight together and kill this bald guy that genocide wolf mom failed to end

And only then, you'll be given the chance to kill or redeem your new demon waifu which you won't, because now she's good


They are in all ways of life, Neil Cuckman fooled the world and HBO into thinking he was full of innovative ideas, Avatar 1 and 2 made more money that any other good movie despite being pretty much empty premises with nice visuals and Kojima made gamers play as amazon workers in his never ending quest for being accepted by the movie industry, which shall never happen

Autism and pettiness are the bane devs must endure in the savage, brutal world of western porn games

Man fuck Kassyra I'm not interested in that bitch no matter how much the game try to push her onto us and want us to feel sorry for her, she's an evil bitch, I just know they will make us look like a bad person if we get the chance to kill her